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:I believe it is due to the species name is Sea'''king''', but that species can also be female. - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>'''</span>]] - 22:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC) | :I believe it is due to the species name is Sea'''king''', but that species can also be female. - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>'''</span>]] - 22:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
::People steryotype. Just look at Seaking ad you might get it[[User:DCM|<font color="#FF1111">DCM</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:DCM|((<font color="#DAA520">曲奇饼妖怪</font>]]</sub><sub>[[Special:Contributions/DCM|<font color="#C0C0C0">Spy on My Edits</font>))]]</sub> | ::People steryotype. Just look at Seaking ad you might get it[[User:DCM|<font color="#FF1111">DCM</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:DCM|((<font color="#DAA520">曲奇饼妖怪</font>]]</sub><sub>[[Special:Contributions/DCM|<font color="#C0C0C0">Spy on My Edits</font>))]]</sub> | ||
:::I still don't see the homosexuality of Seaking. [[User:Telme|Telme]] 23: | :::I still don't see the homosexuality of Seaking, DCM. [[User:Telme|Telme]] 23:54, 22 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::: * the frills*[[User:DCM|<font color="#FF1111">DCM</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:DCM|((<font color="#DAA520">曲奇饼妖怪</font>]]</sub><sub>[[Special:Contributions/DCM|<font color="#C0C0C0">Spy on My Edits</font>))]]</sub> | |||
::::: I dont know. I've made this: , if you want to use it [[User:Kalot|K3000]] 20:26, 30 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
So were is the user is a lesbian tag? [[User:Random Chaos|Random Chaos]] 21:27, 4 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:I thought homosexual meant both gay and lesbian. Just because the template's name has one of them doesn't mean the template itself is like that.. - [[User talk:SpontaneousCombusken|<sub><span style="background:#D55208"><span style="color:#FFFFFD">s.</span></span></sub>]][[User:SpontaneousCombusken|<span style="background:#F4DA8E"><span style="color:#E57E4C;">'''Combusken'''</span></span>]] 21:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
::It does mean both. And gay does too, technically. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 21:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
So we are basing the icon on the fact that this Pokémon supposedly plays into stereotypes ...and no one else find this offensive? Besides, being transsexual or transvestite is not at all the same as being gay. If we were going for trans, {{p|Azurill}}→{{p|Marill}}is more fitting... --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 02:27, 28 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Suggesting a change == | |||
I heard that penguins are known to have homosexual relationships. Maybe it should be changed to Piplup, Prinplup, or Empoleon. Having a Seaking due to its frills seems ridiculous to me. But I guess the user could just change the pictures on their pages. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:58, 9 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Do do do. Techinically all animals are capable of having homosexual relationships, eg my neighbors dog is "gay", but thats seems kinda obscure. if were gonna make a gay tag might as well make it something predictable, everyone would know.[[User:DCM|<font color="#FF1111">DCM</font>]]<sub>[[User talk:DCM|((<font color="#DAA520">曲奇饼妖怪</font>]]</sub><sub>[[Special:Contributions/DCM|<font color="#C0C0C0">Spy on My Edits</font>))]]</sub> 00:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
::From what I have learned, {{tt|Salamanders|pretty sure it was this...can't remember for sure}} are all 100% female, and they release their eggs by having sex with one another, even though they are both female. The eggs are already fertilized in their bodies, they just need to have lesbian sex in order to get them out of their bodies. So, what salamander Pokémon are there? ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 00:41, 10 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::{{p|Charmander}}? But it's a Pokémon people like so much, I don't think a lot of people would like it associated with homosexuality.. - <small>'''[[User talk:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C59CBD;">esp</span>]][[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|<span style="color:#AC7BAC;">eon</span>]]</small>[[User:EspeonA|<span style="color:#C52052;">A</span>]]''' 00:44, 10 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::::It's only one species of lizard, that's all I can remember. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 00:46, 10 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::::You are thinking of whiptailed lizareds [[User:Random Chaos|Random Chaos]] 15:36, 26 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::Being a single-sexed species is not the same as being gay, since those species have {{tt|no other physically possible sexuality|not counting asexuality}}. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 02:27, 28 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
:I agree with the OP, while [[wp:Homosexual behavior in animals|many species of animals can have homosexual tendencies]],( including {{p|Wingull|gulls}}, {{p|Psyduck|ducks}}, {{p|Girafarig|giraffes}}, and {{p|Luxray|lions}}, among others) penguins in particular are some of the best publicized, because they tend to couple for long periods of time( though {{p|Donphan|elephants}} may too), not just during mating behavior, and especially because several gay penguin couples in captivity have been given eggs and successfully hatched them and raised chicks, often being praised by zookeepers as excellent parents. One couple even had [[wp:And Tango Makes Three|a children’s book]] about them and their chick. I definitely think the best icon would be a penguin Pokémon - I am tentatively changing it – '''''we can definitely decide on something else later''''', but let’s get Seaking out of there, {{tt|not to mention those horrid colors|I realize my new color choices are a bit stereotypical, but at least they look nice... suggestions?}}. Or maybe two {{p|Empoleon}} with a {{p|Piplup}} hatching from an [[egg]] at their feet, if anyone can be bothered – Kalot? | |||
:I also tried to make the text pride colors, but it didn’t quite work out: | |||
:{|class="userboxitem" style="border: 1px solid #998; background: pink; {{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" | |||
!style="background: purple; {{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}"|[[Image:{{{1|394.png}}}|60px]] | |||
|style="color: red;"|Th | |||
|style="color: yellow;"|i | |||
|style="color: orange;"|s u | |||
|style="color: green;"|se | |||
|style="color: blue;"|r i | |||
|style="color: purple;"|s | |||
|style="color: black;"|[[wp:Homosexuality|homosexual]]. | |||
|} ...thoughts? By the way, if the admins choose to disregard this whole discussion and revert it against reason, can I use variables to change the pic and colors on my own page? How would that be formatted? --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 02:27, 28 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
::Changes should be discussed '''before''' being done. I've changed the defaults back to the original, but the colors and image can all be changed. Directions are on the template page. - [[User:Kogoro|<span style="color:#DA70D6;">'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>'''</span>]] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|<span style="color:#FFB6C1;">'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>'''</span>]] - 03:10, 28 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::...I thought that all the numerous comments on the page here constitute a discussion? We may not have reached an agreement yet on how it should look, but there seems to be a pretty clear agreement that the Seaking, at least, is inappropriate. Thanks for the additional variables and instructions, though. Should add them to the Bi and Trans templates too... --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 03:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
== "User Gay" versus "User Homosexual" == | |||
Just bringing this up, but we have "User Asexual" and "User Heterosexual", which makes this one the odd puppy of the three. Had "User Heterosexual" been "User Straight", maybe not so much, so can we change one? Preferably this one in case anyone bothers to add the remaining classifications of sexual orientation? [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 16:01, 9 July 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Customizable text == | |||
Can the text on this maybe be customizable? I'm not entirely comfortable with the word "homosexual" due to its clinical history. I'd much rather be able to say "gay", or specify "lesbian". [[User:GolgothasTerror|golgothasTerror]] ([[User talk:GolgothasTerror|talk]]) 15:50, 24 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
:Additional customization has been added. --[[User:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#95EB5C">Carmen<small>★</small></span>]] <small>''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#FEBEE8">(Talk |</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|<span style="color:#A6DAFC">contribs)</span>]]''</small> 16:25, 24 September 2016 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks! [[User:GolgothasTerror|golgothasTerror]] ([[User talk:GolgothasTerror|talk]]) 20:27, 24 September 2016 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 22:17, 24 September 2016
Why does Seaking represent Homosexuality?
Just wondering. Telme 22:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- I believe it is due to the species name is Seaking, but that species can also be female. - Kogoro | Talk to me - 22:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- People steryotype. Just look at Seaking ad you might get itDCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))
- I still don't see the homosexuality of Seaking, DCM. Telme 23:54, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- * the frills*DCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))
- I dont know. I've made this: , if you want to use it K3000 20:26, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
- * the frills*DCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))
- I still don't see the homosexuality of Seaking, DCM. Telme 23:54, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- People steryotype. Just look at Seaking ad you might get itDCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits))
So were is the user is a lesbian tag? Random Chaos 21:27, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- I thought homosexual meant both gay and lesbian. Just because the template's name has one of them doesn't mean the template itself is like that.. - s.Combusken 21:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
- It does mean both. And gay does too, technically. The Dark Fiddler - Nos hablamos? 21:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
So we are basing the icon on the fact that this Pokémon supposedly plays into stereotypes ...and no one else find this offensive? Besides, being transsexual or transvestite is not at all the same as being gay. If we were going for trans, Azurill→Marillis more fitting... --LaprasBoi 02:27, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Suggesting a change
I heard that penguins are known to have homosexual relationships. Maybe it should be changed to Piplup, Prinplup, or Empoleon. Having a Seaking due to its frills seems ridiculous to me. But I guess the user could just change the pictures on their pages. --ケンジのガール 23:58, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
- Do do do. Techinically all animals are capable of having homosexual relationships, eg my neighbors dog is "gay", but thats seems kinda obscure. if were gonna make a gay tag might as well make it something predictable, everyone would know.DCM((曲奇饼妖怪Spy on My Edits)) 00:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- From what I have learned, Salamanders are all 100% female, and they release their eggs by having sex with one another, even though they are both female. The eggs are already fertilized in their bodies, they just need to have lesbian sex in order to get them out of their bodies. So, what salamander Pokémon are there? MaverickNate 00:41, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- Charmander? But it's a Pokémon people like so much, I don't think a lot of people would like it associated with homosexuality.. - espeonA 00:44, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- It's only one species of lizard, that's all I can remember. The Dark Fiddler - Nos hablamos? 00:46, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- Charmander? But it's a Pokémon people like so much, I don't think a lot of people would like it associated with homosexuality.. - espeonA 00:44, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- From what I have learned, Salamanders are all 100% female, and they release their eggs by having sex with one another, even though they are both female. The eggs are already fertilized in their bodies, they just need to have lesbian sex in order to get them out of their bodies. So, what salamander Pokémon are there? MaverickNate 00:41, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- You are thinking of whiptailed lizareds Random Chaos 15:36, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
- Being a single-sexed species is not the same as being gay, since those species have no other physically possible sexuality. --LaprasBoi 02:27, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with the OP, while many species of animals can have homosexual tendencies,( including gulls, ducks, giraffes, and lions, among others) penguins in particular are some of the best publicized, because they tend to couple for long periods of time( though elephants may too), not just during mating behavior, and especially because several gay penguin couples in captivity have been given eggs and successfully hatched them and raised chicks, often being praised by zookeepers as excellent parents. One couple even had a children’s book about them and their chick. I definitely think the best icon would be a penguin Pokémon - I am tentatively changing it – we can definitely decide on something else later, but let’s get Seaking out of there, not to mention those horrid colors. Or maybe two Empoleon with a Piplup hatching from an egg at their feet, if anyone can be bothered – Kalot?
- I also tried to make the text pride colors, but it didn’t quite work out:
Th i s u se r i s homosexual.
- Changes should be discussed before being done. I've changed the defaults back to the original, but the colors and image can all be changed. Directions are on the template page. - Kogoro | Talk to me - 03:10, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- ...I thought that all the numerous comments on the page here constitute a discussion? We may not have reached an agreement yet on how it should look, but there seems to be a pretty clear agreement that the Seaking, at least, is inappropriate. Thanks for the additional variables and instructions, though. Should add them to the Bi and Trans templates too... --LaprasBoi 03:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
- Changes should be discussed before being done. I've changed the defaults back to the original, but the colors and image can all be changed. Directions are on the template page. - Kogoro | Talk to me - 03:10, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
"User Gay" versus "User Homosexual"
Just bringing this up, but we have "User Asexual" and "User Heterosexual", which makes this one the odd puppy of the three. Had "User Heterosexual" been "User Straight", maybe not so much, so can we change one? Preferably this one in case anyone bothers to add the remaining classifications of sexual orientation? Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 16:01, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
Customizable text
Can the text on this maybe be customizable? I'm not entirely comfortable with the word "homosexual" due to its clinical history. I'd much rather be able to say "gay", or specify "lesbian". golgothasTerror (talk) 15:50, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
- Additional customization has been added. --Carmen★ (Talk | contribs) 16:25, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks! golgothasTerror (talk) 20:27, 24 September 2016 (UTC)