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=Name Origin=
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I had a few ideas about the name origin as well. The "or" in "monorpale" means gold, so the name could be roughly translated to single gold blade perhaps. In its japanese name as well, "ki" could allude to "kin" which also means gold. -- [[User talk:Danjam|Danjam]] 00:21, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
I had a few ideas about the name origin as well. The "or" in "monorpale" means gold, so the name could be roughly translated to single gold blade perhaps. In its japanese name as well, "ki" could allude to "kin" which also means gold. -- [[User talk:Danjam|Danjam]] 00:21, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
No, I just said the french word "pale" means the same as the english word "pale" (as the opposite of dark), and not "blade" as is written on the article. Such a choice of word wouldn't make sense considering the more obvious possibility of the second word being "(V)orpale". If the "or" stood for "gold", then "mon or pale" would litterally mean "my pale gold", and would make no sense either. I'm standing with the "Mono" + "Vorpale" option, I'm only pointing it here because I lack permission to edit the actual article. [[User:Monorpale|Monorpale]] ([[User talk:Monorpale|talk]]) 01:46, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
The name in English may have been chosen as a play on "one edge", seeing that the Japanese and the French names have the word "one" (mono/hitotsu) in it.[[User:Fructis|Fructis]] ([[User talk:Fructis|talk]]) 15:04, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
:The name could also come from "honour", from the time of chivalry in the middle ages where swords were primarily used. [[User:Xolotl|Xolotl]] ([[User talk:Xolotl|talk]]) 15:18, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Could its name also have to do with homage to honor someone?--[[User:Pokemonboy3000|Pokemonboy3000]] ([[User talk:Pokemonboy3000|talk]]) 16:45, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
:Might it also come from "hone", as in "sharpen"? [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] ([[User talk:Lucentas|talk]]) 20:02, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
::I think that is correct. In fact, it's a glaringly obvious pun on "hone edge", as in, to hone the edge of the blade. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 20:57, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
:::The issue lies in the official pronunciation, which we haven't been given.  It's obvious that it's a play on of "hone edge", but it may be pronounced like "on-edge" which implies that the first syllable of its name could make another language joke out of the entire name as a corruption of the word "homage"(this is assuming that we are supposed to pronounce its name like we're saying the phrase "on edge")[[User:Yveltal-is-roosting|Yveltal-is-roosting]] ([[User talk:Yveltal-is-roosting|talk]]) 08:42, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
What if it's name has to do with the word 'haunt." Honedge looks like a corruption of Hauntedge (except with out the T sound)
==Central Wiki==
Hi, there's the Italian page of Hitotsuki, can you add it http://wiki.pokemoncentral.it/Hitotsuki? Bye --[[User:Zapdos96|Zapdos96]] ([[User talk:Zapdos96|talk]]) 08:00, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
== Height and weight ==
Height is 0.8m and weight is 2kg; as older Pokémon show. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 11:12, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
== Origin ==
Instead of just saying "It seems to be based on a scabbard and sword which contains an ancient soul", why not say that it is based on a tsukumo-gami (artefact spirit)? Unless its origins are stated officially, I think Honedge is based on a sword and scabbard tsukumo-gami. --[[User:구미호 the Ninetales|<span style="color:green">Gumiho구미호</span>]] ''([[User talk:구미호 the Ninetales|<span style="color:purple">구미호 the Ninetales</span>]])'' 14:32, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Is it also possible that it may be based on a magical/enchanted sword of legend, like the Kusanagi of Japan or Durendal from France?[[User:Yveltal-is-roosting|Yveltal-is-roosting]] ([[User talk:Yveltal-is-roosting|talk]]) 18:14, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
:Tsukumogami are born from objects that have "lived" for more than a hundred years. This is a sword haunted by a departed spirit. Slightly different. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 20:59, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
== Honedge ==
Honedge is the only Pokémon to have its French name revealed before its English name. Honedge might also be a pun on "one". [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] <sup>([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])</sup> 14:11, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
== Abilities ==
It can use the blue cloth attached to its hilt as nimbly as an arm. If you were to carelessly take this blade in hand, you may find that blue cloth wrapping around you...draining the energy from your body!
* Facts from pokemonxy.com
[[User:Pokeprof1|Pokeprof1]] ([[User talk:Pokeprof1|talk]]) 16:36, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
== Trivia ==
Am I missing something, or is Honedge the first Pokémon with a [[Steel]]/[[Ghost]] type combination? If so, shouldn't this be on the trivia?--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 20:46, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
:You're not missing anything; it is definitely a first for its typing. [[User:Dudey997|In '97, Dudley]] [[User_talk:Dudey997|didn't]] [[Special:Contributions/Dudey997|do right.]] 21:24, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
::It's the first one revealed, but as far as I know, we've been waiting to put "unique type" trivia on the new Gen VI Pokemon because we don't know whether another Pokemon with the same type will be revealed. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 22:32, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
:::Thanks for clearing that up for me. I am glad that I haven't gone mad!--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 09:57, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
== Prounouciation ==
How do you prounce this, I'm making X and Y Updates on my Facebook and I'm wondering how I prounounce it.
Thanks
[[User:Kevasaurus|Kevasaurus]] ([[User talk:Kevasaurus|talk]]) 16:25, 6 July 2013 (UTC)Kevin
:No official pronunciation has been given. Additionally, Bulbapedia doesn't list pronunciations because different official media (anime, [[Pokémon Battle Revolution|PBR]], licensed guidebooks, etc) have given contradictory pronunciations for many Pokemon. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:12, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
== Info from Intro ==
Why can't we update Honedge's page with all the info described in its video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqwYdOsbixI
[[User:Philosophical-Psychological Informist Togekiss|Philosophical-Psychological Informist Togekiss]] ([[User talk:Philosophical-Psychological Informist Togekiss|talk]]) 23:16, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
==Reveal==
I was wondering, maybe the fact that it was revealed at Japan Expo, making it the first time a Pokémon has first been announced in a language other than Japanese and English, as well as in a country other than Japan (I don't know if any pokémon has been announced at an American event, though) should be specified in the trivia section ? --[[User:Unbirth|Unbirth]] ([[User talk:Unbirth|talk]]) 15:06, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
* Sounds like it'd be a nice bit of trivia to me. [[User:Iamohjay|Iamohjay]] ([[User talk:Iamohjay|talk]]) 16:55, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
== Korean name for Honedge ==
Its Korean name is 단칼빙 ''Dankalbing''.
* 단(單) ''dan'', "single"
* 칼 ''kal'', "knife", "sword"
:: 단칼에 ''dankal'e'' also means "with one stroke of the sword"
* 빙자 ''bingja'', "dependence", "reliance"
:: I'm assuming this is the proper word, based on the Japanese name meaning, even though neither of the kanji are pronounced as 빙 in hanja. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 18:36, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
== Evolution ==
Nintendo just revealed a evolution for Honedge - [[Doublade]]. [[User:Asmod96|Asmod96]] ([[User talk:Asmod96|talk]]) 16:01, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
:So...shouldn't someone who can edit this page remove the "evolution unknown" sentence from Honedge's page? I'd do it myself, but I don't seem to have editing privileges.[[User:Pokegen master|Pokegen master]] ([[User talk:Pokegen master|talk]]) 19:23, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
Purge your cache, it has been updated. --<b>[[User talk:Relicant|<span style="color:#EBEBEB;">The</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|<span style="color:#F08030;">Truth</span>]]</b> aka Relicant 19:27, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
:Thanks.[[User:Pokegen master|Pokegen master]] ([[User talk:Pokegen master|talk]]) 01:55, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
== Scabbard design ==
The design on both Honedge and Doublade's sheath resembles that of a {{wp|triquetra}}, clearly depicted on Honedge and more ornately designed on Doublade's. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 16:09, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 01:55, 26 September 2013

Name Origin

About it's french name : I'd just like to point out that it isn't from "mono" and "pale" (which just means pale btw, not blade), but "mono" and "vorpale" (like the Vorpal sword). Monorpale (talk) 00:07, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

I had a few ideas about the name origin as well. The "or" in "monorpale" means gold, so the name could be roughly translated to single gold blade perhaps. In its japanese name as well, "ki" could allude to "kin" which also means gold. -- Danjam 00:21, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

No, I just said the french word "pale" means the same as the english word "pale" (as the opposite of dark), and not "blade" as is written on the article. Such a choice of word wouldn't make sense considering the more obvious possibility of the second word being "(V)orpale". If the "or" stood for "gold", then "mon or pale" would litterally mean "my pale gold", and would make no sense either. I'm standing with the "Mono" + "Vorpale" option, I'm only pointing it here because I lack permission to edit the actual article. Monorpale (talk) 01:46, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

The name in English may have been chosen as a play on "one edge", seeing that the Japanese and the French names have the word "one" (mono/hitotsu) in it.Fructis (talk) 15:04, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

The name could also come from "honour", from the time of chivalry in the middle ages where swords were primarily used. Xolotl (talk) 15:18, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Could its name also have to do with homage to honor someone?--Pokemonboy3000 (talk) 16:45, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Might it also come from "hone", as in "sharpen"? Lucentas (talk) 20:02, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
I think that is correct. In fact, it's a glaringly obvious pun on "hone edge", as in, to hone the edge of the blade. Me, Hurray! (talk) 20:57, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
The issue lies in the official pronunciation, which we haven't been given. It's obvious that it's a play on of "hone edge", but it may be pronounced like "on-edge" which implies that the first syllable of its name could make another language joke out of the entire name as a corruption of the word "homage"(this is assuming that we are supposed to pronounce its name like we're saying the phrase "on edge")Yveltal-is-roosting (talk) 08:42, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

What if it's name has to do with the word 'haunt." Honedge looks like a corruption of Hauntedge (except with out the T sound)

Central Wiki

Hi, there's the Italian page of Hitotsuki, can you add it http://wiki.pokemoncentral.it/Hitotsuki? Bye --Zapdos96 (talk) 08:00, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Height and weight

Height is 0.8m and weight is 2kg; as older Pokémon show. Marked +-+-+ (talk) 11:12, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Origin

Instead of just saying "It seems to be based on a scabbard and sword which contains an ancient soul", why not say that it is based on a tsukumo-gami (artefact spirit)? Unless its origins are stated officially, I think Honedge is based on a sword and scabbard tsukumo-gami. --Gumiho구미호 (구미호 the Ninetales) 14:32, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Is it also possible that it may be based on a magical/enchanted sword of legend, like the Kusanagi of Japan or Durendal from France?Yveltal-is-roosting (talk) 18:14, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Tsukumogami are born from objects that have "lived" for more than a hundred years. This is a sword haunted by a departed spirit. Slightly different. Me, Hurray! (talk) 20:59, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Honedge

Honedge is the only Pokémon to have its French name revealed before its English name. Honedge might also be a pun on "one". TorchicBlaziken (talkedits) 14:11, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Abilities

It can use the blue cloth attached to its hilt as nimbly as an arm. If you were to carelessly take this blade in hand, you may find that blue cloth wrapping around you...draining the energy from your body!

  • Facts from pokemonxy.com

Pokeprof1 (talk) 16:36, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Trivia

Am I missing something, or is Honedge the first Pokémon with a Steel/Ghost type combination? If so, shouldn't this be on the trivia?--ShinyPatch (talk) 20:46, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

You're not missing anything; it is definitely a first for its typing. In '97, Dudley didn't do right. 21:24, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
It's the first one revealed, but as far as I know, we've been waiting to put "unique type" trivia on the new Gen VI Pokemon because we don't know whether another Pokemon with the same type will be revealed. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 22:32, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for clearing that up for me. I am glad that I haven't gone mad!--ShinyPatch (talk) 09:57, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Prounouciation

How do you prounce this, I'm making X and Y Updates on my Facebook and I'm wondering how I prounounce it. Thanks Kevasaurus (talk) 16:25, 6 July 2013 (UTC)Kevin

No official pronunciation has been given. Additionally, Bulbapedia doesn't list pronunciations because different official media (anime, PBR, licensed guidebooks, etc) have given contradictory pronunciations for many Pokemon. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 21:12, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Info from Intro

Why can't we update Honedge's page with all the info described in its video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqwYdOsbixI Philosophical-Psychological Informist Togekiss (talk) 23:16, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Reveal

I was wondering, maybe the fact that it was revealed at Japan Expo, making it the first time a Pokémon has first been announced in a language other than Japanese and English, as well as in a country other than Japan (I don't know if any pokémon has been announced at an American event, though) should be specified in the trivia section ? --Unbirth (talk) 15:06, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

  • Sounds like it'd be a nice bit of trivia to me. Iamohjay (talk) 16:55, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Korean name for Honedge

Its Korean name is 단칼빙 Dankalbing.

  • 단(單) dan, "single"
  • kal, "knife", "sword"
단칼에 dankal'e also means "with one stroke of the sword"
  • 빙자 bingja, "dependence", "reliance"
I'm assuming this is the proper word, based on the Japanese name meaning, even though neither of the kanji are pronounced as 빙 in hanja. -- Nick15 (talk) 18:36, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Evolution

Nintendo just revealed a evolution for Honedge - Doublade. Asmod96 (talk) 16:01, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

So...shouldn't someone who can edit this page remove the "evolution unknown" sentence from Honedge's page? I'd do it myself, but I don't seem to have editing privileges.Pokegen master (talk) 19:23, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Purge your cache, it has been updated. --The Truth aka Relicant 19:27, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks.Pokegen master (talk) 01:55, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Scabbard design

The design on both Honedge and Doublade's sheath resembles that of a triquetra, clearly depicted on Honedge and more ornately designed on Doublade's. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 16:09, 25 September 2013 (UTC)