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:She gives you a Revive. Anticlimactic, I know. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 20:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
:She gives you a Revive. Anticlimactic, I know. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 20:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
== Mirage Mail ==
As far as I know, Mirage Mail can only be obtained by Pokémon Pikachu 2 GS, trading 9999 watts for it. It is not given by Mystery Gift. --[[User:.Maguss.|.Maguss.]] 05:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:Okay...that's cool.  Pokémon Pikachu 2 GS?  Good luck trying to get it that way...it won't work...only mystery gift.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|<font color="brown"><small><sup>☆</sup></small></font>]][[User:Tavisource|<font color="teal">Tavis</font>]][[User talk:Tavisource|<font color="gray"><small>ource</small></font>]] 05:25, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::Why not? It gives to you Miracleberries and Rare Candies, so why not just a Mirage Mail? Even though there are informations that you can obtain Mirage Mail though Mystery Gift, I'm pretty sure that these informations are false. It is very easy for someone that don't know how to obtain some item to say that it is obtained though Mystery Gift, specially when this item isn't really usefull (same goes for Bluesky Mail). There are some evidences that this item is obtained though the Pokémon Pikachu 2. The first one is that the tables with Mystery Gift items never list Mirage Mail. You'll never know if it is a common item or rare item. The second evidence is that the fact some sites lists Mirage Mail as a item obtained though Pokemon Pikachu 2, with 9999 watts. Even though the great amount of sites don't list this, I don't think a people would make this false rumor using a item that no one really cares, as Mail items are just unusefull in Generation II.--[[User:.Maguss.|.Maguss.]] 17:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::You get items from PP2GS via Mystery Gift...--'''[[User:Prmatt11|<span style="color:#FE2E9A">''Mew''</span>]]<span class="explain" title="Prmatt11 or Mew are my ONLY names!">*</span> [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]'''at 21:46, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Yes, but not though the common GBC to GBC way. IF the way is PP2GS to GBC, and need watts for it, it should be informed. BTW, I just found an information that only 999 watts can be transfered to the GBC, so the information of 9999 watts is probably false (probably cause Pikachu can carry more than 999 watts). Anyway, the information that Mirage Mail is obtained though the common GBC to GBC way of Mirage Mail is probably false, due to the fact that none of the tables with Mistery Gift items lists it as a item that can be obtained.--[[User:.Maguss.|.Maguss.]] 23:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
== Hipster in Mauville (referenced here) ==
I'm trying to get berries from the Berry Master's Wife and I'm missing some words from the available list.
Needed:
Great Battle, Challenge Contest, Overwhelming Latias, Cool Latios, Super Hustle
Missing:
Contest, Latias, Latios, Super
So I was able to get one berry (Spelon). Looking things over it seemed that '''if the Hipster adds words to the list''', he may be the key to getting the berries. If there is another known solution to the "missing word problem" (Ruby/Sapphire), please let me know and we can update the pedia. Thanks.
==Suggestion==
Should this page give examples of the actual appearance of the mail when read? The small item sprites don't really give a good feel for it. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 15:27, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
:No one's responded to my suggestion, so I've gone ahead and pursued the idea. I now have images of all of the mail from Gen IV. Should I upload them, and if so, how should they be incorporated into the page? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:54, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
== New Words for HG/SS ==
It's missing on the description of both Generation II and IV where we can get more words for the vocabulary in HeartGold and SoulSilver. Anyone knows already? -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]] ([[User talk:Pro-mole|<small>Talk here</small>]]) 15:16, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's in a house on Route 16. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 18:23, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
== Gen II and III mail images ==
Alright, now that we've got an image gallery of Gen IV mail, it's time to tackle phase 2 of the updating of this page. I'm lost as to where I can find images of mail from Generations II and III (Serebii has them, but I've been around long enough to know not to steal Serebii's images.
Do we have anyone with the know how to rip images of that mail for this page to use? Help would be much appreciated! --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 13:20, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
== Utility of the Mails ==
The Mails are not useless. They protect the holder from Trick/Switcheroo (even if the holder itself has used the move). --[[User:Metang|Metang]] 21:34, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:Cool. I'll put that on the page. The next time you write on a talk page, don't put line breaks before you sign your name. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 08:32, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
::Ok. --[[User:Metang|Metang]] 14:35, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Actually, they still are useless. Trick and Switcheroo are attacks involving held items, and having mail is like not having a held item. And besides, Trick and Switcheroo are used extremely rarely in competitive battles anyway (it's much easier and faster to just kill the opponent). [[User:InMooseWeTrust|InMooseWeTrust]] 21:25, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Competencies battling is irrelevant. And the fact that they are different to holding other items is their effect. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:03, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
== Trivia ==
*In Generation V, all "BrigdeMail" types correspond to the bridges in the Unova region except for the [[Marine Tube]].
BridgeMail T – [[Tubeline Bridge]]<br>
BridgeMail D – [[Driftveil Drawbridge]]<br>
BridgeMail S – [[Skyarrow Bridge]]<br>
BridgeMail V – [[Village Bridge]]<br>
BridgeMail M – [[Marvelous Bridge]]
<br>– [[User:AwesomeDJPokemon|AwesomeDJPokemon]] ([[User talk:AwesomeDJPokemon|talk]]) 15:20, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
== Stadium 2 Mail Screenshots ==
Because I couldn't upload the images to archives I might as well as to put samples here.
[https://www.dropbox.com/s/st4d9762ff177mu/Flower%20mail%20Stadium2.jpg?dl=0 Flower Mail]
[https://www.dropbox.com/s/9yjqt1scvtcsgrj/Surf%20mail%20Stadium2.jpg?dl=0 Surf Mail]
Let me know what Bulbapedia think.--[[User:Bluetails|Bluetails]] ([[User talk:Bluetails|talk]]) 11:04, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
===Upload Request===
Could Someone help me upload [https://www.dropbox.com/s/hqm6z6wnxz32saw/Flower%20mail%20Stadium2.png?dl=0 Flower Mail] [https://www.dropbox.com/s/gorjmy3l8jkqwuz/Morphmail%20Stadium2.png?dl=0 Morph Mail] [https://www.dropbox.com/s/hfjyd98mypb0mn2/Surf%20mail%20Stadium2.png?dl=0 Surf Mail] for me please?--[[User:Bluetails|Bluetails]] ([[User talk:Bluetails|talk]]) 08:09, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
== Split ==
It appears there's the suggestion to split this article into individual mail item pages like "Air Mail", "Bloom Mail", "Brick Mail", etc. This split template was [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Mail&diff=prev&oldid=3790229 added] a few months ago, in September 2023.
I imagine that each of those individual mail item articles would at least have its own specific item sprite image and mail background image. The acquisition location and the in-game item description is also different for each mail item. They would also have the "In other languages" section listing all the international names for the specific mail item covered. I also wonder if any individual mail articles may or may not have any kind of trivia section in the future.
On the other hand, it seems that all mail items would have exactly the same content for the "Effect" section for a given generation. This section appears to be currently written like this:
* (Generation II) "Causes the secondary effect of Thief to fail when used on holder. Pokémon holding this cannot be placed in the PC."
* (Generation III) "Causes the secondary effect of Thief and Covet to fail when used on holder. Pokémon holding this cannot be placed in the PC."
* (Generation IV) "Causes the secondary effect of Thief and Covet to fail when used on holder. Causes Trick and Switcheroo to fail when used by or on the holder. Causes Fling to fail when used by holder. Pokémon holding this cannot be placed in the PC."
* (Generation V) "Causes the secondary effect of Thief and Covet to fail when used on holder. Causes Trick and Switcheroo to fail when used by or on the holder. Causes Fling and Bestow to fail when used by holder. Pokémon holding this cannot be placed in the PC."
As we know, the Mail page currently also has a long and detailed "Mechanics" section, explaining all those things like character limits, how to unlock phrases, and the connection with the Game Boy Printer. I think we can agree that all those individual item pages like "Air Mail" and "Bloom Mail" can simply link back to the Mail page for the explanation about mechanics (instead of repeating all the detailed mechanics in each mail item page).
We would probably need a new category like "Category:Mail" for those mail pages. Additionally, we can have a navigation template at the bottom listing all the individual mail pages. You know, like how [[Blue Scarf]] has the template linking to the other contest-related scarf pages. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 11:08, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
:Done. The individual Mail item articles were created. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 11:13, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 11:13, 23 April 2024

Question about the FRLG-only mail

What happens if you make a Pokémon hold it, and then trade it to RS? By "it", I mean the Retro, Fab and Dream Mail. Tina 19:06, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

All mail obtained from FireRed/LeafGreen is programmed into Ruby/Sapphire. The mail will make it to the other side intact. --Shiningpikablu252 19:24, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Eon Mail

What do you get if you give the lady in goldenrod pokemon centre this? In Crystal her daughter wants it. TeePee-20.7 17:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

She gives you a Revive. Anticlimactic, I know. IIMarckus 20:53, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Mirage Mail

As far as I know, Mirage Mail can only be obtained by Pokémon Pikachu 2 GS, trading 9999 watts for it. It is not given by Mystery Gift. --.Maguss. 05:14, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay...that's cool. Pokémon Pikachu 2 GS? Good luck trying to get it that way...it won't work...only mystery gift.--Tavisource 05:25, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Why not? It gives to you Miracleberries and Rare Candies, so why not just a Mirage Mail? Even though there are informations that you can obtain Mirage Mail though Mystery Gift, I'm pretty sure that these informations are false. It is very easy for someone that don't know how to obtain some item to say that it is obtained though Mystery Gift, specially when this item isn't really usefull (same goes for Bluesky Mail). There are some evidences that this item is obtained though the Pokémon Pikachu 2. The first one is that the tables with Mystery Gift items never list Mirage Mail. You'll never know if it is a common item or rare item. The second evidence is that the fact some sites lists Mirage Mail as a item obtained though Pokemon Pikachu 2, with 9999 watts. Even though the great amount of sites don't list this, I don't think a people would make this false rumor using a item that no one really cares, as Mail items are just unusefull in Generation II.--.Maguss. 17:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
You get items from PP2GS via Mystery Gift...--Mew* a.k.a. Prmatt11at 21:46, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but not though the common GBC to GBC way. IF the way is PP2GS to GBC, and need watts for it, it should be informed. BTW, I just found an information that only 999 watts can be transfered to the GBC, so the information of 9999 watts is probably false (probably cause Pikachu can carry more than 999 watts). Anyway, the information that Mirage Mail is obtained though the common GBC to GBC way of Mirage Mail is probably false, due to the fact that none of the tables with Mistery Gift items lists it as a item that can be obtained.--.Maguss. 23:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Hipster in Mauville (referenced here)

I'm trying to get berries from the Berry Master's Wife and I'm missing some words from the available list.

Needed: Great Battle, Challenge Contest, Overwhelming Latias, Cool Latios, Super Hustle

Missing: Contest, Latias, Latios, Super

So I was able to get one berry (Spelon). Looking things over it seemed that if the Hipster adds words to the list, he may be the key to getting the berries. If there is another known solution to the "missing word problem" (Ruby/Sapphire), please let me know and we can update the pedia. Thanks.

Suggestion

Should this page give examples of the actual appearance of the mail when read? The small item sprites don't really give a good feel for it. --AndyPKMN 15:27, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

No one's responded to my suggestion, so I've gone ahead and pursued the idea. I now have images of all of the mail from Gen IV. Should I upload them, and if so, how should they be incorporated into the page? --AndyPKMN 14:54, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

New Words for HG/SS

It's missing on the description of both Generation II and IV where we can get more words for the vocabulary in HeartGold and SoulSilver. Anyone knows already? -- Professional Mole (Talk here) 15:16, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

It's in a house on Route 16. --AndyPKMN 18:23, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Gen II and III mail images

Alright, now that we've got an image gallery of Gen IV mail, it's time to tackle phase 2 of the updating of this page. I'm lost as to where I can find images of mail from Generations II and III (Serebii has them, but I've been around long enough to know not to steal Serebii's images. Do we have anyone with the know how to rip images of that mail for this page to use? Help would be much appreciated! --AndyPKMN 13:20, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Utility of the Mails

The Mails are not useless. They protect the holder from Trick/Switcheroo (even if the holder itself has used the move). --Metang 21:34, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Cool. I'll put that on the page. The next time you write on a talk page, don't put line breaks before you sign your name. —darklordtrom 08:32, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Ok. --Metang 14:35, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Actually, they still are useless. Trick and Switcheroo are attacks involving held items, and having mail is like not having a held item. And besides, Trick and Switcheroo are used extremely rarely in competitive battles anyway (it's much easier and faster to just kill the opponent). InMooseWeTrust 21:25, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Competencies battling is irrelevant. And the fact that they are different to holding other items is their effect. --SnorlaxMonster 07:03, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Trivia

  • In Generation V, all "BrigdeMail" types correspond to the bridges in the Unova region except for the Marine Tube.

BridgeMail T – Tubeline Bridge
BridgeMail D – Driftveil Drawbridge
BridgeMail S – Skyarrow Bridge
BridgeMail V – Village Bridge
BridgeMail M – Marvelous Bridge
AwesomeDJPokemon (talk) 15:20, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Stadium 2 Mail Screenshots

Because I couldn't upload the images to archives I might as well as to put samples here. Flower Mail Surf Mail Let me know what Bulbapedia think.--Bluetails (talk) 11:04, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Upload Request

Could Someone help me upload Flower Mail Morph Mail Surf Mail for me please?--Bluetails (talk) 08:09, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Split

It appears there's the suggestion to split this article into individual mail item pages like "Air Mail", "Bloom Mail", "Brick Mail", etc. This split template was added a few months ago, in September 2023.

I imagine that each of those individual mail item articles would at least have its own specific item sprite image and mail background image. The acquisition location and the in-game item description is also different for each mail item. They would also have the "In other languages" section listing all the international names for the specific mail item covered. I also wonder if any individual mail articles may or may not have any kind of trivia section in the future.

On the other hand, it seems that all mail items would have exactly the same content for the "Effect" section for a given generation. This section appears to be currently written like this:

  • (Generation II) "Causes the secondary effect of Thief to fail when used on holder. Pokémon holding this cannot be placed in the PC."
  • (Generation III) "Causes the secondary effect of Thief and Covet to fail when used on holder. Pokémon holding this cannot be placed in the PC."
  • (Generation IV) "Causes the secondary effect of Thief and Covet to fail when used on holder. Causes Trick and Switcheroo to fail when used by or on the holder. Causes Fling to fail when used by holder. Pokémon holding this cannot be placed in the PC."
  • (Generation V) "Causes the secondary effect of Thief and Covet to fail when used on holder. Causes Trick and Switcheroo to fail when used by or on the holder. Causes Fling and Bestow to fail when used by holder. Pokémon holding this cannot be placed in the PC."

As we know, the Mail page currently also has a long and detailed "Mechanics" section, explaining all those things like character limits, how to unlock phrases, and the connection with the Game Boy Printer. I think we can agree that all those individual item pages like "Air Mail" and "Bloom Mail" can simply link back to the Mail page for the explanation about mechanics (instead of repeating all the detailed mechanics in each mail item page).

We would probably need a new category like "Category:Mail" for those mail pages. Additionally, we can have a navigation template at the bottom listing all the individual mail pages. You know, like how Blue Scarf has the template linking to the other contest-related scarf pages. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 11:08, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Done. The individual Mail item articles were created. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 11:13, 23 April 2024 (UTC)