Bulbapedia talk:Project Merchandise

Proposal

I realise this project is highly inactive, and I personally don't have the knowledge to advance it BUT it would make sense to rebrand it as "Project Merchandise" because some stuff is out on a limb here. Are there going to be any overwhelming "no"'s? Or perhaps you have a better idea. I want to hear it. —darklordtrom 20:53, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

I was sorta thinking the same thing the other day. Not quite all of the random merchandise is quite considered "toys"... like the board games 'n' stuff. I'm not on this project either (:P) but I would support a name change. ZestyCactus 21:06, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, this is more inactive than the Project itself. Let's just get on with it.

Oh, and this is going to incorporate the wannabe-Project Books. So all you bibliophiles get on over here ;) —darklordtrom 21:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Just wondering, are stubs supposed to get the Project Merchandise notice? Turtwig A Contributions Talk 21:51, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. They're still articles under the Project. —darklordtrom 22:04, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Pokémon Champion Island

Is there any need for an article on the Pokémon Champion Island Board Game?--♫Green♫ギャラドス♫Talk♫ 03:03, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Of course. Check we don't have it first; there are a few articles on board games already but I'm not sure if we have that specific one. —darklordtrom 03:06, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

I couldn't find anything on it...--♫Green♫ギャラドス♫Talk♫ 03:08, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Go for it then. —darklordtrom 03:35, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Books

Should appearances in books like Talent Showdown and Race to Danger be included in the Pokémon's pages. I'm asking this because Gary had a Blastoise, Charizard, and Venusaur in Talent Showdown which was well before The Ties That Bind. Turtwig A Contributions Talk 00:58, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

That might be worth a trivia note. Like "In the chapter book Race to Danger, an original story based on the anime, Gary was shown as having a Venusaur etc" ZestyCactus 01:01, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, he also had a Rhydon, an Exeggutor, and an Alakazam.-- Iron ICE (User:Cold)^{(page, talk)} 01:01, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

We could just put on the Talent Showdown article and the Race to Danger article. Turtwig A Contributions Talk 01:12, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

To-do list

Is it okay if I merge the two to-do lists together into "Bulbapedia:Project Merchandise/to-do list" so things that fall under this project that aren't toys or books can be included? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 13:13, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Steph's Somewhat Awkwardly-formatted Question

I have (or have available to me) several Pokémon Reader books. They are small, big-colorful-picture-laden books that are not quite chapter books and are published by Scholastic and adapted by Tracey West. As far as I know of, there are not articles for them or even a list of their titles. Should one be made or is there a list provided that I may have missed? Additionally, I am aware that my 'signature' or similar concept is in incorrect formatting. User: Steph, November 16

For your signature, just put this:~~~~. For those books, are they like this or this? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 02:56, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Turtwig A. You are helpful and I am rather grateful to you for extensively editing my first (if rather lengthy, which I do not know if it is a good or bad thing) article, an animé synopsis. Returning back on topic, well, no. Neither of them are like those---I know, for I have a collection of the series, including those particular titles. There are actually several Pokemon Reader books (or should I say booklets, for length?), and I happen to possess--oh, perhaps three. There are actually other titles, Diamond and Pearl ones, released by Scholastic (via school order) recently. Since they are a fairly prominent (if somewhat obscure) piece of literature merchandise, it would make sense to make an article about them. As for my other book, The Complete Pokémon Pocket Guide (Book 2), I think it is a one-off. Oddly, the sub-title on the front page says 'Viz Kids edition', and I am somewhat surprised as I thought Viz had jettisoned Pokémon. Steph 03:37, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

There is an article on The Complete Pokémon Pocket Guide series. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 03:47, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I was just about to address that matter, seeing that the article was already there, but you do type quickly. Is any further information needed for that article, such as a blurb, or can we presume that it is complete? Additionally, some of the statements in the entries in the book are not verified by game Pokédex entries or other media, such as the statement that Infernape's flames cannot be extinguished as long as it is alive. Is it correct to presume that the information presented is suitable for inclusion into species pages, or is it not official enough to do so? - unsigned comment from Steph (talk • contribs)

The article is far from complete. It would be great if you would add a blurb and also put that information on that page. Though I can't say if it can go on the species page as that is a question for the admins. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 03:58, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I have added the blurb and trivia (honestly? Swampert, at a measly 14.3 pounds, can tow a large ship? It could hardly tow a canoe like that!). I shall further analyze the entries in it to determine if the information actually differs much beyond rewording to dignify consulting the administrators.Steph 04:17, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 23:47, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Should

the episodes which books are based on be in the episode articles? Like on the EP001 page, we would put "The book I Choose You! is based on this episode. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 01:28, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I think that would make sense, as long as it is in a streamlined manner. Perhaps in the Trivia Section (at the bottom of the section of the episode) it could be listed that a book involves its events. Steph 01:33, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Exactly where I think we should put it. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 01:34, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

If you haven't done that yet, go for it. (Also, Steph: you can indent your comment by putting a colon (:) in front of it. That makes it easier to read, so please do it) —darklordtrom 06:09, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

How about this? To not make this comment completely pointless, I will state that I shall try adding a link to the episode page to the book page, if not done so alrady. Also, I have recently been working on making the Synopsis to Prize Pokémon. As I take a long time to make synopsises, I am only on the Grin to Win portion currently. No wonder synopsises are lacking on Bulbapedia, they are long, tedious, and not nearly as fun to type as other kinds of edits and contributions. - unsigned comment from Steph (talk • contribs)

You could always put {{Inuse}} on it and make several edits. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 22:32, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Just wondering, should it be on pages which have the same name as the book too? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 03:38, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Example? —darklordtrom 10:09, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Island of the Giant Pokémon. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 12:22, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm still not entirely sure what you mean. I think that, yes, it should be said on the EP017 article that "a section of the book Island of the Giant Pokémon was based on this episode." If you're asking if we should note that the two texts share the same name, then that's fairly obvious, isn't it? —darklordtrom 09:11, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Pokémon playing cards

should there be an article on the Pokémon playing cards? They are different from the Trading Cards and I think there are only cards for Generation I Pokémon. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 00:12, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Also, there are three decks that I know of, one red, one blue, and one green. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 22:34, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Such a typical colorscheme. Go for it. —darklordtrom 21:19, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

OMG there's a green one too? XD I have the blue and red ones, I can help with an article. Has one even been made yet? ZestyCactus 03:14, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I made one here. And yes, there is a green one. It is the one which has Mewtwo. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 03:16, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

New article

I've started a new article, Pokémon annual. Any help with improving it would be greatly appreciated! Taromon 12:59, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Pokémon Diamond & Pearl Sticker Collection

should the Pokémon Diamond & Pearl Sticker Collection (ISBN 0-7566-3517-9) get an article? It has categorizes Pokémon according to their type, and also tells what the types are strong and weak against. The book also tells the Pokémon's height and weight. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 13:31, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Should it? - unsigned comment from Turtwig A (talk • contribs)

New rule for this project: if in doubt, create the page anyway. If it can be determined afterwards to be non-notable, then we'll delete it. —darklordtrom 20:47, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Board games

would board games fall under the toys to-do list? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 15:32, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Yep. —darklordtrom 08:25, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

creating new article

I know that the message said that if in doubt, I should create the page anyway. But since this is a very special case, should Pokémon merchandise itself get an article? It seems very notable, as that's what the game cartridges, TCG cards, and TFG figures basically fall under (I mean that they are types of merchandise). I've started something in this userpage, if anyone's interested. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 02:56, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Yes!!! There is not enough info on this. I would really like to see more. Your article on your page is good to!! Mudkipluvr4ever 03:14, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Wow. Amazing job, Turtwig A (and those who collaborated). I've moved it to the mainspace. Keep working on it though. Now that's it's mainspaced more people should see it and help. —darklordtrom 06:27, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Upcoming HG/SS Game Guides

One thing I would like to inform this project about in regards to the game guides for HeartGold and SoulSilver is that Prima Games will be releasing two guides in the same fashion as they had with Diamond and Pearl. Pretty much just like before it will be the general walkthrough followed with the book containing the individual Pokémon details. Also I should point out is that that I confirmed these facts with both the official website and Amazon where here are the official links for Book 1 and Book 2 and note the second book will be released on April 20th. Only the official cover for the first book is available at their website. -Tyler53841 02:06, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

inconsistency

Steph has recently noticed the inconsistency between the opening paragraphs of the book articles. There are around 5 different phrases for each one, so which one should be used? I Choose You!, Splashdown in Cerulean City and Ash Ketchum, Pokémon Detective are some examples of these differences. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 02:15, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Speaking of books, Turtwig A has also noted that authors should have their own category, considering that, since there is eleven of them, they would compose almost half of the people category. Steph 18:41, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I'll get on the category ASAP. There's enough authors that it wouldn't be redundant. I also agree that the book opening blurb is really inconsistent, there's practically one for each editor. I personally like the Ash Ketchum, Pokémon Detective blurb best. --ZestyCactus 02:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Should a vote be taken? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 03:13, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Another thing, what about the notability rules of authors or publishers? I think that authors should get an article if they've written more than 2 books. I think publishers that published more than 4 books should get an article. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 03:25, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

I would agree with you, Turtwig A. Additionally, perhaps a standard for author pages should be made? (Intro-Bibliography-Tags, at the least) I have added Bibliography sections to Author articles--as to be more official, like the well-developed author article for Tracey West--so, I was wondering if an official standard for author pages should be made, if needed. Then again, as Tracey West's article is exemplary, this could be used as a standard, but I was wondering about the proper way to format those articles.

Also, since page number seems to be relevant, should the inclusion of a book's page number be limited only to the Pokémon anime novelization series, or should it be included to other series as well? (such as Pokémon Reader and Pokémon Jr.) Steph 03:33, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, let's take all of this step by step. Let's vote on how a book article should be opened. 1, 2, or 3. I'll have my vote later--haven't decided which one I prefer yet. It's now midnight for me, so the vote is officially open until midnight tomorrow. Virtual-Z 03:30, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

I think I shall vote for opening 1 (the one for I Choose You!) as I think it is the most comparatively fluid approach (it uses a comma) to the information. Were we meant to take votes on this page, or otherwise? Steph 03:44, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

There is also a 4. I'll vote for 2. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 13:06, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, Steph, this page. Also, yeah, include #4 in the vote. #2 would be my vote, but I think the last two sentences should be combined. Virtual-Z 19:06, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I like #4 the best, personally. --ZestyCactus 19:15, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

I prefer the Splashdown one. #2. CuboneKing 23:37, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I vote for #2, but we'll combine the last two sentences. To make it flow better. Virtual-Z 01:28, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

1. 2 wins in a fair vote. Is everyone fine with combining the last two sentences? Virtual-Z 04:01, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I would be fine with combining the last two sentences---commas are admirable (the reason for my original vote, as my vote's paragraph possessed commas---I was not aware there were apparently alternatives to add commas there).

As for the To-do List, book-wise, for Project Merchandise: Should the inclusion of a book's page number be limited only to the Pokémon anime novelization series, or should it be included in other series as well? Although the answer will probably be yes, should it be limited to (this is using some disembodied logic here...) fiction Pokémon books? (Chapter books) Steph 04:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I think that every book, fiction or not, should have the page count included in its article. Virtual-Z 20:15, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Should there be a vote, or can it be presumed that your opinion has decided the matter and I should thus work on adding page counts? Steph 21:17, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

(resetting indent) I believe it is relevant. Let's say that one wants to read a short Pokémon book. They look at the article of book Y and see that it is X pages long, which is shorter than the rest. They now know that that is the book they want to read. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 21:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, that's three who want it. That's enough for me to give it the green light. Virtual-Z 21:48, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Who is going to change them now that it has been decided? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 23:22, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I shall try adding page counts to the articles for the books in my possession. Zesty Cactus may also be able to help. (for the first non-anime novelization series book I have added a page count to, check The Complete Pokémon Pocket Guide) Steph 23:28, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Since no one answered, I'll go do it myself soon. Anyways, what will the next step be? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 23:26, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I can add page counts to some of the randomer books that I've added. As for what's next, Mudkipluvr4ever pointed out that the blurb is before the summary in some chapter book articles and after the summary in others. So we should pick one and stick with it. ^^' I vote for "before summary", idk what you folks think. --ZestyCactus 23:35, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I was just about to mention the matter of the blurbs, actually, although I would also state that some blurbs for books are not italicized (so should proper formatting for blurb placement be made?) I agree with you, Zesty Cactus, in that I would think the blurbs should be before the synopsises. Steph 23:41, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Blurbs should be italicised because they're direct quotes from the backs of the books. If you see a blurb that isn't italicised, please italicise it. ;) --ZestyCactus 23:44, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I vote above. It'll give a plot without spoilers, so one doesn't have to go look at the synopsis and realize later that there was a blurb. There should also have line breaks where they are in the back of the book if they are direct quotes. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 00:23, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Want me to change them to above? I can if you want. Anyways, thinks for clearing that up, it was confusing me. Mudkipluvr4ever 00:27, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Not the placement yet. Everything else is okay. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 00:40, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I vote above. CuboneKing 00:46, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I think we all want the blurb to go above, so is it decided yet? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 21:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Danone Pokémon Cards

Anyone Canadian here ever seen those Pokémon cards distributed with Danone yogurt products back in 2000? They were a set of 40, and it featured some Pokémon and with tips on the back for Pokémon Stadium. I just recently dug up a collection of those cards, although I don't have all of them. Would this warrant an article, as I'm not sure if this counts as "merchandise". I could scan the cards I have if so. Also, this website has the full collection if no has an idea of what I'm talking about: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pokemon-paradijs.com%2Fverzamelkaarten%2Fdanone.php&sl=nl&tl=en —♥ Jello 22:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I think it is notable. It would probably fall under merchandise as the other Pokémon things packaged with food are in the project. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 22:44, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, they're fine for an article. I'd much rather you scan them rather than use images from another site. All of them would be great, or you can do just a few or one. Virtual-Z 22:56, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I have those! Anyways, we have Pokémon Game Tip Cards (Black Diamond) and Pokémon Game Tip Cards (Kellogg) so I don't see why not. I can help out with some scans as well if anyone wants me to, 'cuz I have maybe 10 of these? :D --ZestyCactus 23:47, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

That's great, I also have only 10 of the cards in the collection (Danone #s): 2, 3, 6, 11, 12, 14, 25, 29, 32, 33. I could probably scan these in, probably in the next few days. As for the article, there's some information I don't have so I could use help with that too. —♥ Jello 00:00, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Cool, just start up an article somewhere (stub or userspace) and I can throw in my $0.02 as well. --ZestyCactus 02:35, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Here you go: User:Jello/Sandbox/Danone_Pokemon_Tip_Cards Thank you! —♥ Jello 03:00, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

K I added what I've got and expanded your blurb a little. :) One other thing though - I have two shiny cards that are different and have numbers "1/8" (Venusaur) and "7/8" (Pikachu). What do we do about those? Make a seperate chart? Do we have any idea what the other six are? --ZestyCactus 03:34, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Yeah those "special" cards could probably use a separate chart. The website I listed in the References has the full list, including the extra 8. If you're uploading them, you should probably name them a little differently, "Danone Shiny ___.jpg" or something like that. —♥ Jello 04:42, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

K I added what I've got. There's a comic shop I know near my place which has really random Pokémon stuff, they might have a few more of these (I bought the shiny Pikachu there once) so I'll try and swing by there in the next couple days just to see if he's got any more XD --ZestyCactus 23:37, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

I've finished scanning and uploading whatever I had. We're still missing quite a few cards, hopefully someone else can scan them in. Thanks to those who helped. —♥ Jello 21:28, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I think this is good enough for the mainspace. We've got all the info, we're just missing some scans. --ZestyCactus 06:24, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Go for it, but we can't have empty image links. Use Image:Noimage.gif. Virtual-Z 06:39, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

All-Stars

I've had this for a while. However, I need a way to integrate the box art and release dates in there. I have all of the images on my computer already, as well as the release dates. Any ideas? Virtual-Z 04:48, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Jeez, it got made?? All my work...-_-' Virtual-Z 04:50, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

It was featured on the main page as a "currently needed article" and some guy made like, a one sentence article so I made my own because I had no idea you had started yours first. :S sorry? XD --ZestyCactus 06:19, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Haha, it's no problem of course. I saw it there on the front page all the time, and I was always worried that someone WOULD make it. Sure enough they did! Virtual-Z 15:38, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Pokémon Macaroni

Is there an article on the old and current Pokémon Macaroni and Cheese by Kraft? Mudkipluvr4ever 18:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

No, there would not be one. Unless there is three versions of Kraft Pokémon Macaroni, there seems no reason to make an article connecting all of them. The only Pokémon Macaroni article there is on Bulbapedia now would be the Diamond and Pearl kind, and although I do remember the Johto Pokémon Macaroni, I do not possess the box. Steph 20:29, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

By looking through yahoo images, I found what I think is a Kanto one, with one featuring Squirtle. These three version imply that there may be a Hoenn one. I also found Pokémon popsicles and waffles. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 20:36, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Considering how many foods there apparently are with Pokémon packaging, should an article be made for it, in the fashion of your Pokémon merchandise article? Steph 20:46, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Maybe a template to list them all? I don't know how much information one can put about them in one article; why don't you try making an article about it in your userspace? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 20:50, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

You are right. A template for Pokémon (-themed) food would make more sense than an entire article. Perhaps this should be the way the matter proceeds. Steph 20:54, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Am I the only person who had these before in my childhood? :) I remember back in the hayday we had Pokémon pasta shapes, birthday cakes, gum... do you really think it'd be possible to cover them all considering most went off the shelves over 10 years ago? Maybe you'd have to stick to the products there's already a lot of information on --^{Emp, out} 21:00, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

There's already a pasta article Heinz Pokémon Canned Pasta in Tomato Sauce. We try to make articles for as many as possible. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 21:04, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I suppose if a template is to be made for Pokémon (-themed) food articles, there should be a standard for such. Additionally, since the article for Pokémon All-Stars has been made....I possess a video cassette (or rather its casing...) for a trio of episodes labeled under the 'High Voltage Collection'. Should an article for the 'High Voltage Collection' for the series of these Pokémon video cassettes be made? (since this would be nonstandard merchandise, it has been claimed to be advisable to discuss on the Project Merchandise talk page, as this would be). Steph 21:12, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm not really sure. It's 10% merchandise and 90% anime. The all stars is part of two projects. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 21:17, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, I personally would put it more as 50/50. I`m also all for any Pokemon food article. You can check my userpage; I`ve already made several. Virtual-Z 01:38, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Pokémon Memory

Okay, i also cannot find an article for Pokémon Memory. Would you like me to make one? Mudkipluvr4ever 06:20, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

The board game? As long as you mean the physical one and not the virtual one. Virtual-Z 15:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it is the Board Game. There is no article on it right? If not, I will make it. Mudkipluvr4ever 21:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't think there is. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 21:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

There's not. Go for it. Virtual-Z 21:50, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

series

I have recently noticed that series pages are usually lacking in information. Because of this, I have made an info box for series. It will add some more information to the page and make it more appealing. I was wondering if it is good or if anything else should be added. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 02:48, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it's overly necessary but the final word should go to the Project Leader and active members of the Project. —darklordtrom 08:39, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

As I would be an active member of the Project...I suppose it would make the pages more standard and appealing, although since series pages have not been done before, obviously it would be a tentative approach. Additionally, we are not sure if, how, or the specifics as detailed in such a 'series standard' should be made. But, the fact Project Merchandise implements standards to such an extent does appeal to me. I perceive it as making the articles in Project Merchandise more....proper, official. Making a series infobox might not seem overly necessary, and info boxes seem to not always be needed, but if the information it encompasses can be found or is deemed important enough, it should be implemented. Besides, if it does not work, it can always be removed. In short....I would be inclined for it to be implemented, with the consideration that it will probably not hinder the quality of articles it is in. Steph 16:29, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

I like the idea. I'm all for inxoboxes. Virtual-Z 17:36, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

So should it be moved? For the picture, I think it should be the first book, the last book, or the most known in the fandom.Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 17:18, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Hm, I don't think the most popular one should be there. I think the first one. Virtual-Z 12:23, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

The first one does seem better as it is usually the first book read, although these books can be read in random orders. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 12:43, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Either way I think it should be the first one of the series. How would one be deemed the most popular, anyway? Virtual-Z 18:01, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Z. (cannot bring myself to say Virtual-Z, as I preferred the name Porygon-Z) Since a method to determine the most popular book in the series would be unreliable and probably unprofessional, having the first book in the series featured would make the most sense. Steph 15:57, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

(Old, but I didn't want to start a new topic) I forgot about the template for a while, but I think it is still agreed that the first book would be the image. The link is still above. Anything else needed to be added? Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 15:17, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Become A Pokemon Trainer

Is this it? Maybe they have the image wrong. Anyone know for sure? Virtual-Z 04:06, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

This section is five months old, but that is the book. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 14:32, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Beckett Unoficial Guide To Pokémon 2008 Price Guide

Is there an article for this book? If not should I create it and where would I categorize it? I looked around for it and couldn't find anything? Mudkipluvr4ever 05:13, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

This? Virtual-Z 05:19, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

No, mine is an actual book with info on every Pokémon through the first four generations. It has a purple cover. Mudkipluvr4ever 05:22, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm thinking yes for an article, then. How many other years have this guide, though? Hm...Virtual-Z 06:53, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't know. It is the only one i got. Mudkipluvr4ever 06:55, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Ok, well, why don't you make the article at User:Mudkipluvr4ever/Beckett, and I'll check it out tomorrow as well as check out other years. Bed time for now. Virtual-Z 06:58, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Okay i started it. Not done but good enough for now. Mudkipluvr4ever 20:36, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Is this good enough for an article User:Mudkipluvr4ever/Beckett? I can't figure out what else to add. Mudkipluvr4ever 03:07, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Yep, nice job! I moved it. Virtual-Z 03:47, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Pokémon Diamond and Pearl....Toothbrush

With it being a nonstandard (non-toy, non-book, non food packaging) piece of Merchandise, I ask if I would be able to make an article for Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Toothbrush (since I cannot determine a more befitting title for it), which is an item I have in my possession. I am reluctant to start it as a userspace article, since my High Voltage Collection userspace article has not being going as well as I planned. Steph 15:57, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

I have it too, and I think it's good enough for a page... CuboneKing 15:59, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps an article for all tooth-related products? There's many toothbrushes and pastes around that are Pokemon-themed. Virtual-Z 19:42, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

(It is a happy day for Project Merchandise to know that there is such a thing as Pokémon-themed tootpaste to encompass.) Perhaps the article "Pokemon dental products/merchandise" (which would encompass both toothbrushes and toothpaste, since it might not be nessecary to have individual articles for both) should be made? ("Dental" sounds more professional than "tooth-related" to me) Steph 19:51, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh yes, dental of course, I didn't mean to actually title the article "tooth-related". I say go for it under Pokémon dental products. Even if all you can add is the one toothbrush that you have, I'm sure other people will add more sections. Virtual-Z 11:46, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Er, Z....I made the article, and no person but me has added to it so far. Perhaps you could help? Steph 14:27, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Of course. Do you think this is real? Looks legit, but the Pokemon text being red makes me weary. Virtual-Z 02:58, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

The red text logo is used in the manga published by Chuang Yi. So I believe it's legit. --☆Coolピカチュウ! 03:00, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I knew the but about the manga, but was still sceptical. However, I shortly after found that toothbrush on Amazon, so all is well :). Virtual-Z 03:12, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

I have searched for other Pokémon toothpastes and toothbrushes (and mouthwash and dental floss) listed online, and have been unable to find merchandise not already encompassed in the Pokémon dental products article. So, unless someone finds Pokémon dental products not listed on the sources I have checked, I infer that progression to another list-article---soon as Z arranges things on it---can commence. Steph 01:49, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

References in book articles

Where do you think they should be put? Usually, a website gets referenced once, and covers everything else that would need to be referenced. So do you think that this one reference should go by page number, release date, or what? Virtual-Z 19:02, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I think it should go by release date, since in the infobox, that's the first thing that appears after the ISBN. Also, since the opening description seems to vary a bit, it will help keep the format and layout consistent if it's placed by the date. —♥ Jello 19:22, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Notability standards

So, ummm... Wow. Pencils. Umm... Seriously? And toothbrushes? Pasta and pop-tarts and jelly, oh my! Guys, I'm perfectly fine with having all of this info, but... Shouldn't we put it on big lists with sections instead of giving every damn gift card with a Pokémon figure it's own page? --electAbuzzzz 14:20, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I agree with that reasoning. Perhaps nonstandard merchandise should be put in a list-with-sections arrangement, like Pokémon dental products (or otherwise, if you have other ideas). I do hope that my agreeing with your statement does not invoke your aggravation, ElectAbuzzzz. Steph 14:29, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually, most of the pages are "This thing exists." They should all be comprised into a list: it seems a lot more appropriate, especially since, if I remember correctly, Archaic doesn't like references (all the individual pages have unnecessary references that would not be needed in a list format.) ^Maverick_Nate 15:33, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

I disagree. It would be more efficient, but there is SO much merchandise. The page would be way too big. Virtual-Z 22:39, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

How about different 'list-articles' for different kinds of Pokémon merchandise? Splitting the nonstandard merchandise into multiple, different pages might be easier to implement. For example: Pokémon Cosmetics (lipstick, chapstick, jewelry), Pokémon clothing (shoes, a subsection on 'Ash's hat', shirts) Pokémon/-themed foods (an overview article, which may or may not be necessary, encompassing the fairly well-developed Pokémon-themed food articles) Pokémon party sets/supplies (Party Express's catalog is known to list this), etc.? Lists may be efficient, but considering how....vehemently you differ, Z, an alternative means of organization may need to be found. Steph 01:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Z, this is not an article. It's a sentence. You think one page on all merchandise will be too big? Fine, let's do Steph's idea. Group them up. --electAbuzzzz 15:26, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm not totally against the idea of grouping. I just think it will be very difficult to come up with the article names in which things will be placed. Some fit more than one. And, like I said, the pages will all be huge. Virtual-Z 15:35, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

You are quite right, Z---I am just not able to conjure an alternative that would please both persons---ElectAbuzzzz, who becomes....righteously furious when people apparently put quantity before quality, and you, who knows the facts (not that I would imply ElectAbuzzzz does not know the facts, but it is true that Z participates more in Project Merchandise) of Project Merchandise and infers that, however grouped, such articles or list articles encompassing items not notable enough for individual articles will be big, unwieldy and flawed, and generally not the most practical or optimal. Yes, it will be difficult--we may have to consider all miscellany of nonstandard Merchandise articles, which would certainly take some time, and because some items fit more than one it may need....some originally-designed categorization. Perhaps a prototype could be in a sandbox first? Steph 16:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

I guess we can try that. Time for me to work right now, though. Virtual-Z 17:42, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

I seriously have been thinking about this, but I can not come up with anything else that we do not currently have in place. I would most likely be ok with making a big article for everything similar, such as Pokémon dental products, but the size is what gets me. Pokemon is HUGE. I mean, imagine the FOOD article? The SCHOOL SUPPLIES article? Dental supplies is fine, because I doubt there is ALOT which exists. Quite a few items, yes, but nothing that would make you think "hm, this article is TOO big." Virtual-Z 19:20, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

You are correct, Z. If an article for food merchandise is made, it would indeed be huge. Not that I intend it to be a list article like Pokémon dental products, but rather an 'overview of the group'-type article, like the 'Pokémon merchandise' article. That is, it does not list all the foods, but rather details information about the group instead of its components. (For example: if it could be found what the first Pokémon-themed food was, it may be worth listing there like the number-of-Pokémon-merchandise bit in the Pokémon merchandise article)

For the time being, it would be best to focus on adding information to and improving the Pokémon dental products article, so it can set as an example and standard for the further, proposed 'list-page' article series or otherwise stand comprehensively on its own. Additionally...thank you for adding the picture to the toothpaste section there, that makes it much more standardized.Steph 19:45, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't really think an article about school supplies will be THAT big. We definitely have much bigger pages. --electAbuzzzz 19:46, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh man, we could write an article for school supplies based on everything in my grade 2 classroom and it would be huge. Seriously. And actually, Steph, I would like the food article, and any generalized-merchandise article for that matter, to be list style. I'd like every individual piece of merchandise to be documented. If we have to, I will make these big generalized articles, but I'd want them list style. I don't have a problem with them being so big, but I imagine some people might. As long as it's neat, I'm good. The dental products one is shaping up nicely; it's all in the same style, and divided well. Virtual-Z 19:58, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

I hope you don't mind me butting in. Some of the articles do seem to have enough information to stand on their own so perhaps the lists would contain all pages that are only "this exists" and then all other products with more detailed articles in that type would have a heading on the list which contains only one or two sentences and a link saying "See Main article for more information". Then all the little articles are combined and any that get too detailed can be split off. Anyway that's my 2 cents. Refunds available.--Beligaronia (talk) 20:04, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

In response to Z: You are the professional, Z. Thus, it should continue in the manner you plan. (documenting every piece in list format)

With a summarization of the consummate ideas proposed, the arrangement for these list-articles would consist of an introduction (which could be improved, especially since the terms 'this is a page' seem unprofessional now that it is a real article), sections (the sections in Pokémon dental products are Toothbrush and Toothpaste, etc.), the products themselves, with mentions on the producing companies, the Pokémon featured on the packaging and product, differentiating details between multiple versions, (if there are multiple versions of the same kind), features, and references. In the case that there is actually enough details for a specific product to be considered a seperate article, I support Beligaronia's idea. Steph 20:21, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Reading this through, I'm also in agreement with Bel. This is like what we did for the anime Pokémon articles, I think, and that worked well. —darklordtrom 21:53, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree too. I'm going to make a list of all the articles which we could make that I can think of, and I'll post it by the end of the week. Until then, continue to make articles and edits for this project as you normally would. Hopefully there will be a good few new articles which can be formed into larger pages. I myself made about 20 bookmarks this afternoon of new articles to make. Virtual-Z 22:03, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Wait, if we would have all these lists, would there be a list of lists or at least a template for navigation? ナエトル A or Turtwig A My talk and my contributions 01:05, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

They'd all be in the merchandise category. Virtual-Z 01:09, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

(resetting indent)I 100% support list articles when appropriate. I definitely think the pencils and stuff should be made into one big article, maybe like "Pokémon School Supplies" or "Pokémon Stationery" or w/e. As for the foodstuffs, I think we should make a list article, but link to the main article for pages that actually have some content/development. Similar to what's been suggested for shippings. --ZestyCactus 02:30, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Okay. If we call it "Pokémon stationery", we can include stuff like this as well. We can make redirects for "Pokémon pencils" and what not. As for the food, I'd like to start a page, but I don't know what to call it. Pokémon food is taken... --ZestyCactus 02:36, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, we can probably start a food one now, since we already have many articles on food. However, we'd need subcategories on the page, much like dental products has toothpaste and toothbrushes. Pokémon-themed food, probably. Or Pokémon food products. Virtual-Z 02:46, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Ideas on subcategories for Pokémon food products: Candies/treats (mostly encompassing lollipops, but would, in the 'treats' context, encompass the Popsicles), Breakfast Items (cereal, Pop-tarts) Dinners (macaroni, pasta), Condiments (Parmesan, Ketchup). Steph 03:35, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Nice, I like them. I was thinking of the whole meal thing. You wanna change it? Or will I? Virtual-Z 03:36, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Not quite sure what you mean by 'the whole meal thing'. But, if you mean replacing my proposed 'dinners' section with 'meals', then, yes, that does make more sense. Macaroni is not necessarily a dinner item, the word was only featured on the product's official title. So, yes....if you mean it that way, you could change it. Steph 03:43, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

No no, I meant the way you said they should be sorted into breakfast and dinner. I was thinking that, too. Virtual-Z 03:46, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

You could do that---making 'Meals' a section, and 'Breakfast' and 'Dinner' sub-sections. Although, if the differentiation between them is deemed unneeded, the two could be merged entirely within 'Meals'. Additionally, excellent work on that article (I did not check Recent Changes whilst you were adding to it). I have also found a link to another Pokémon-themed Popsicle product (that is not already encompassed in the article) however, although the picture for the packaging is in English, the words throughout the link are in a foreign language. It is a Pikachu-shaped Popsicle, described as 'Strawberry Lemon Ice with Candy'. Steph 03:53, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

You sure it's not talking about the Pikachu variation of the popsicle we already have? They are strawberry and lemon, too. Virtual-Z 03:56, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

That would probably be it, except for the fact I notice the stock art on the product is too modern to be released at that time (the Pikachu image has chin shading). Since the page actually only details a Pikachu-themed sticker, which was probably included in the box, more information will be needed about the product itself before it is detailed and described in the article. In case you want to find out information about it yourself, the product was described: POPSICLE GOOD HUMOUR ICE CREAM STICKER POKEMON PIKACHU. The title may have been translated, so the official English title should be searched for first. So, until then...perhaps it should be put on the To-do list for Project Merchandise? Steph 04:04, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Do you have the foreign language link? I might be able to work with that. Virtual-Z 04:06, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

This might work. <http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/POPSICLE-GOOD-HUMOR-ICE-CREAM-STICKER-POKEMON-PIKACHU_W0QQitemZ200303768109QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item200303768109> (if the link could best be compressed into the word 'this', or requires editing for proper Bulbapedia formatting, you have my permission to alter its formatting) Steph 05:34, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Nah I don't care if it's compressed here or not. Anyhow, that's definitely a different popsicle. Unless the pack we already have an article on was also sold in boxes for individual characters, but I highly doubt that. I'd title the section Popsicle Pokémon Strawberry & Lemon Ice with Candy. Virtual-Z 05:38, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I found another useful link, Z. <http://www.pokezam.com/pokemon/promotional/?mode=3> Steph 16:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah, that's the link I found to first start creating food articles. Thanks for reminding me of it, though. There's still some stuff there that needs to be added. Virtual-Z 19:37, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Brand Vote

Anyone else think that we should remove the brand name out of every article title which has one? I think we should. Kellogg's Pokémon Eggo Waffles --> Pokémon Eggo Waffles, Kellogg's Pokémon Toasted Oat Cereal with Marshmallow Bits --> Pokémon Toasted Oat Cereal with Marshmallow Bits, etc. The brand is best off mentioned in the actual article, which it usually is anyway. Virtual-Z 00:36, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

The brand should be mentioned enough in the actual articles, so yes, I agree the brand should be dropped from the title itself. Steph 00:59, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't really care either way. I suppose it could be taken out of the actual title unless it's required to disambig (like, say there were two different brands of pokemon gum or something) as brands are pretty much always mentioned in articles anyways. --ZestyCactus 01:03, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Ok, it'll be done. I'm in the middle of a major food edit at the moment, so after. Virtual-Z 01:07, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Puzzles

Is there an article on puzzles? The physical ones, not games. I have two, one for Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea and a Diamond and Pearl one? Would you like me to make articles on my userpage for them? Mudkipluvr4ever 01:40, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

If you want, you can make the future Pokémon puzzles at User:Mudkipluvr4ever/Puzzles. We can definitely use an article for them. Try to follow the same style as Pokémon food products. If it does follow the style and looks good, even with just two puzzles, we'll mainspace it. Let me know if you have any questions. Virtual-Z 01:42, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey I found some pictures but I can't upload them. How do you? It says i don't have permission. Mudkipluvr4ever 04:08, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Go here and upload away. Make sure to have only numbers and letters (NORMAL letters, as in, not é, Ē, etc.) and provide a good description. Virtual-Z 04:09, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

(got conflicted) Go here (the archives) and log in with your Bulbapedia username and password. It *should* link your BP account to the Archives and then you should be allowed to upload pictures. (if that's what you were asking) --ZestyCactus 04:11, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Still won't let me. I don't know why? Do I need permission cause that is wha it says. So sorry for the trouble. Mudkipluvr4ever 04:14, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

You sure you're logged in? Virtual-Z 04:16, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Positive, but my username and talk page do not exist on there, is that why? Mudkipluvr4ever 04:17, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

You exist on the Archives. Just login with your usual username and password, and you're in. I don't know what happened with MergeAccounts, but it's not with me anymore. ^ht14 04:21, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

If I remember correctly, there were some issues with the "global" verification system. R.A. Hunter Blade 04:59, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Okay i figured out how to get them into my computer and put them into the thing on the upload file thing. But it won't let me upload it! Oh, and i found a lot more puzzles. Mudkipluvr4ever 23:19, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

What reason does it give for not letting you upload? Virtual-Z 18:54, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Okay, there are pictures on their now, need help organizing and editing please! Mudkipluvr4ever 04:26, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Colour Scheme Suggestions

Anyone have any suggestions for the colour scheme of our project page? I don't intend to keep it the way it is. Virtual-Z 04:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Aw, really? I liked the grey. Uh... I dunno. We could be lame and go for Red Green Blue and Yellow... XP --ZestyCactus 04:56, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Lol well if enough people think the same way I guess we will keep it like it is. I just figured something brighter would serve better. I'd also like the same colours to go on our userbox and notice; they'd be kind of like our project colours. I don't like the colour scheme of those two things at the moment. Virtual-Z 04:59, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Just wanna bring some more attention from members to this. It's still up for discussion. Virtual-Z 16:09, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Hey there, as a member (new, joined it today) of this project, I would like to share my opinion. Personally, I liked the color of the front page of this project a lot except for one thing. The silver color is a bit overused in the background, so I think something brighter (as VZ said above;some new colors with silver) should be used to reduce that super silvery dark look. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 16:24, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

So you mean the silver that is there the most? Virtual-Z 03:05, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

By silvery, I meant that the darkish look on the main page should be lightened a bit. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 03:12, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Me too sorta. Any specific colour suggestions? Virtual-Z 03:27, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I am not good at these but how about adding a bluish or half whiteIsh (light yellow) touch to the main page? ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 11:11, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Maybe trying a preview for each color that people think should be used? Also, is this for the color of the border or the background? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 13:37, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I have previewed all of the suggestions so far (albeit only 1). Adyniz is talking about the colour of the background, but every colour of current layout can be discussed, also. Virtual-Z 13:41, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

If so, then I do agree with having light yellow as the background color with the current border. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 13:45, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

How light are you guys thinking? What hex? Virtual-Z 14:06, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm talking about hex #FFFFED. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 14:16, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I do agree with TA. It will look great on the project (at least I hope so). ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 16:14, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Geez, with a yellow that light it may as well go white. Not anything a bit more noticeable? Virtual-Z 03:11, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Individual Pokemon merchandise pages?

Hi there, I'm new to Project Merchandise and to Bulbapedia. I've made a few edits around the place and I've created most of the missing pages for each of the Pokémon Junior books (I'll be making the last one when I get home =p). Anyway I have an idea. What if each Pokémon had an individual page listing all the merchandise for it? The TCG Project has a similar thing, listing all the cards for each Pokémon (eg. Squirtle (TCG)). Then on each Pokémon page from Project Pokedex, there could be a link to the main article of the merchandise for that Pokémon (eg. Main article: Squirtle (Merchandise) or something). The page could be broken up into categories like books, plush, figures etc, with each category listing that type of merchandise for the Pokémon. I hope I'm making sense XD I just thought this would be a good idea for collectors of a certain Pokémon to be able to see all the merchandise that Pokémon has.- unsigned comment from moltres93 (talk • contribs)

But what are we going to write in that article? TCGs have a lot of things like power, attacks etc. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 06:28, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

If you look at the Squirtle TCG article I linked in my last post, you can see there isn't really that much information about Squirtle cards. The purpose of the page is more for the list of cards, likewise, a Pokemon Merchandise page would be more for the list of merchandise for a Pokemon rather than a detailed article =) Moltres93 07:34, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it should. Merchandise I think covers the most ground for any project, except for maybe Project Fandom. It is so big they even have a record for having the most Pokémon merchandise. Even if this is a good thing for those articles, who would be willing to go through 12,000+ items of merchandise? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 12:30, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Considering the project aims to eventually have an article on EVERY bit of Pokémon merchandise ever released, a list for each Pokémon would not only be a good way for people to find specific things, but I don't think it would be that difficult either :D As the lists get longer, especially with the more popular Pokémon, the lists could break off into different pages (eg. a page just for Bubasaur plush, Bulbasaur figures etc.). I mean if everyone, after creating a new page for a bit of merchandise, added the link to the Pokémon list, it would be filled up in no time and without too much work from one person =) Moltres93 08:01, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm not really a fan of making an actual article revolving the merchandise of one Pokemon, but maybe categories would be a good idea. Like Category:Porygon-Z merchandise. This may cause a problem for list articles, though. Virtual-Z 18:01, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm also pretty sure that pages for each specific Pokémon would be turned down extremely quickly. I also don't think that categories will work either. I think that one of the best possible things would be to make a complete list somewhere. But you won't be able to use Squirtle as an example after TTE makes the revamped template. All of those pages will be redone with more than just a list. ^Maverick_Nate 20:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Really I'm just offering categories as an alternative for those who want to see a place in which all of the merchandise for one Pokemon could be viewed. In my opinion, it's not necessary. However, if alot of people were asking for it, I would consider it more so. Virtual-Z 20:17, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

I think that having either seperate pages or categories for each Pokemon would be useful, particularly for two reasons: a) Identification of an item, if you have for example, a Bulbasaur figure you'd never seen before but want information on it, it would be a lot easier to obtain if there was a page on it (for Pokemon with a LOT of merchandise maybe even a page for Bulbasaur figures, though I'm not sure it would come to this for many Pokemon except Pikachu). And b) Say Bulbasaur is your favourite Pokemon - you want to collect some merchandise for that Pokemon, but you are not sure what is out there - a page listing various sets/items Bulbasaur appears in/as would be incredibly helpful. After all this is a 'merchandise' project - one would assume we are aimed particularly at collectors are we not? I like the merchandise page because it gives a list of items, for example if you collect any kind of plush you can find the list of plush at the merch page. So why shouldn't we be able to search for certain Pokemon? Just my two cents worth :) --Yelsha42 02:45, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, this is exactly what I mean! :) I'm glad someone agrees with me XD It just seems to make sense. And what do you mean by "categories" instead of pages for each Pokémon? (Please excuse my newbieness). Moltres93 08:54, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

(resetting indent)Categories are those things at the bottoms of pages, such as Category: Generation V Pokémon. It groups every page that put that category on its page and lists the pages in alphabetical order. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 12:04, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

ISBNs

I've recently been wondering about something. Should the ISBN be put right after the title as <BOOK TITLE> (ISBN 0-439-43440-8) or something similar now that it's in the infobox? Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 16:14, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean put the ISBN in the actual page title? Although that would make it easier for someone trying to identify a certain book, I think it would look kind of messy, especially to people who don't know/care about ISBNs and are just seeing random numbers all over the place XD I think it's fine just in the infobox ;) Moltres93 09:54, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I believe he means just right after the title is mentioned in the actual article, which is the way we have it now. I'm for removing it from this area, since I like the organization of infoboxes. Virtual-Z 05:47, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Really? I've never seen an article with the ISBN anywhere else apart from the infobox. So does that mean we're just gonna stick to keeping it in the infobox and not putting it in the article? Moltres93 09:56, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I think so. It was shown on How to Draw Pokémon (2002) and many others until I removed them sometime after the infobox was made. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 12:00, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Info for books?

I've been thinking, there are a lot of short Pokémon books that don't have very much information in them and don't have any kind of plot. What kind of information do we want to write about these books? I'll use this book as an example. From what I remember this book was only like ten pages long, and didn't have a story so there isn't going to a synopsis for it. I've written up all the usual info about it, what kind of other stuff can we put on pages like these to make them no longer a stub? Moltres93 09:44, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that articles like that should be marked as a stub. However, the page length should be mentioned somewhere, which will hopefully stop people from wondering why it isn't a stub. Virtual-Z 05:47, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Template:Books

...is huge. Any suggestions/ideas on how we should split it up? --ZestyCactus 04:49, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Nuke it and use categories like they were designed to be used. —darklordtrom 04:58, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Or, another option, make separated templates for each of the rows of that template. --electAbuzzzz 09:09, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

I like that one, personally. Virtual-Z 14:05, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

I think having two templates would be better than many small templates as it shows more diversity. Maybe putting the two huge sections (activity and guide books) on one template and the rest on another as I suggested here. It basically makes two equally sized templates. Turtwig's A-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 14:46, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Hasbro Toys

Hello, I was hoping to be able to add to the project by writing about the toys Hasbro released starting with Gen I, mostly thing like the Battle figures, bean bag plush series, and so on. I can easily get pictures for them because I own most of them.

I did do a search of the entire Wiki for these things and they don't exist yet, so I wasn't sure if it was something needed or not. Though it would be kind of interesting to add.Nashida 00:52, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Yep, go right ahead. Don't be afraid to ask any more questions. Virtual-Z 08:52, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Great, I'll get started right away and add myself to the project list, if that's cool. Nashida 14:35, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Pokémon Center Promotions

Hi there, I've been thinking recently about the overwhelming amount of merchandise the Pokémon Centers produce. Perhaps the best way to feature all the merch exclusive to these stores is to have a page on each Pokécen promotion. Every now and then they'll have a 'theme' and base a whole lot of merch around it. For example, a few months ago they had a promotion called "Pokémon Time", where a few selected Pokémon were drawn in a specific style and were made into charms, notebooks and bags. Here is a postcard featuring the Kanto starters in Pokémon Time style: [1] More recently, there has also been a promotion for Eeveelution merchandise in this style: [2] A Charizard promotion featuring hats, notebooks, scarves etc in this pose: [3] And I think the most recent is the "Pikachu around the world" collection: [4]

Each promotion page could have a gallery with photos of each individual item. There could also be a category page listing all the Pokécen promotions. What do people think of this idea? Moltres93 03:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like the best way to organise it to me. We can also have an index page of all the Pokémon Center promotions (which could be seperate or included on the actual Pokémon Centre store page, depending how long it is) --ZestyCactus 04:27, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

I made an example of what the promotion pages could look like in my userspace, here. Would this be good enough to be moved to the mainspace? =p Moltres93 10:37, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Linking

Hey guys, I was thinking recently that not a lot of merchandise pages link to many (if any) others, both in terms of merchandise pages and other articles on the wiki. so I guess my question is, does anyone have any idea how we can try to link to merchandise articles on other pages? I think it would increase visibility to the articles and the project in general. The only idea I can think of is navigation templates, but I'm not entirely sure how useful that is except maybe a navigation template to link all the list articles together (so the template would link to Pokémon food products, Pokémon stationery etc) --ZestyCactus 21:36, 21 October 2010 (UTC)