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==Mew Glitch== | ==Mew Glitch== | ||
It says that the Mew Glitch was removed, but I own the game and I was able to use the glitch | It says that the Mew Glitch was removed, but I own the game and I was able to use the glitch [[User:mewrox99]] | ||
:I haven't played the Japanese Blue, but since the games released as Red and Blue outside of Japan were modified versions of the Japanese Blue (more or less the only differences being that they have the available Pokémon from Red and Green instead of the Japanese Blue) and have the Mew Glitch (hell, even Yellow has it and it was the last Gen I game), I don't see why it wouldn't have it. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 19:12, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Game title == | == Game title == | ||
How about just having this article be titled "Pocket Monsters Blue"? -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 01:11, 20 May 2007 (UTC) | How about just having this article be titled "Pocket Monsters Blue"? -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 01:11, 20 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Well, it's better known as the Japanese version of Pokémon Blue, just like we don't have Red/Green as Pocket Monsters Red and Green. I'd suggest maybe a redirect, but not moving the page... --'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 04:51, 20 May 2007 (UTC) | :Well, it's better known as the Japanese version of Pokémon Blue, just like we don't have Red/Green as Pocket Monsters Red and Green. I'd suggest maybe a redirect, but not moving the page... --'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">T</span>]][[wp:Echidna|<span style="color:#FF0000;">E</span><span style="color:#0000FF;">chidna</span>]]''' 04:51, 20 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
::I went ahead and created redirects for Red, Green, and the Japanese Blue from titles with Pocket Monsters in them. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 19:16, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Mew, etc. == | == Mew, etc. == | ||
I'm probably wrong, but didn't the promotion in this version <i>actually</i> get the player a Mew? Also, according to the late Encyclopedia Pokémonica, Hiroshi is the default name for the Rival, rather than Shigeru. Can anyone confirm that? ~Kumori Satosuke | I'm probably wrong, but didn't the promotion in this version <i>actually</i> get the player a Mew? Also, according to the late Encyclopedia Pokémonica, Hiroshi is the default name for the Rival, rather than Shigeru. Can anyone confirm that? ~Kumori Satosuke | ||
:I can confirm the Hiroshi name, yeah, if anyone still cares.[[User:Adamant|Adamant]] 16:19, 8 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
::If by promotion you mean diploma, no, it didn't. All Pokémon games, Japanese or otherwise, have a diploma that does absolutely nothing but give you bragging rights. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 19:08, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
== It went and evolved == | == It went and evolved == | ||
"It went and evolved" does make sense for Poliwhirl. Just because it doesn't evolve through trading doesn't mean he couldn't have evolved it... should this perhaps be corrected? (That said, I do remember the whole Raichu thing and being really frustrated that I couldn't evolve it) | "It went and evolved" does make sense for Poliwhirl. Just because it doesn't evolve through trading doesn't mean he couldn't have evolved it... should this perhaps be corrected? (That said, I do remember the whole Raichu thing and being really frustrated that I couldn't evolve it) | ||
:People do generally think of the Raichu when this is brought up, yes. The original trade in Blue version was a Kadabra, which obviously evolves on trade. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 23:29, 9 October 2008 (UTC) | :People do generally think of the Raichu when this is brought up, yes. The original trade in Blue version was a Kadabra, which obviously evolves on trade. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 23:29, 9 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
==Different Catch Rates== | |||
If the catch rates are different, then what are they? Are the different ones the ones we know today, or are these totally different? | |||
:I'm pretty sure it's referring to being different from {{game|Red and Green|s}}. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 19:10, 3 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
::Blue doesn't even appear to have different catch rates (in other words, they're the same as in any other game). I took a quick look at the Red, Green, and Blue ROMs with a hex editor, and the catch rates of all Pokémon were the same in each game. I also compared the ROMs to [[List of Pokémon by catch rate|this list]], and the only difference was [[Raticate (Pokémon)|Raticate]], which is 90 in all three ROMs I looked at, though according to its page, it changed to 127 in [[Generation III]], not [[Blue]]. So in essence, nothing changed in Blue. [[User:Blaziken257|Blaziken257]] 06:53, 16 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Public Release? == | |||
According to someone commenting on one of my YouTube videos, this game was rereleased on 10/10/1999. If true, shouldn't this information be added to the page? [[User:Teradyne|Teradyne]] 03:28, 19 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Actual data > some random person commenting on your youtube video.--[[User:RexRacer|'''<font color="#E7CE6B">Rex</font>]][[User talk:RexRacer|<font color="#42528C ">Racer</font>''']] 03:49, 19 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Japanese vs English Names == | |||
Considering this article is for a Japanese game, shouldn't it use the Japanese names instead of the English ones? (Gym leaders, Prof. Oak, Pokémon, etc). This page and the [[Pokémon Red and Green Versions]] pages have been changed to English but in my opinion they should use the Japanese names of characters and link to English pages for clarification since the Japanese games would refer to the Pokémon in Japanese. [[User:Xxcom9a|Xxcom9a]] 22:51, 19 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Trade? == | |||
There is a list of Pokémon that can only be obtained by trading from Red/Green on this page, but there are a whole bunch of Pokémon that have trade listed as their location that aren't on here (Tentacool, Oddish, Magikarp, Pikachu, Ghastly to name a few). Why are these pages all so different? [[User:Frenchhorn|Frenchhorn]] 20:50, 18 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
:They are in the games but no-one's got round to adding the location to the availability template yet. The only site I know that has the Pokemon locations from this game is Serebii. We also don't have the Japanese Blue added to the catch template, I've added it [[User talk:Vuvuzela2010/Template:Catch/entry1|here]], but it hasnt been approved yet. <small><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span>[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#007FFF; background-color:white">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span><span style="color:white; background-color:#007FFF">'''X'''</span></small> 21:06, 18 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
== The title of the page should stay the same. == | |||
It has been suggested that the title of this article be renamed "Pokémon Blue (Japanese)." I'm okay with the suggestion, but even though other territories don't use the word "version," North America does, so we should refer to it by its full North American name. Thank you. | |||
If the word "version" seems out of place in this instance, I suggest renaming the page to "Pocket Monsters Blue." [[User:Crunchdog29|Crunchdog29]] ([[User talk:Crunchdog29|talk]]) 23:20, 25 September 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Missing == | |||
Can the locations of pokemon in Japanese Blue be added to the respective articles? {{unsigned|RubyLeafGreenCrystal}} | |||
:I actually attempted this the other day, but I couldn't figure out how to add a column to the encounter charts specifically for Blue. It wouldn't even be that hard to add Blue's encounter data, since the Japanese pages for routes, etc. are just about as thorough as our pages, albeit using fractions for encounter odds rather than percentage. If I can figure out that column issue, I'll add Blue's data.--[[User:Knowitall|Knowitall]] ([[User talk:Knowitall|talk]]) 17:21, 3 January 2024 (UTC) | |||
==false== | |||
they can be obtained without trading (with glitches)[[User:Pikachu210|Pikachu210]] ([[User talk:Pikachu210|talk]]) 04:00, 11 December 2018 (UTC) | |||
:Glitches do not count, since it's not legitimate.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EBC600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EBC600">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#D8B600">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D8B600">ire</span>]] 06:09, 11 December 2018 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 17:21, 3 January 2024
Mew Glitch
It says that the Mew Glitch was removed, but I own the game and I was able to use the glitch User:mewrox99
- I haven't played the Japanese Blue, but since the games released as Red and Blue outside of Japan were modified versions of the Japanese Blue (more or less the only differences being that they have the available Pokémon from Red and Green instead of the Japanese Blue) and have the Mew Glitch (hell, even Yellow has it and it was the last Gen I game), I don't see why it wouldn't have it. --Evice 19:12, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Game title
How about just having this article be titled "Pocket Monsters Blue"? -Happy Mask Man 01:11, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- Well, it's better known as the Japanese version of Pokémon Blue, just like we don't have Red/Green as Pocket Monsters Red and Green. I'd suggest maybe a redirect, but not moving the page... --TTEchidna 04:51, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
- I went ahead and created redirects for Red, Green, and the Japanese Blue from titles with Pocket Monsters in them. --Evice 19:16, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Mew, etc.
I'm probably wrong, but didn't the promotion in this version actually get the player a Mew? Also, according to the late Encyclopedia Pokémonica, Hiroshi is the default name for the Rival, rather than Shigeru. Can anyone confirm that? ~Kumori Satosuke
- I can confirm the Hiroshi name, yeah, if anyone still cares.Adamant 16:19, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
- If by promotion you mean diploma, no, it didn't. All Pokémon games, Japanese or otherwise, have a diploma that does absolutely nothing but give you bragging rights. --Evice 19:08, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
It went and evolved
"It went and evolved" does make sense for Poliwhirl. Just because it doesn't evolve through trading doesn't mean he couldn't have evolved it... should this perhaps be corrected? (That said, I do remember the whole Raichu thing and being really frustrated that I couldn't evolve it)
- People do generally think of the Raichu when this is brought up, yes. The original trade in Blue version was a Kadabra, which obviously evolves on trade. IIMarckus 23:29, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Different Catch Rates
If the catch rates are different, then what are they? Are the different ones the ones we know today, or are these totally different?
- I'm pretty sure it's referring to being different from Pokémon Red and Green. --Evice 19:10, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
- Blue doesn't even appear to have different catch rates (in other words, they're the same as in any other game). I took a quick look at the Red, Green, and Blue ROMs with a hex editor, and the catch rates of all Pokémon were the same in each game. I also compared the ROMs to this list, and the only difference was Raticate, which is 90 in all three ROMs I looked at, though according to its page, it changed to 127 in Generation III, not Blue. So in essence, nothing changed in Blue. Blaziken257 06:53, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Public Release?
According to someone commenting on one of my YouTube videos, this game was rereleased on 10/10/1999. If true, shouldn't this information be added to the page? Teradyne 03:28, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
- Actual data > some random person commenting on your youtube video.--RexRacer 03:49, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
Japanese vs English Names
Considering this article is for a Japanese game, shouldn't it use the Japanese names instead of the English ones? (Gym leaders, Prof. Oak, Pokémon, etc). This page and the Pokémon Red and Green Versions pages have been changed to English but in my opinion they should use the Japanese names of characters and link to English pages for clarification since the Japanese games would refer to the Pokémon in Japanese. Xxcom9a 22:51, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Trade?
There is a list of Pokémon that can only be obtained by trading from Red/Green on this page, but there are a whole bunch of Pokémon that have trade listed as their location that aren't on here (Tentacool, Oddish, Magikarp, Pikachu, Ghastly to name a few). Why are these pages all so different? Frenchhorn 20:50, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
- They are in the games but no-one's got round to adding the location to the availability template yet. The only site I know that has the Pokemon locations from this game is Serebii. We also don't have the Japanese Blue added to the catch template, I've added it here, but it hasnt been approved yet. XVuvuzela2010X 21:06, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
The title of the page should stay the same.
It has been suggested that the title of this article be renamed "Pokémon Blue (Japanese)." I'm okay with the suggestion, but even though other territories don't use the word "version," North America does, so we should refer to it by its full North American name. Thank you.
If the word "version" seems out of place in this instance, I suggest renaming the page to "Pocket Monsters Blue." Crunchdog29 (talk) 23:20, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Missing
Can the locations of pokemon in Japanese Blue be added to the respective articles? - unsigned comment from RubyLeafGreenCrystal (talk • contribs)
- I actually attempted this the other day, but I couldn't figure out how to add a column to the encounter charts specifically for Blue. It wouldn't even be that hard to add Blue's encounter data, since the Japanese pages for routes, etc. are just about as thorough as our pages, albeit using fractions for encounter odds rather than percentage. If I can figure out that column issue, I'll add Blue's data.--Knowitall (talk) 17:21, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
false
they can be obtained without trading (with glitches)Pikachu210 (talk) 04:00, 11 December 2018 (UTC)