Talk:Reshiram (Pokémon)

Possible coincidental origin?

(No idea what to title this section) I know that we know almost absolutely nothing on the actual origins of Reshiram and Zekrom, but ever since noticing that Zekrom is in White and Reshiram is in Black, it sorta brought me to mind of the concept of Yin and yang. This is probably just coincidence and means absolutely nothing, but something I decided to bring up nonetheless. Mudkipchan 00:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

That's been on a lot of people's minds since the game names were out. But with the switched legendaries, maybe we can look more into it.--Pokélova! 00:51, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

We have very limited information right now, and I think anything we post now will be speculation at best. —♥ Jello 00:58, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

If you look at a Yin and Yang symbol, you'll see that each color has a dot of the opposite color inside. Puceron 01:41, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

It doesn't take a genius to figure that out.--Pokélova! 02:32, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it´s just a coincidence. I think we will have to wait until the release of the games for further details. D.hgss 08:37, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

I was going to write about it and let TT or Werd write about it on the page. I support you, Mudkipchan!-444Zekrom 05:42, 03 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, considering the pair are the "Black Yin" and "White Yang" Pokémon, I think that this is pretty much confirmed and should be added as their origins. --SnorlaxMonster 06:00, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Dragon

I know that the Daisuke club called them the legendary dragon pokemon, but since we don't have officially published types listed as such, isn't kind of jumping the gun a bit to already list them as dragon types when they quite possibly could have secondary types as well? --Ryuutakeshi 06:10, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

We're a Wiki Ryuu, we list what information we have as of now. At the moment, we know they're Dragon-types, so we'll keep it at that until more info becomes available.--Pokélova! 06:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Was it ever actually said they're Dragon-type? Or just dragons? They could be like Gyarados or Charizard...Reign 07:17, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Prematurely publishing information weakens the credibility of Bulbapedia as a resource. Disinfect 07:26, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, someones got to edit that bit out because WE DO NOT KNOW THERE OFFICIAL TYPING. Why does everyone just assume that they will be Dragon-type because they were described as "Legendary Dragon Pokemon" like a Pokedex entry would state. Where the --- is a mod. --Yusuke SS 20:17, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Reshiram won't be Black exclusive

I do belive that in the obtain section It shouldent say Black olny because we all know after we encounter the mascot we always encounter the mascot of the twin game later on - unsigned comment from Megamaxxor (talk • contribs)

Patterns and traditions aren't always guarantees. We're getting a female professor this time around, so I rest my case. Also, I don't think you could get Groudon in Sapphire and vice versa.--Pokélova! 13:54, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

This is only true for GS/HGSS AFAIK. Like PokeLova said, you can't get Dialga in Pearl and Palkia in Diamond, can you? Or Groudon in Sapphire/Kyogre in Ruby? Nope. At any rate, we aren't adding any information like that to the article unless it's 100% confirmed by a reliable source. --ZestyCactus 14:04, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

That's not true. Charizard can be received in both U.S. Blue and JP Green through starter methods. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 14:08, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

For your kind information, it's obvious that we can get charizard in both versions because it's a starter. Reshiram and Zekrom are not starters + they are legendaries and like previous legendary mascot featured games, they can be obtained in a single game only. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 14:26, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I was just replying to them saying it was only possible in GS and HGSS. I know it is a starter, and that is how that would happen. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 14:31, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh, oopz. My bad. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 14:35, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I am sorry SS id my first pokmon game and befor I got it I asked a friend witch one I should get becasue of the legndarys he that it wouldent matter because I could get both if I worked at it he told thats the wasy it wokred in past games so I thought he ment all but as it turns out he must have ment G/S--Megamaxxor 14:39, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I don't think the article should state either way until it has been confirmed. Although version mascots aren't normally available in the opposite versions, they are in Gold and Silver, so it's not unheard of. T a r o m o n 19:23, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

I second that, we don't know for sure if he's exclusive to Black at this point and to say he is is just as assumptive as to say he isn't.--J.Harkness 20:18, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

I would also like to point out that Suicune while being a legendary mascot for Crystal was also available in Gold, Silver, LeafGreen, FireRed, HeartGold, and SoulSilver, it has appeard far beyond it's own game. EpicShadow 1:28, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Reshiram has to be black exclusive because N captures and uses Reshiram in his team in White, and does the opposite in Black with Zekrom. He is seen flying away on Reshiram/Zekrom at the end of the game.--Dillard70 21:18, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Physiology for the admins to implement

Reshiram is a white-colored, bipedal Pokémon of indefinable but seemingly draconic basis, with some of the avian features of feathers. Reshiram’s snout is mammalian in appearance, most resembling something vulpine or even canine. Streaming out from the upper side of the snout and outward from the head is a long, voluminous wispy mane, the top of which forms a spike or small head-crest of some sort. Reshiram’s face is fringed with spiky features, with one small, pointed extension of it below the chin.

Reshiram’s neck is long and slender, with a collar-esque protrusion of fur or feathers seeming held in place by two somewhat glass-like neck-bands, with similar bands present on the “wrists” of Reshiram’s forelimbs. Reshiram’s forelimbs are expansive, wing-like appendages or some unusual sort of wings themselves; the beginning portions of the limbs are slender and generally conventionally arm-like, but flare out into a more wing-like, feathered section farther on the limb, sporting four claws on the leading edge. On Reshiram’s chest is a feathered feature most similar in shape to a Silver Wing, with the lower portion protruding outward to a point. Long feathers spread out from Reshiram’s thighs, its feet with large claws---three in front, and the one in the back positioned at an angle somewhat like high heels. Reshiram’s tail is a thick mass of a centermost plume and ribbon-like secondary extensions, surrounded by two large bands.

(Reshiram is some feat to describe, which is why I split the description into two paragraphs.) Steph 16:37, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Update note - There's an important feature that most people tend to not notice. Reshiram's 'tail' looks uncannily like a traditional fire torch, only without colour and turned on its side. This feature no doubt is the only sort of physical inclination of the Pokemon's fire type. The central plume being the flame and the rings being the metal barriers. - Comfy Shorts (user)

Also, in a recent trailer, Reshiram was seen shooting flames out of its tail thing, so that should probably go under Physiology or Abilities. Evidence: Towards the end of this video, the 3D versions of Reshiram and Zekrom are seen in their awakening sequence. Reshiram is shooting flames out of his arse, and Zekrom's little motor thing is generating electricity. Tailzfoxy96 01:15, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

zoroark listing

So, how do we know that Zoroark will come right before Reshiram? Should we not have a ??? beside them?Megadog 00:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

This needs to be changed. CuboneKing 06:02, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Resistance to ice

If the Dragon/Fire typing is true, wouldn't that mean that, along with Dialga, Palkia, and Kingdra, this is one of the few dragon types that does not suffer double damage from ice?--Grammernatzi 08:25, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes and yes. The typing has been confirmed, so it take neutral damage from Ice-type moves. Werdnae (talk) 08:32, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Possible Name Origin?

Does anyone think that the "Re" in Reshiram could be taken from the Chinese 熱 rè (meaning "heat" or "hot")? Chao 13:39, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

It's possible. CuboneKing 23:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

I was looking through names, and came across Rishima, which means 'moonbeam' in Hindi. I find that interesting. (name and definition at http://www.20000-names.com/moon_names.htm ) Temsol (Temsol 00:50, 1 August 2010 (UTC)) 7:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

That could work. It could also be from 日 rì​ (sun) and/or 月 yuè (moon). Chao 06:11, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

probably.telling by the full name translation, (Yet to be provided),it must mean that. ♪♫The ΩredcloverΩ 17:59, 11 February 2011 (UTC)♫♪

Trivia to be added

Reshiram is the only Pokémon to have a Dragon/Fire typing --S2daam 14:09, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Reshiram is also the only Fire type Pokémon without red, yellow, or orange in its color scheme. That could be added as well. -- TusSocks145 02:30, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

when flames go their hottest they turn white...theres a reason why it's that color other than the yin yang thing...Ataro 03:09, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Actually the hottest flames are blue /nitpicking Vienna Waltz 07:05, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

The term "white-hot" refers to incandescence, the emission of light from a hot body due to its temperature. Dunno if that works or not. Jdthebud 07:29, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

I don't know if this is trivia or not, but is there a reason Reshiram's and Zekrom's origins are on the legendary Pokemon page and not on their own pages? It seems like it should be on their respective pages somewhere. Ikarishipper900 20:29, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

The origins on these pages are actually different. The origins here refer to the real life counterpart/inspiration or whatever it is the design of these Pokémon is based on. The origin you seem to be talking about is related to the story itself, so they would not appear here. (At least not under the origin's section, which has a different meaning here). —♥ Jello^talk 20:36, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

There is also an error in the origin section. It says it's tail is like a turbine, which is the tail of Zekrom, not Reshiram. Reshiram's is based off of a torch. Yonkomother 00:18, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

That is not an error. It is stated here by Sugimori that their tails are based on electric turbines. --SnorlaxMonster 15:07, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Should it be mentioned that Reshiram resembles a wyvern?

It even goes down to feathers (although I can't confirm if the image I found is fake, so it may be good to assume wyverns aren't feathered until a guaranteed source is found). However, every depiction of a wyvern I have found has shown them to have two wings and two legs, like Reshiram --Shadowater 20:51, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Number

Serebii has just confirmed that Reshiram will be #643 AdamRS92 14:10, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Warning. You will get loads of people saying "Serebii doesn't confirm anything". _Blake ^Talk·Edits 20:25, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Moves obtainable by breeding

Same deal as with Zekrom. No eggs means no egg moves. --Andy^P_K^M_N 11:43, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Clouds?

Reshiram and its counterpart Zekrom are based on the concept of yin and yang. Appearance wise, it resembles a mix of animals, including a bird, a canid such as a fox or a wolf, and a Wyvern . The crest on its head and its feathers are references to clouds as well as white fire, which can burn up to temperatures of 1,500 °C (2,730 °F). To further this connection with fire and combustion, its tail resembles a rocket engine.

Where are you getting clouds from Resh's crest? It looks more like a smoke trail than a cloud.

Reshiram and its counterpart Zekrom are based on the concept of yin and yang. Appearance wise, it resembles a mix of animals, including a bird, a canid such as a fox or a wolf, and a Wyvern . The crest on its head and its feathers resembles a smoke trail as well as white fire, which can burn up to temperatures of 1,500 °C (2,730 °F). To further this connection with fire and combustion, its tail resembles a rocket engine.

--Mackinz of SoulSilver 14:06, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

I always thought it's tail looked more like a torch. - unsigned comment from Mewtwomaster (talk • contribs)

Not Required for Storyline Progression

WARNING: Spoilers for Black and White Versions follow!!!

On this article and on Zekrom (Pokémon), it states that the two legendaries are required for capture in Black and White respectively in order to proceed through the game. According to Serebii.net, however, this is FALSE! They state that if you have a full party and PC (all 18 boxes), then you can proceed without catching either. They are later available in Dragon Spire Tower at Lv. 50. Both have a chance of being shiny, but not when fought in N's Castle. This was supposedly stated in the recently published official guide for Black and White. For verification, please see this and scroll down to Reshiram/Zekrom's section. If this is factual, then we should change the articles for Reshiram and Zekrom accordingly. - The Pokémon Master 20:27, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Interesting. I don't know how to set this up, but if you have an idea, go and do it. --SnorlaxMonster 08:21, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

The Trivia says that it has no chance of being Shiny, ever. Should we add on that Dragon Spiral Tower bit?--Silentzerox 01:49, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

I believe it was found otherwise, but I'm not sure how it works anymore. I've people saying that the Dragon Spiral Tower one can't be Shiny, while others say that it can. --SnorlaxMonster 10:09, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Censorship

Would it be right to add to the trivia that numerous times, Reshiram has been censored to exclude the tuft of hair on its crotch that can be seen to resemble a penis? This happened with the Macy float, and when Official Nintendo Magazine in the UK featured Reshiram on the issue of their February 2011 issue, they placed the "Pokémon Black Version" logo in a way that it covered the tuft. This is also interesting, considering how Ken Sugimori said that Reshiram was supposed to be feminine.

I don't know about all of those instances, but I'd assume that the float was just a design limitation and the version logo placement isn't necessarily censorship - it has to be placed somewhere. Are there any official sources saying they intentionally censored the image? ʝɑzzmotɦ _❝❞✎ 21:16, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

It's also not officially confirmed that Porygon family are banned in the anime or Kadabra in the TCG, but we still mention them.----無限の知性 ◎ ＤＥＮＮＯＵ◆ＺＥＮＳＨＩ 18:06, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

But we don't call them banned, we say that they haven't appeared in the TCG/anime since, and offer the most likely explanation. Also, the reason ONM covered it up is because the boxart does too, and has the logo in the same position as Black's. --SnorlaxMonster 15:07, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Electric turbine

The part about his tail in every article is wrong. There is no such thing as an electric turbine. That would be called a motor. Just please call it a turbine or steam or gas turbine. - unsigned comment from Todus (talk • contribs)

It is stated here by Sugimori that their tails are based on electric turbines. --SnorlaxMonster 15:07, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Why is this deleted?

In the Japanese versions of Pokémon Black and White, Reshiram is known as the White Yang Pokémon.

Is it unpleasant to esteem the original? Sawamular101 08:03, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

We usually don't list what the original species names are in trivia. --ケンジのガール 08:21, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

And they can be found here.----無限の知性 ◎ ＤＥＮＮＯＵ◆ＺＥＮＳＨＩ 08:23, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Why is information isolated? It is appropriate to explain on Pokemon's page(Trivia). Sawamular101 08:25, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Can you not read the banner at the top? Do not add any trivia. Also, please use the preview button so that you do not edit the same sentence several times.Jazama 21:53, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the instruction. If the restriction is released, may I describe it again?Sawamular101

The species name changes all the time, so even if the restriction is released you cannot put it in again. The only time a changed species name should be pointed out is when the new one does not make sense or is completely random.Jazama 02:48, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Is it a rule of Bulbapedia?Sawamular101 08:40, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

EV

Do Reshi and Zeky give EVs? And I mean the N Castle one. This isn't said anywhere, and I'm curious. ~ Blitzamirin ~ 00:26, 24 July 2011 (UTC) Because it doesn't faint and then disappear, I would a good time for training for attack evs. Now I'm interested. Luxraychu 16:44, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Overdrive

I just got a Game Art Folio off of Ebay (sidenote: anyone know where these originally came from?), and on the back of the Reshiram and Zekrom "cards", it describes them as entering Overdrive with a capital O. To quote: "Reshiram/Zekrom enters Overdrive mode when its emotions surge, causing parts of it's body to glow vivid red with flame/bright blue with electricity." If the glowing body parts is what's meant by "Overdrive", then that just occurs during the Pokémon's Idle Animation, right? Anyway, the point being that perhaps Overdrive mode should be noted on Reshiram/Zekrom's pages as well as Kyurem's...--Purimpopoie 19:14, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

The art folios were a release special. They were only made for a short time, and I have one as well. We've known about Overdrive, I guess we just didn't know where to put it. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ♥ 20:45, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Reshiram and Zekrom in the anime

Glitchmasteravi (talk) 19:50, 17 February 2013 (UTC):Bulbapedia should add "A Village Homecoming!" to the minor appearances section in the anime because for a second it shows a staue of Reshiram and Zekrom.

Overdrive in the infobox

Since we have the Radiant Sun/Full Moon phases inthe infoboxes of Solgaleo and Lunala respectively, I believe we should have the Overdrive modes of Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyurem in the infoboxes as well. --Celadonkey 23:24, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

No, they're not in the 'dex. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:37, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Ah, okay, that makes sense

In my opinion, either way, both the phases and the Overdrive should be added to the infoboxes, they're (proper) named, in-battle appearance changes, despite not being in the dex. But I don't really mind either way --Celadonkey 23:43, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

The infobox is pretty much all about game info. Special cases will only invite confusion and arguments. Simple is best. Tiddlywinks (talk) 23:46, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks --Celadonkey 00:01, 2 February 2018 (UTC)