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So in the origin section it talks about Kingambit looking like it is sitting on a throne, but rather than a throne isn't supposed to be in reference to the folding stools that Daimyo and the like are often depicted sitting on in war camps. I don't know if they have a specific name, but they seem to be common in Sengoku era historical series. Given the look of Kingambit's armour and pose, this seems a lot more likely than a throne.
So in the origin section it talks about Kingambit looking like it is sitting on a throne, but rather than a throne isn't supposed to be in reference to the folding stools that Daimyo and the like are often depicted sitting on in war camps. I don't know if they have a specific name, but they seem to be common in Sengoku era historical series. Given the look of Kingambit's armour and pose, this seems a lot more likely than a throne.
E.g https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/251568329166299396/
E.g https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/251568329166299396/
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/416090453081986076/
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/416090453081986076/ [[User:MonarchOfRed|MonarchOfRed]] ([[User talk:MonarchOfRed|talk]]) 16:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
:Seems possible, but idk if it has like, a name? Or at least a name that doesn't just literally translate to "regular folding stool". FWIW i still think a throne works given it also sort of acts like an emperor (plus, not that English names of Pokémon inform their designs, but i mean, '''King'''ambit?). [[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 07:03, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
:Seems possible, but idk if it has like, a name? Or at least a name that doesn't just literally translate to "regular folding stool". FWIW i still think a throne works given it also sort of acts like an emperor (plus, not that English names of Pokémon inform their designs, but i mean, '''King'''ambit?). [[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 07:03, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
::I think the King in its names is just to keep in the chess theme of Pawniard and Bisharp, which looking at their Japanese names doesn't seem to be a thing at all for Bisharp and Kingambit, only Pawniard has a reference to Shogi. [[User:MonarchOfRed|MonarchOfRed]] ([[User talk:MonarchOfRed|talk]]) 16:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

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Kingambit's evolution

This discovery was made by A Dusky Forest and JP on the Bulbagarden Discord: Bisharp to Kingambit evo requires your Bisharp to defeat three Bisharp that are holding a Leader's Crest. It is not "defeat Bisharp while your Bisharp holds a Leader's Crest" (it has to be the enemy Bisharp holding it), nor is it "defeat Bisharp leading a pack of Pawniard", although those usually spawn holding a Leader's Crest, so i can see where the confusion came from.

The following are copied from A Dusky Forest's Discord posts:

  1. Thief-stolen items from wild Pokémon go directly into the bag after battle? How long has this been a thing?
  2. Stealing a wild Bisharp's Leader's Crest using Thief before defeating it makes it ineligible to count toward my Bisharp's evolution requirement.
  3. Capturing a Leader's Crest Bisharp does not count toward the requirement either.
  4. Leveling up from the same fight where I defeat the third Crest-holding Bisharp will immediately trigger the evolution.
  5. Using Switcheroo to give the Crest to a wild Bisharp that didn't generate with one, and then defeating it, counts toward the requirement.
  6. The KO only counts if your Bisharp deals the finishing blow.

JP confirmed point #5 (i copied their Discord post too):

And yeah I found 3 Bisharp that spawned alone without a pack, gave them all Leader's Crest through switcheroo and then defeated them with my Bisharp
After defeating them I levelled up the Bisharp and it evolved

I took the liberty of reposting these Discord posts here for archival purposes; and so other editors may integrate these info onto the relevant pages. Also note that these are tests done on wild Bisharp. I've asked if NPC-owned Bisharp given the Crest counts, i'll update this post when new info is available. (Player-owned Bisharp don't seem to count because Link Battles always reset everything afterward.)

Anzasquiddles (talk) 10:32, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Kingambit's 'throne'

So in the origin section it talks about Kingambit looking like it is sitting on a throne, but rather than a throne isn't supposed to be in reference to the folding stools that Daimyo and the like are often depicted sitting on in war camps. I don't know if they have a specific name, but they seem to be common in Sengoku era historical series. Given the look of Kingambit's armour and pose, this seems a lot more likely than a throne. E.g https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/251568329166299396/ https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/416090453081986076/ MonarchOfRed (talk) 16:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Seems possible, but idk if it has like, a name? Or at least a name that doesn't just literally translate to "regular folding stool". FWIW i still think a throne works given it also sort of acts like an emperor (plus, not that English names of Pokémon inform their designs, but i mean, Kingambit?). Anzasquiddles (talk) 07:03, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
I think the King in its names is just to keep in the chess theme of Pawniard and Bisharp, which looking at their Japanese names doesn't seem to be a thing at all for Bisharp and Kingambit, only Pawniard has a reference to Shogi. MonarchOfRed (talk) 16:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC)