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Are you sure that Joi and Junsaa are "plays" on Japanese words? I thought they WERE just the Japanese words, and that each individual nurse and officer didn't actually have names. | ==Japanese == | ||
Are you sure that Joi and Junsaa are "plays" on Japanese words? I thought they WERE just the Japanese words, and that each individual nurse and officer didn't actually have names. {{unsigned|Transfinite}} | |||
Junsā is not the same as ''junsa'' -- length matters in Japanese. As for Joi - it sounds different from how I would pronounce ''joi'' - I would pronounce it with a clear syllable break. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 00:17, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC) | Junsā is not the same as ''junsa'' -- length matters in Japanese. As for Joi - it sounds different from how I would pronounce ''joi'' - I would pronounce it with a clear syllable break. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 00:17, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC) | ||
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Actually, I just checked the credits and ''Joi'' is actually ''Jōi'', so that makes all this talk rather irrelevant. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 02:06, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC) | Actually, I just checked the credits and ''Joi'' is actually ''Jōi'', so that makes all this talk rather irrelevant. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 02:06, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC) | ||
== Source? == | |||
''"It would seem that the Nurse Joy family is related to the Officer Jenny family."'' What's the source on this? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 23:22, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | ''"It would seem that the Nurse Joy family is related to the Officer Jenny family."'' What's the source on this? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 23:22, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
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Weren't the Viridian City Joy and Jenny related? --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 17:49, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | Weren't the Viridian City Joy and Jenny related? --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 17:49, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
:I don't think so. I just saw the episode a couple of days ago, and to my knowledge, there was no mention of them being related. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] 18:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | :I don't think so. I just saw the episode a couple of days ago, and to my knowledge, there was no mention of them being related. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] 18:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
:I don't think so either. In fact, I think they're an often cited example for LilacShipping because of the way they act around each other; wouldn't that be thrown out the window if they were cousins or something? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] <sup>~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]</sup> 18:57, 15 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Nurse Joy's voice == | |||
[[Kayzie Rogers]] only voiced [[Officer Jenny]] in [[The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon]] {{unsigned|Livinlarge18}} | |||
== Casey - The Game Nurse? == | |||
I have just noticed something while participating in a Super Contest in my diamond. The Nurse participated in Contest! Her name is Casey and she uses a Chansey named Pinky. Interesting, isn't it? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:48, 17 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
It is! <big><sub>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#F05030;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</sub><sub>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#5C8CFA;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</sub> <sub>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#EEC226;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</sub></big> 18:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Relation of them all? == | |||
There's gotta be a way we could show that... <span style="background:#FF9030">'''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#000000">chidna</span>]]</span><span style="background:#664444">[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|<sup><span style="color:#FFD700">G</span></sup><sub><span style="color:#E0E0E0">S</span></sub><span style="color:#000000">DS!</span>]]'''</span> 02:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
What do you mean????? Like a family tree???? That'll be pretty sweet! We could do it for Officer Jenny, too! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|<span style="color:#FF7F00">Theryguy</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">5</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">1</span>]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|<span style="color:#5C8CFA">2</span>]]''' 11:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
Or have a list of locations and Nurse Joys that work there or something like that... <big><sub>[[User:Tesh|<span style="color:#F05030;">'''TESH'''</span>]]</sub><sub>[[User Talk:Tesh|<span style="color:#5C8CFA;">'''TALK'''</span>]]</sub><sub>[[User:Tesh/Other|<span style="color:#EEC226;">'''FUN'''</span>]]</sub></big> 20:52, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
Do the family tree?? But, how many Joys do you think that appeared in the Anime?? They're too many!! -'''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">うずまき</span>]] [[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|<span style="color:#705898">ハルカ</span>]]''' 20:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Party Table addition == | |||
A Nurse Joy participated in the PLEE w/ the exam's Squirtle in [[EP056]]. Can someone add it to the party table please??????--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:##0000FF;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#996666;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 19:40, 26 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Got it. The tables got me confused for a moment, but I managed to get it right. - [[User talk:SpontaneousCombusken|<sub><span style="background:#D55208"><span style="color:#FFFFFD">s.</span></span></sub>]][[User:SpontaneousCombusken|<span style="background:#F4DA8E"><span style="color:#E57E4C;">'''Combusken'''</span></span>]] 19:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
Thank you [[AG162]]--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:##0000FF;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#996666;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 20:01, 26 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Magikarp/Gyarados == | |||
In EP092, there really was a giant Magikarp (which evolved into Gyarados). However, it wasn't owned by Nurse Joy IMHO, it just was her friend. Right? <span style="color: #3FFF00; font-weight: bold">UltimateSephiroth</span> <sup>(<span style="color: #003FFF">[[User:UltimateSephiroth|user]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|contrib]]</span>)</sup> 00:03, 20 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
Then we'll put it in a befriended section. That's all, it's simple--[[User:Kuki|<span style="color:#b00000;">Kuki</span>]][[User talk:Kuki|<span style="color:#2c40a4;">Ta</span><span style="color:#049440;">lk</span>]] 00:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
== New article?? == | |||
It has recently been revealed that a different looking Nurse Joy, will be in Isshu. Should she just be added to this article, or a new article "Nurse Joy (Isshu)"? Seeming she will probably be pretty much the same as the others, but has a new look. Just wanted to clear it up. --[[User:S2daam|S2daam]] 15:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Okay, do we have anything besides the fact that she's a new nurse? We don't even know if that's her name, and you want an article already? They look similar but it doesn't mean they're the same. Let's wait until we get more information before we start jumping to conclusions. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 16:51, 19 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
== New look? == | |||
I think it's a just a new design for Joy. So, when the time comes we need to say SOMETHING about her design being remade. NOT YET. But when the anime comes out. :D Also should we protect Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny, so we don't get vandalism? --[[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><font color="red">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;background:black"><small><font color="yellow">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]]''' 23:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Trivia == | |||
"In Mewtwo Strikes Back, while Brock is looking at Nurse Joy's missing poster, in the section that says "name:," it says Joy, followed by an illegible last name. This implies that all of the Nurse Joys have last names (and are possibly all different)." | |||
::Isn't it a well-known fact that in Japanese naming order, the family name comes before the given name, so it really would be an illegible given name? That being said, the second sentence of the article reads "As revealed in Drifloon in the Wind!, Joy is not the first name of these women, but actually the family name.", along with this being supported in every way in the article until this quite-innacurate Trivia paragraph. -[[User:Thunderboom|Thunderboom]] 20:27, 1 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Given that Brock has confirmed they're all different anyway, I think we can scratch this trivia item. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 10:13, 8 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Extended family == | |||
The defanition of extended family is your family, including uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc and to be part of an extended family would imply you live with them or very close to them. So this trivia on Joy, Jenny and Don georges page is a little bit wrong, that said, I can't think of the word we need, inbred? no, but these are not extended families so to speak [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 15:45, 21 September 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Diane Stillwell == | |||
Yes the resume says Michele Knotz voiced Joy in MMoP. But keep in mind that it was dubbed '''twice'''. And I believe someone said Stillwell voiced Joy in the first dub while Knotz voiced her in the second. I can't confirm if it's true or not but I think it's worth looking into. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 20:33, 24 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Names == | |||
So, apparently Joys can have different names, as in [[DP028|this episode]], though I remember that in [[EP206|this episode]] that Joy's mother calls here Joy '''specifically''', and not some other name, implying that her first name was Joy. Which is it? --[[User:Pringles|<span style="color:#424B50">'''P'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">r</span>]][[User talk:Pringles|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''i'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ngles</span>]] 03:16, 15 May 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Scizor == | |||
In [[AG143]], Nurse Joy's Scizor has appearance, whether it should be added?[[User:Pawel10s|Pawel10s]] ([[User talk:Pawel10s|talk]]) 07:50, 9 February 2013 (UTC) | |||
:If that's all the information you have on it then I think it should be put in trivia, not be put in at all, or put below all of her other Pokemon (but not given its own box). [[User:Rainbow Shifter|Rainbow Shifter]] ([[User talk:Rainbow Shifter|talk]]) 08:48, 9 February 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Are you sure it is Nurse Joy's? It isn't listed as her Pokémon in the list of Pokémon on the episode page. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 09:53, 9 February 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Zoroark's Flamethrower == | |||
Did Zoroark actually use the move or were the flames only illusions? I know the move was only used when it was disguised as Heatmor, did aNYTHING ACTUALLY BURN OR TAKE DAMAGE FROM THE FLAMES? [[User:05308|<font color="blue">Diamond</font>]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|<font color="yellow">Lanturn</font>]] [[User talk:05308|<font color="red">CodeName: 05308</font>]] 23:51, 23 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
:It might have. It is able to learn the move using a TM in the game. So even though the Heatmor was an illusion, the Flamethrower could very well have been real. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 23:58, 23 May 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Voice Actress Trivia! == | |||
Nurse Joy shares two of her voice actresses (Megan Hollingshead and Erica Shroeder/Bella Hudson) with Mai Valentine of Yu-Gi-Oh! fame (Megan was the original Mai and played her for the first three seasons, Erica played her in the 4th season and subsequent media). And Megan Hollingshead also plays Shizune, a medical specialist like Nurse Joy, on Naruto! I think that would be a couple of really cool points of trivia. --[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 01:28, 25 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
:And [[Cyrus]] shares his voice actor with Goku from Dragon Ball. It's not notable, it's a "so what?" trivia.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 01:42, 25 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
== XY095 == | |||
How about creating a separate article for this Joy? The pair laugh me around. [[User:KyleRGiggs|Raymond]] 14:02, 13 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
== Joy's Indeedee == | |||
I think Indeedee would be put on Recurring Pokémon section in the Nurse Joy's page. --[[User:Lockheedpryde|Lockheedpryde]] ([[User talk:Lockheedpryde|talk]]) 22:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 22:34, 16 July 2020
Japanese
Are you sure that Joi and Junsaa are "plays" on Japanese words? I thought they WERE just the Japanese words, and that each individual nurse and officer didn't actually have names. - unsigned comment from Transfinite (talk • contribs)
Junsā is not the same as junsa -- length matters in Japanese. As for Joi - it sounds different from how I would pronounce joi - I would pronounce it with a clear syllable break. - 振霖T 00:17, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I don't think that the way you would pronounce things is the be-all and end-all of Japanese pronunciation. Not to mention, I've heard characters saying "jo-i" AND "joi", both with and without the syllable break.
And also, why does everyone doing romanisation here insist on using bars over letters? Those won't display in the browser I'm using. Why can't we just use double vowels and call Jenny "Junsaa"? Besides the I with the bar over it is fugly and rarely used anywhere but here. --Ketsuban
Because Hepburn romanisation is what is commonly used and it suggests macrons, not circumflexes nor doubling. As for ī, I quote "In words of Japanese or Chinese origin, the long vowel i is written ii." (emphasis added).
- That still doesn't change the fact that the I with the macron is fugly. Just because it's widely accepted doesn't mean it's the best possible way. --Ketsuban
Also, I don't think you'd address a female doctor as joi any more than you would address a male doctor isha, a teacher kyōshi, your own mother haha or father chichi - instead, you'd use the titles sensei for the former two and (o)kā(san) and (o)tō(san) for the latter two. This strongly suggests that Joi is her name.
As for your browser problem, it may be linked to not having the fonts installed or using Windows 9x. - 振霖T 01:54, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Actually, I just checked the credits and Joi is actually Jōi, so that makes all this talk rather irrelevant. - 振霖T 02:06, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Source?
"It would seem that the Nurse Joy family is related to the Officer Jenny family." What's the source on this? --Pie ~♪♫ 23:22, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- It's probably just through the fact that there are lots of clones in each family. But the DP028 explanation pretty much kills that theory since they would have to be seperate. --FabuVinny 15:47, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Weren't the Viridian City Joy and Jenny related? --Zeta 17:49, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think so. I just saw the episode a couple of days ago, and to my knowledge, there was no mention of them being related. --PAK Man 18:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think so either. In fact, I think they're an often cited example for LilacShipping because of the way they act around each other; wouldn't that be thrown out the window if they were cousins or something? --Pie ~♪♫ 18:57, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Nurse Joy's voice
Kayzie Rogers only voiced Officer Jenny in The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon - unsigned comment from Livinlarge18 (talk • contribs)
Casey - The Game Nurse?
I have just noticed something while participating in a Super Contest in my diamond. The Nurse participated in Contest! Her name is Casey and she uses a Chansey named Pinky. Interesting, isn't it? --Maxim 17:48, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
It is! TESHTALK FUN 18:39, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Relation of them all?
There's gotta be a way we could show that... TTEchidnaGSDS! 02:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
What do you mean????? Like a family tree???? That'll be pretty sweet! We could do it for Officer Jenny, too! --Theryguy512 11:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Or have a list of locations and Nurse Joys that work there or something like that... TESHTALKFUN 20:52, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Do the family tree?? But, how many Joys do you think that appeared in the Anime?? They're too many!! -うずまき ハルカ 20:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Party Table addition
A Nurse Joy participated in the PLEE w/ the exam's Squirtle in EP056. Can someone add it to the party table please??????--KukiTalk 19:40, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Got it. The tables got me confused for a moment, but I managed to get it right. - s.Combusken 19:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you AG162--KukiTalk 20:01, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Magikarp/Gyarados
In EP092, there really was a giant Magikarp (which evolved into Gyarados). However, it wasn't owned by Nurse Joy IMHO, it just was her friend. Right? UltimateSephiroth (user · talk · contrib) 00:03, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
Then we'll put it in a befriended section. That's all, it's simple--KukiTalk 00:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
New article??
It has recently been revealed that a different looking Nurse Joy, will be in Isshu. Should she just be added to this article, or a new article "Nurse Joy (Isshu)"? Seeming she will probably be pretty much the same as the others, but has a new look. Just wanted to clear it up. --S2daam 15:00, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, do we have anything besides the fact that she's a new nurse? We don't even know if that's her name, and you want an article already? They look similar but it doesn't mean they're the same. Let's wait until we get more information before we start jumping to conclusions. —♥ Jellotalk 16:51, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
New look?
I think it's a just a new design for Joy. So, when the time comes we need to say SOMETHING about her design being remade. NOT YET. But when the anime comes out. :D Also should we protect Nurse Joy and Officer Jenny, so we don't get vandalism? --Landfish7 23:08, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Trivia
"In Mewtwo Strikes Back, while Brock is looking at Nurse Joy's missing poster, in the section that says "name:," it says Joy, followed by an illegible last name. This implies that all of the Nurse Joys have last names (and are possibly all different)."
- Isn't it a well-known fact that in Japanese naming order, the family name comes before the given name, so it really would be an illegible given name? That being said, the second sentence of the article reads "As revealed in Drifloon in the Wind!, Joy is not the first name of these women, but actually the family name.", along with this being supported in every way in the article until this quite-innacurate Trivia paragraph. -Thunderboom 20:27, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
- Given that Brock has confirmed they're all different anyway, I think we can scratch this trivia item. —darklordtrom 10:13, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Isn't it a well-known fact that in Japanese naming order, the family name comes before the given name, so it really would be an illegible given name? That being said, the second sentence of the article reads "As revealed in Drifloon in the Wind!, Joy is not the first name of these women, but actually the family name.", along with this being supported in every way in the article until this quite-innacurate Trivia paragraph. -Thunderboom 20:27, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Extended family
The defanition of extended family is your family, including uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc and to be part of an extended family would imply you live with them or very close to them. So this trivia on Joy, Jenny and Don georges page is a little bit wrong, that said, I can't think of the word we need, inbred? no, but these are not extended families so to speak Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 15:45, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
Diane Stillwell
Yes the resume says Michele Knotz voiced Joy in MMoP. But keep in mind that it was dubbed twice. And I believe someone said Stillwell voiced Joy in the first dub while Knotz voiced her in the second. I can't confirm if it's true or not but I think it's worth looking into. --ケンジのガール 20:33, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Names
So, apparently Joys can have different names, as in this episode, though I remember that in this episode that Joy's mother calls here Joy specifically, and not some other name, implying that her first name was Joy. Which is it? --Pringles 03:16, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Scizor
In AG143, Nurse Joy's Scizor has appearance, whether it should be added?Pawel10s (talk) 07:50, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
- If that's all the information you have on it then I think it should be put in trivia, not be put in at all, or put below all of her other Pokemon (but not given its own box). Rainbow Shifter (talk) 08:48, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
Zoroark's Flamethrower
Did Zoroark actually use the move or were the flames only illusions? I know the move was only used when it was disguised as Heatmor, did aNYTHING ACTUALLY BURN OR TAKE DAMAGE FROM THE FLAMES? Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 23:51, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
- It might have. It is able to learn the move using a TM in the game. So even though the Heatmor was an illusion, the Flamethrower could very well have been real. Nuckles123 (talk) 23:58, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Voice Actress Trivia!
Nurse Joy shares two of her voice actresses (Megan Hollingshead and Erica Shroeder/Bella Hudson) with Mai Valentine of Yu-Gi-Oh! fame (Megan was the original Mai and played her for the first three seasons, Erica played her in the 4th season and subsequent media). And Megan Hollingshead also plays Shizune, a medical specialist like Nurse Joy, on Naruto! I think that would be a couple of really cool points of trivia. --BlackButterfree (talk) 01:28, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
- And Cyrus shares his voice actor with Goku from Dragon Ball. It's not notable, it's a "so what?" trivia.--ForceFire 01:42, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
XY095
How about creating a separate article for this Joy? The pair laugh me around. Raymond 14:02, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
Joy's Indeedee
I think Indeedee would be put on Recurring Pokémon section in the Nurse Joy's page. --Lockheedpryde (talk) 22:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)