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Please leave your message by creating a new section below. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 05:09, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Your archive template

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Thank you! Looks perfect now. :) Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 05:51, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Re: Forme

Actually, the forme part was already there when I looked at it. All I did was capitalize the F since such capitalization seemed to be consistent where I was standing. I wasn't aware of any terminology rules or whatever. But anyway, it's cool. Do whatever you need to do. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 20:29, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

RE: Official sources

Sorry about that, when you asked for a source I thought you meant a source for his name. I realized after that while his name was confirmed by the image I linked to, his relationship with Samuel Oak was not, and at the time I did not have a source for that. The various claims of Nariya being Oak's cousin come from this tweet by Famitsu: https://twitter.com/famitsu/status/773718769117990912

I'm not sure if they count as an offical source, so I'll leave that up to your discretion. Skyarrow (talk) 06:20, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Protection

May I ask, primarily out of interest, why you say that "Prerelease articles should not be editable by non-staff"? Right now, I can understand how it makes sense to restrict access to some controversial articles or ones that have a history of being edited prematurely in some way ("Speculation crackdown"), but I wouldn't necessarily have derived a strict rule like that. (So, for example, I wouldn't have protected Lusamine in particular, as the article has basically only benefited from its non-protection.) Nescientist (talk) 00:41, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Prerelease articles inherently, by virtue of being prerelease, will draw attention and speculation from people who are not familiar with Bulbapedia's policies. I think it's best to pre-empt that before it happens, and since the staff have been protecting things as requested, they clearly don't disagree. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 00:44, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. So it's just two different philosophies, I guess; I might be a little naive, but I'd rather start off expecting improvement rather than a high likelihood of nonsense being added. Nescientist (talk) 00:55, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Given that Bulbapedia entirely shuts down non-staff editing at the beginning of every generation so staff can update our pages without interference, I think that ship had sailed a solid decade ago. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 01:32, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Future note, we don't prefer doing it for ALL prerelease info, just pokémon. You do have to have faith in editors before getting PROTECTPROTECT trigger happy, and I don't agree protecting moves/abilities/people outright should be a thing until real issues arise. Please bear this in mind. Kai * the Arc Toraph 01:54, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

I can actually understand the non-staff edit lock better; I guess it's really hard to ensure that each of the many edits to move learn levels etc. is actually trustworthy. For prerelease articles, I guess staff (and also you and me) can just spot errors rather easily, then fix them. (And then protect them.) I was interested in your reasoning/opinion, especially seeing you're non-staff. While I agree with ArcToraphim, I at least know what you are (have been) thinking, so thanks again for that. Nescientist (talk) 02:10, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

yveltal and the black death

I didn't base the black death analysis on color scheme or the fact it represents death. I don't know what has caused you to believe this. The black death aspect comes from the fact that it annihilated huge scores of humans and Pokémon with a roughly similar timescale and geological area as the real-world black death. Also, stating it has basis on the black death would be no different than stating the new alolan dance birds Oricorio are based off specific dance styles/practices. Pokémon are not singular, they are a multisided often Chimeric representation of multiple ideas, concepts and imaginings. Yamitora1 (talk) 09:11, 10 September 2016 (UTC)