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In X and Y, a trainer on Route 18 can be fought to do an inverse battle. On the actual page for inverse battles, he is referred to as a Psychic, but in game and on his own page he is referred to under the trainer class Proprietor, which is not listed here. Given that he still uses the Psychic sprite and is the only trainer of this trainer class, I'm debating on if this should go here or not. --[[User:DasRagnerokGPR|DoneAndSaid]] ([[User talk:DasRagnerokGPR|talk]]) 11:59, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
In X and Y, a trainer on Route 18 can be fought to do an inverse battle. On the actual page for inverse battles, he is referred to as a Psychic, but in game and on his own page he is referred to under the trainer class Proprietor, which is not listed here. Given that he still uses the Psychic sprite and is the only trainer of this trainer class, I'm debating on if this should go here or not. --[[User:DasRagnerokGPR|DoneAndSaid]] ([[User talk:DasRagnerokGPR|talk]]) 11:59, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
:Probably best to leave it off the list of Trainer classes introduced. Inver uses both Proprieter and Psychic depending on if you are playing ORAS or XY. However, given he uses the Psychic class sprite, it is better to just leave them listed as a Psychic type trainer. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 12:21, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
:Probably best to leave it off the list of Trainer classes introduced. Inver uses both Proprieter and Psychic depending on if you are playing ORAS or XY. However, given he uses the Psychic class sprite, it is better to just leave them listed as a Psychic type trainer. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:teal">Frozen</span>]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|<span style="color:green">Fennec</span>]]'' 12:21, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
== Rename "Trainer class" to "Trainer type" ==
In Pokémon Platinum, HeartGold, and SoulSilver, the term "Trainer type" (トレーナータイプ) is used to refer to the teams organized by the player's selected appearance in the Trainer Rankings at the [[Global Terminal]] (such {{tc|School Kid}}♂, {{tc|Lass}}, {{tc|Bug Catcher}}, {{tc|Battle Girl}}, {{tc|Ace Trainer}}♂, {{tc|Beauty}}, etc.). "TRTYPE" is also used as the internal codename for the text files containing Trainer class names in the [[Nintendo Switch]] games, with the data for BDSP writing it out as "Trainers_Type". I'd like to propose using the term "Trainer type" instead of "Trainer class" in most cases.
I'll note that the ''names'' of Trainer classes appear to specifically be called "titles" (肩書き), both for the ones on a [[Battle Pass]] in [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]], for the ones in the [[Pokégear]] in HeartGold and SoulSilver, and for the ones on a {{ga|Trainer Card}} in Generation V. There's also some NPC dialogue that uses this word to describe the {{tc|Rich Boy}}, {{tc|Ace Trainer}}, or {{pkmn|Champion}} titles. This appears to be somewhat independent of the actual appearance of the Trainer, since in PBR the Trainer's appearance is customized independently from the Trainer title. I don't know if there's anywhere where such a distinction would be useful, though.
--[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
:I think splitting off '''Trainer type''' as its own page would be a good extension of this. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#32b761">'''Land'''</span>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#5f6775"><small>'''fish7'''</small></span>]] 03:46, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
::Ok admittedly this page is actually pretty short without that content though. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#32b761">'''Land'''</span>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#5f6775"><small>'''fish7'''</small></span>]] 02:21, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

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Hmm.. I have been putting Pokemon Trainer, not Pokemon trainer on nearly everything until I actually looked at this page. I'm not really sure why it isn't Trainer. It's not technically a proper noun, but I figure everything in the game that's in all caps (items, pokemon, etc.) should probably be considered proper noun enough to be given a capital letter. *shrugs* Just my input. At any rate, from now on I'll put trainer. --greengiant

Given that in the new games, they say "Trainer" with a capital T, I think it should probably be changed. TrainerXiam 22:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

Disambig?

Okay, um... what's the reasoning behind the disambig, anyway? And... why didn't you categorize it, PLKM? TTEchidna 08:41, 14 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

*sigh* This news is making the fandom go crazy. I am definately against this disambiguation, especially as the trivia section of the Pokémon Trainer article makes the link with Red a lot clearer. --FabuVinny T-C-S 13:02, 14 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

I dunno... SSBB may call the character "Pokémon Trainer", but we all know it's Red. I don't see how come we can't just... link to Red. TTEchidna 08:39, 14 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

I think the idea is that it is a Pokémon Trainer is more important than who it is designed on. --FabuVinny T-C-S 13:04, 14 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
I really don't see why this disambig is needed. Not to mention this particular user didn't go through and fix all the links to the disambig. Besides, if people get confused, we can just add a note to the top of the page similar to Erika or Forrest. I'm in support of reverting it. --PAK Man Talk 14:12, 14 August 2007 (UTC)Reply
I agree with Fabu-Vinny on what's important. Who knows if there will be a different "avatar" for the Super Smash Bros. Brawl Pokémon Trainer. I think we need to add an anchor to the SSBB section on the link to the Red article. --Johans 17:39, 12 November 2007 (UTC)Reply
I think we should just wait to see if Leaf and Blue get included in this. TTEchidna 01:04, 13 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Eye contact rule

Haven't there been numerous instances where this does not occur? Here is a list of times I can find:

  • HGSS: Going to the house of the trainer of the opposite gender (the one with Marill) and looking strainght at them
  • All: Looking directly at already-beaten trainers
  • GenIV: Going to the Union Room and talking to a trainer there; you have the option of battling, but you don't have to
  • All(?): Going up to the Gym Leader - the battle takes place if you press A, if they haven't been defeated.
  • Battle Tower: Selecting a partner trainer for the Double Battle Tower

...and the list goes on, not just in the games. The Anime doesn't seem to follow this rule at all. However, I don't know how the rule should instead be written. In any case, the trainers who use that rule are partially mistaken. --TruePikachu 02:45, 16 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Trainers Speculation

Ok, so we conclude that most trainers appears in 2D in battle. Does anyone believe that the next Generation VI game might display all trainers in 3D instead of the 2D drawing? - unsigned comment from Luinceañera (talkcontribs)

What? How should we know? That's up to Game Freak to decide. And sign your comments with four tildes. Ataro (talk) 10:14, 20 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Appearance section

This section can shown the characters with the title as Red and others in the main gameplay? --HoopsterJohn (talk) 20:33, 8 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

An example:

Red's sprite from
Generation II
Brendan's sprite from
Ruby and Sapphire
May's sprite from
Ruby and Sapphire
Wally's sprite from
Generation III
Brendan's sprite from
Emerald
May's sprite from
Emerald
Red's overworld sprite from
Generation II
Brendan's overworld sprite from
Ruby and Sapphire
May's overworld sprite from
Ruby and Sapphire
Wally's overworld sprites from
Generation III
Brendan's overworld sprite from
Emerald
May's overworld sprites from
Emerald

Only better with all including the former Straiton Gym Leaders in B2W2, AZ and Emma in X and Y. --HoopsterJohn (talk) 20:30, 9 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Considering how much artwork there is just from player character's alone this would be pretty cluttered. Since this is a page about trainers in general, having an appearance section that's just player characters and some amount of NPCs, it would be pretty pointless. --It's Funktastic~!話してください 20:52, 9 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
At least can added in the as Trainer Class section the former Straiton Gym Leaders, AZ and Emma in the text? --HoopsterJohn (talk) 19:03, 10 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

Sections for trainers not in other classes

We need to add a specific PKMN/Pokémon Trainer section for Trainers who don't fit in other classes, such as Cal and Carrie. They aren't listed anywhere in the main article and they're only known as PKMN Trainers.Blob55 (talk) 19:16, 21 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

I'm not sure what you're thinking when you want a section on this page for them, but I don't know if a dedicated section here is really the best. If anything, I kind of feel like just putting a category on their pages would be better, or even possibly a whole new page that's "Pokemon Trainer (Trainer class)". Tiddlywinks (talk) 19:36, 21 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
There is a dedicated section for them, but I like the idea of a separate page. --SnorlaxMonster 20:00, 21 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
That's what I meant, SnorlaxMonster, but actually listing ALL trainers under PKMN/Pokémon Trainer. Instead just the Rivals, Stat Trainers, Team Plasma Leaders and PWT opponents. There are various GSC opponents listed nowhere in this document. It's hard to know where all the Trainers are in the games, if not all of them are listed in the right sections. Blob55 (talk) 00:01, 30 July 2014 (UTC)Reply
Can we please fix it so that the Pokémon Trainer page lists all Trainers under PKMN/Pokémon Trainer? Not everyone has a specific trainer class name. Also, listing some in general isn't good enough. Blob55 (talk) 11:24, 13 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

Generation VII new Trainer classes list clogged

The list of Trainer classes introduced in Generation VII has clogged the rest of the Pokémon Trainer page and within the orange box continues from the Super Smash Bros. series section to the end of the page. After the list was added, the rest of the page got caught in the box. This has to be fixed. --Cinday123 (Talk) 07:17, 9 December 2016 (UTC)Reply

Psychic/Proprietor Inver

In X and Y, a trainer on Route 18 can be fought to do an inverse battle. On the actual page for inverse battles, he is referred to as a Psychic, but in game and on his own page he is referred to under the trainer class Proprietor, which is not listed here. Given that he still uses the Psychic sprite and is the only trainer of this trainer class, I'm debating on if this should go here or not. --DoneAndSaid (talk) 11:59, 27 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Probably best to leave it off the list of Trainer classes introduced. Inver uses both Proprieter and Psychic depending on if you are playing ORAS or XY. However, given he uses the Psychic class sprite, it is better to just leave them listed as a Psychic type trainer. Frozen Fennec 12:21, 27 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Rename "Trainer class" to "Trainer type"

In Pokémon Platinum, HeartGold, and SoulSilver, the term "Trainer type" (トレーナータイプ) is used to refer to the teams organized by the player's selected appearance in the Trainer Rankings at the Global Terminal (such School Kid♂, Lass, Bug Catcher, Battle Girl, Ace Trainer♂, Beauty, etc.). "TRTYPE" is also used as the internal codename for the text files containing Trainer class names in the Nintendo Switch games, with the data for BDSP writing it out as "Trainers_Type". I'd like to propose using the term "Trainer type" instead of "Trainer class" in most cases.

I'll note that the names of Trainer classes appear to specifically be called "titles" (肩書き), both for the ones on a Battle Pass in Pokémon Battle Revolution, for the ones in the Pokégear in HeartGold and SoulSilver, and for the ones on a Trainer Card in Generation V. There's also some NPC dialogue that uses this word to describe the Rich Boy, Ace Trainer, or Champion titles. This appears to be somewhat independent of the actual appearance of the Trainer, since in PBR the Trainer's appearance is customized independently from the Trainer title. I don't know if there's anywhere where such a distinction would be useful, though.

--Abcboy (talk) 04:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)Reply

I think splitting off Trainer type as its own page would be a good extension of this. Landfish7 03:46, 6 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Ok admittedly this page is actually pretty short without that content though. Landfish7 02:21, 8 October 2024 (UTC)Reply