Talk:AmourShipping

Put a notice that is a incomplete page. There are more sections missed.

I made this page because AmourShipping is so important now to not have a page yet. - unsigned comment from Nymphia (talk • contribs)

About Serena cheering for Ash

The fact that Serena cheered for Ash is an Amoushipping hint, but it is not an opportunity to diminish other ships. Misty, Dawn, and Iris all went to great lengths to cheer for Ash as well during battles. I have seen people on Tumblr discussing the content of this page and they seemed upset that false information was published. Please keep to only Amourshipping hints without mentioning other ships. Otherwise, OTP biases find their way on ;) Mooites (talk) 05:02, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

XY009

Should it be added that in xy009, serena was mad at clemont even though it wasn't her that got kicked out of his gym or something? Taeuknam (talk) 04:58, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

XY008 & XY010

The scene at the end of the episode where Serena says to herself how nice it would be to have something you like, it is not a hint. I don't understand why some people keep including it? She was clearly talking about her goal and not Ash because it was after she noticed how Jessica was so passionate about grooming. She did not imply Ash because she obviously would have started blushing if he overheard her. It has already been dissected by fluent Japanese speaking people on the pokemon forums and they all said it was in relation to the goal so I am still confused as to why some people are so adamant about that hint.

Also when Ash unties Serena in XY010, how is that a hint? He was clearly not going to just leave her tied up. And if you want to argue that he "forgot" to untie sycamore, the same could be said about Clemont who was untying his own sister. I understand you guys are excited about this shipping and all, but try to keep the hints realistic please. We want actual hints on this page, not something like "untying" someone else -.- - unsigned comment from Midnight Moon (talk • contribs)

Picture?

Shouldn't there be a picture somewhere on the page? Someone should put on up; I would but I cannot lol :p Midnight Moon (talk) 03:17, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

All things considered, I think the soon-to-be-released poster would make the best image for the article. If something is edited in before then, it should be Ash leading Serena out of the forest (from XY007). --Purimpopoie (talk) 11:27, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

XY20

I think there is a hint in the beginning of XY20. Serena is blushing while looking at Ash and saying something. Although, I'm not sure it's a hint. We're going to need the episode to be subbed to find out. Slick532 (talk) 14:53, 22 March 2014 (UTC)Slick532

She was probably just describing the Battle Chateau to him. ZappaOMati 15:22, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

The Mirror Episode

Its possible that someone will refute my removal of the Mirror Episode hint. After watching the episode myself, I believe that the incident where Ash grabs Serena's hand is not an indication that he has romantic feelings for her. Of the three hands reached out to him, he was closest to Serena's and Bonnie's. Clemont was on the far side. Bonnie's arm is shorter than Serena's, so Serena's hand was the closest one. Furthermore, Ash has proven on many occasions that he deeply trusts all of his traveling companions. We cannot claim that the reason he grabbed Serena's hand is because he trusts her more than Bonnie and Clemont, there is not sufficient evidence. Clemont has saved Ash's life before, remember? Surely Ash would trust him as well. Mooites (talk) 01:12, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

I agree mostly; the only thing I can think of to refute this is that Clemont could've used his robotic arm to save Ash, and that the writers maybe didn't have him do that simply to emphasize him grabbing Serena's hand. Probably not the case, though. Also, kudos for being realistic and not taking every little thing as a hint! We need more shippers like that. Shadow Yoshi (talk) 02:57, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

I would have to respectfully disagree I think it was a AmourShipping moment not only does Ash reach out for Serena's hand but he also Jumps for Serena.In that scene Clemont and Bonnie completely disappear until Serena grabs him then Clemont and Bonnie return to help pull Ash up but for a few seconds it was just about the two of them.I think its pretty clear that the animators were going for a Shipping moment but its your call.

I looked at some other shipping pages (Pearlshipping and Imageshipping) and noticed that "saving the other person from falling to their death" has been used as a hint on those pages too. We should probably do our best to keep it consistent, so lets add the Mirror Episode moment back under hints. I'll phrase it differently though to make it clear that this is an example of Ash trusting Serena, not an example of Ash chosing Serena over Bonnie and Clemont. Is that ok? Mooites (talk) 17:08, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Please stop

I have noticed continuously that people keep adding things that are not really "hints". These things keep getting added although they are not AmourShipping hints at all, and I am a huge AmourShipping so it's not like I am saying this because I don't like the ship or anything. Please stop as it is getting really annoying. Examples:

• As Ash follows Bonnie down to an Ursaring, Serena says "What are you doing?", applying that she thought Ash was walking into danger.

-> Asking a question (and in the dub no less) means nothing. There is a difference between general concern and a "shippy" reaction of concern. Learn the difference.

• After Hawlucha lands a Flying Press on Ash, Serena has a shocked expression on her face and runs to him in concern (although this was the group's general reaction).

-> The fact that it is the group's general reaction does NOT make this an AmourShipping hint.

Also, can people also stop re-editing things and changing the hints every time the dub episode comes out? It is better to have hints of the original Japanese rather than dub edits. Thanks

Midnight Moon (talk)

Except this is an English wiki that revolves primarily around the English/USA versions of Pokémon media. We don't title character pages with their Japanese names and then include the English names in parentheses; we do the opposite. Also, the "Japanese episodes reveal more hints sometimes" argument is null because the dub won't (and can't) mess with a relationship if it were actually going to happen. I get that occasionally the random meaningless hints are different in the dub, but it's not like the dub will change anything meaningful. Shadow Yoshi (talk) 05:00, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Most exclusively?

"Among all of Ash's female companions, Serena has been the one who is featured the most exclusively with Ash."

The above statement was thrown into the trivia, but I think it should be either removed or made more specific. Depending on how it is looked at, this statement can be disagreeable. There are many ways to be featured, but Serena is not shown the most exclusive with Ash in all of those ways. It doesn't have to be removed, though; it can be fixed. For example, it could be specified that Serena was the most featured in childhood exclusively with Ash. But unless it is not made to be true, I think the trivia should be removed.

Removed that piece of trivia after a while. Worded really confusingly and not elaborated on. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 11:33, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Please, guys

Please use proper grammar and only include valid hints. This page, I'd say, is one of the worst about this, and we all should pitch in to make that change. Use proper capitalization and punctuation. Follow Bulbapedia's formatting guidelines. It's "Pokémon," not "pokemon."

As for hints, Bulbapedia doesn't like us relying on fansubs, so if you don't understand Japanese ask someone who does or wait for the dub. Also, don't add hints that aren't actually hints. This was discussed a couple sections up, so please read that. If you're unsure about a hint, you might want to bring it up on here.

Thanks. Ax3w (talk) 22:10, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Gift

While I agree it is a hint, the way it says "It's the first time he's given one of his female friends a gift" sounds wrong, as he gifted Iris a flower back in Best Wishes. Even if it's a different context, it's still a gift. So maybe more along the lines as he gifted her it without expecting anything in return or something like that, as it's not the first time he's given a female friend a gift of any sort, as it kinda feels like OTP Bias is creeping in. Thanks Waterninja12345 (talk) 00:46, 18 February 2015 (UTC)