Talk:Gothitelle (Pokémon)

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Origin

I noticed the resemblence to this thing from Super Smash Bros. Brawl right away.

It's called the Gamyga. But I'm sure that it and Gochiruzeru are based on the same thing. Can anyone figure out what it is? --ケンジのガール 03:32, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

It's gothic-lolita-mon! --Pyritie 08:07, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

It's certainly gothic, but does anyone else think it could be the counterpart to Jynx? Both appear to be based on Japanese fashions (ganguro for Jynx), both are humanoid with purple skin, and both are Psychic. I would hesitate to suggest they're actually related through evolution, though. ~ Serial Colour 19:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

I think it looks more like Jynx actually but that does look like it. - unsigned comment from PokemonMaster01 (talk • contribs)

Leave speculation to the forums, guys. —♥ Jello 18:55, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi I'm new I've already been editing a bunch of pages like Wynaut and Abomasnow but I beleive the "zaru" refers to the french word mademoiselle. "Celestial Body" is another term for "astral body" which is the psychic energy from the spirit leaving the body during sleep. I'm probly wrong though the person below who suggests that she is somewhat of a fallen angel seems more right. (***Snozzardi*** 17:57, 27 July 2010 (UTC))

I think that too little of mademoiselle is used for it to considered a likely origin. --SnorlaxMonster 08:56, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Romanization

I think it's Gothirusel, though not quite sure what's the second part derived from. --Maxim 08:18, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

My guesses are carousel (カルーセル karūseru) or mademoiselle.--Siegfried 09:11, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Also bear in mind that much of the Japanese names have the potential to have several references in them. From what I've gathered, "chiru" is the verb for "to fall, to disperse, to disappear," and considering she's the Celestial body pokemon, this could be a clue as to why she's represented as a Gothic Lolita; Goths are perceived as sad and depressed, and if you're a Celestial Body who has fallen from the heavens, you'd be a sad and depressed too. And I know the "Gochi" part of her name is derived from the Japanese spelling of "Gothic," but there is the potential that they intended for "chiru" to have meaning as well. Now, only to figure out what the "zeru" part means. --Oleandervine 17:01, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Sacrebleu! I think I have figured something out. I have found that the French word "Echelle" means "ladder" or "stairs," and it's also used in astronomy, as the Echelle Grating, which is way of splitting light waves in a spectrograph in order to get clearer readings. Spectrographs are used in astronomy to observe stars, galaxies, and planets using only the light they emit. Anyhoo, the "zeru" portion of her name could be a cut-off part of "echelle, and since it's is used in astronomy, and means "ladder" or "stairs," it could be why this little pokemon has the stacked, tiered look to her (almost ladder like) and it could be a link to the Celestial bodies which she is the pokemon of. --Oleandervine 17:01, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

This may seem silly, but considering that "r" in Japanese = "l" in English, I'm guessing Gothilasel. Gochi = Gothi ruz = las(s) eru = (mademois)el(le) Manaphyman1232 04:48, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Sprite

LINK REMOVED --Knight89 17:30, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, we're not using that. Serebii gets very grumpy when we steal his images. Werdnae (talk) 20:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Then use this one! It wasn't stolen, it was borrowed with permission! --Tailzfoxy96 00:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

I deleted it: it's gif, not what we'd like... ^ht14 00:59, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Accordion reference?

Wasn't entirely sure where to put this, but i'll go ahead. A recent video shows Gochi's cry, which sounds almost like an accordion. That, along with the way she looks and moves, also points to this. Perhaps this is an indicator of its origin, and maybe romanisation too.. N-Denizen 03:58, 10 September 2010 (UTC)