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::::::::You guys are kind of saying the same thing that I said at the start. Though I really don't know why.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|Lilkay]][[User Talk:lilkaykaygal|kaygal]] 9:17, 5 August 2010 (UTC) | ::::::::You guys are kind of saying the same thing that I said at the start. Though I really don't know why.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|Lilkay]][[User Talk:lilkaykaygal|kaygal]] 9:17, 5 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::Dent and Iris I support splitting between games and anime. Dammit, we get rid of Brock only to have Brock 2. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:34, 9 August 2010 (UTC) | :::::::::Dent and Iris I support splitting between games and anime. Dammit, we get rid of Brock only to have Brock 2. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:34, 9 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Gym Leader == | == Gym Leader == |
Revision as of 17:21, 12 August 2010
Move to Dento (anime) = bad idea.
The only reason why Brock and Misty are in separate articles are purely practical - because their old articles were too long. Splitting between his game and anime self seems very irrelevant. While it is implied that he'll play a more prominent role in the anime than in the games, it still doesn't mean that we should consider him as separate characters. He is not a main character in the games, so he doesn't fall to the same category as Red/Ash/Red, Blue/Gary/Blue, Ethan/Jimmy/Gold or Barry/Barry/Pearl. He's a bit what Wally was in PokeSpe - a game character with expanded role. But we don't have two articles on Wally and we shouldn't have. Nor we should for Dent. He's just as the same character as anime Surge or game Surge (or whatever other character from the games who was adapted to the anime [sometimes with big differences between canons]). --Maxim 10:28, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Move to Dento (anime) not sure
I'm not supposably sure whether we move Dento to Dento (anime) because I'm just saying that I think you may need to wait till the future. If there's to much info for the anime or the game, we just move it when we find a whole stack of information.--Lilkaykaygal 10:38, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's what I said earlier. I think that split will be needed only if the article about him covering all canons ('cause he's probably gonna appear in PokeSpe and other BW-related mangas as well, y'know) ends up being longer than expected. But I don't really expect to be longer than average article covering a Gym Leader or other important game characters. For all we know, he doesn't have to be a protagonist at all. He may be a major recurring character, simply. When Paul was first revealed to be in DP anime, he was also shown alongside Ash and Dawn so everyone was saying "Brock replacement", which turned out not to be the case. And if he is just a recurring character, then take Professor Oak as an example. He also has a very prominent role in the anime (even more than in the games, where he's still important), yet we don't have his article split between his game, anime and manga self. --Maxim 10:47, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- The difference with Dento and, sya, Professor Oak is that Oak may be prominent but he's not a major character like Dento is. Brock was confirmed in the blog of osmeone working on the anime, so unlike with Paul there is real reason to believe Dento is Brock's replacement.
- tl;dr, I support the split. Reign 17:42, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I think we should wait until we have more information and keep the shared article for now. If his article gets too long, we can do something like Brock vs. Brock (anime). But until then, we can easily just keep it as one article, especially now, when we know so little. He's clearly meant to be (initially, at least) the same person (like Brock vs. anime Brock) as opposed to Red vs. Ash, which were clearly distinct characters from the get-go. --ZestyCactus 18:35, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I don't see why it should be moved to that. There's no Ash Ketchum (anime) or Tracey Sketchit (anime) or Max (anime)*. The (anime) subtext should only be used for characters that also appear in the games. As far at it is known, Dento is not in the games. Waiting is the best thing to do. I would like to hear tc26's reason for putting up the tag in the first place. --ケンジのガール 19:49, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, he is in the games. A Sugimori art of him has been leaked. I concur with Zesty nonetheless. Main hero or not, I don't see why should he be treated separately. The reasons why we split Misty and Brock are purely practical, those are still the same characters actually. --Maxim 19:55, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I don't see why it should be moved to that. There's no Ash Ketchum (anime) or Tracey Sketchit (anime) or Max (anime)*. The (anime) subtext should only be used for characters that also appear in the games. As far at it is known, Dento is not in the games. Waiting is the best thing to do. I would like to hear tc26's reason for putting up the tag in the first place. --ケンジのガール 19:49, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, maybe we should find out what role in the games he serves first. If his game character isn't major or contains a plethora of information needing transcribing, I suggest keeping them a single article. (And someone replace his anime art with his Sugimori art, if that's the case; games trump anime.) Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 21:46, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- This entire discussion is stupid. We have no real details. Until we know more, this stays. If we'll need to split it, we'll split it. --electAbuzzzz 22:26, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- As Head of CharacterDex, my opinion is that he stays as Dento until more information is released. Also, considering that his artwork was released with Aloe's, it should be considered that he could be a Gym Leader. --Psyライダー☮ 22:29, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- This entire discussion is stupid. We have no real details. Until we know more, this stays. If we'll need to split it, we'll split it. --electAbuzzzz 22:26, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
- I think we should wait until we have more information and keep the shared article for now. If his article gets too long, we can do something like Brock vs. Brock (anime). But until then, we can easily just keep it as one article, especially now, when we know so little. He's clearly meant to be (initially, at least) the same person (like Brock vs. anime Brock) as opposed to Red vs. Ash, which were clearly distinct characters from the get-go. --ZestyCactus 18:35, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Gym Leader
Could anyone able to edit the article add that Dento is the first gym leader in the games? Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 12:59, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
- Is it notable that Dento is Brock's replacement and they are both the first gym leader of a region?--Burgundy 19:23, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Edit request
"Pokemon Sunday". CuboneKing 20:10, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Image
Since he's a game character as well, shouldn't we have his Sugimori art in the infobox? --Gοldenpelt 20:44, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Indeed he should. --Dermodio 08:46, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
- Indeed he does already. Check with the page before you reply to a discussion. Thanks. —darklordtrom 08:55, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Edit request (2)
Could someone add this to the "Category:Black and White Characters" page, since he's been confirmed as a Gym Leader in these games. Thank you for your time...Samjohn95 13:41, 12 August 2010 (UTC)