Talk:Pokémon Masters EX

Cheryl was also shown to be present in the direct. I don't want to mess with the coding since it's clearly being very carefully handled, but just wanted to point it out. GymLeaderKit (talk) 18:16, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

But who's the really tall adult woman with the Lotad?

Only main series games I've never played are X & Y and Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee and I've never seen her before. Is she a new original character or a returning side character?

Also, does this take place in the Kalos/Alola universe (but at an earlier time period, before Red and Blue became adults), or is this an entirely separate universe on its own, like the Let's Go universe? Mcheetah (talk) 18:42, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

She's a Beauty. The Japanese version of the game's Animated Trailer has credits for all speaking characters and she's identified as a Beauty (大人のお姉さん). So, looks that there are original Trainer Class designs in this game as well. --Maxim (talk) 20:30, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Possible Release date

So I just found out the possible release dates through this source on face book " Pokémon Masters preregistration has begun!, Follow the links below to preregister!, App Store: https://apple.co/2LB8duF , Google Play: http://bit.ly/32H1nJw, *Preregistration is being rolled-out gradually. Please check back later if it's not available now." Should we add the release dates?--Jacob Kogan (talk) 04:19, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Which Facebook account are we talking about? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 05:28, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Voice cast

Not sure of the way we're going to format the cast for this game, so I'll just drop what I find here. Kaiji Tang as Noland, Hiker and Pokéfan The Great Butler (talk) 04:29, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

That should be good. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 04:31, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Erica Mendez in the game, role as yet unrevealed. Worth keeping an eye on for when that information's given. The Great Butler (talk) 06:44, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Got some more: Xanthe Huynh as Erika, Laura Stahl as Skyla, Lass and Hau, Cristina Vee as Bugsy and Phoebe, Tamara Ryan as Professor Bellis, Tom Bauer as Brock, Phil Reich as Will and Marshal, Kayli Mills as Rosa The Great Butler (talk) 03:01, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

I implemented all of that information into their "Trivia" sections in the meantime. Do you happen to know if these same VAs worked on the Pokémon Masters Animated Trailer? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 03:38, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

I don't have strong enough evidence to make that claim for any characters, unfortunately. The Great Butler (talk) 03:49, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Brianna Knickerbocker as Roxie and Viola The Great Butler (talk) 05:12, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Alejandro Saab as Roark The Great Butler (talk) 06:48, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Okay. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 09:07, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Kira Buckland as Shauntal, Liza, Beauty and Rising Star, Christine Cabanos as Acerola, Kimberly Woods as Youngster, Ryan Bartley as Korrina and Candice, Allegra Clark as Cynthia, Faye Mata as Trista, Trinnia and Tricia, Sean Chiplock as Siebold and Nanu, Aleks Le as Brendan, Bryce Papenbrook as Lear The Great Butler (talk) 03:31, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Given the size of the cast, I think it would make sense to have a table for the voice cast on this page. --SnorlaxMonster 03:45, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

I agree with this. This is going to be possibly the largest voice cast Bulbapedia has ever seen, there needs to be an easy to find place to collect it. The Great Butler (talk) 05:30, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

(resetting indent)I just realized the Detective Pikachu game article has a "Cast" section. Perhaps we could model this article's "Cast" section after that. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 21:37, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

This would be a good choice, imo. Also, Christopher Bevins as Brycen, Koga and Swimmer. The Great Butler (talk) 03:19, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Seems things are slowing down. Erik Kimerer as Barry and Grant The Great Butler (talk) 03:04, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm hoping to create a "Cast" section for this article once I have the time. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 03:53, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Good idea. I'm looking forward to it. The Great Butler (talk) 05:55, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Same. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 19:47, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

It's been a while, but a new update: Zach Aguilar as Calem --The Great Butler (talk) 04:50, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

What about...

...a chapters section? I don't know but maybe it'll come in handy.......

--   『★¥♠§H♂』 (『†@!K™』) 17:31, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Oh, and I forgot to mention, do we need a subsection describing co-op battle mode? -- 『★¥♠§H♂』 (『†@!K™』) 17:35, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Definitely, it's a big part of the game, and is the only way to obtain gear I believe. Sir Cookie 21:58, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Pages for the Chapters and the Events...

Isn't it about time that we should make new pages for every chapter containing its plot, quotes, battles and recruited sync pair, etc.; I'm afraid it requires a large amount of time...

...and also the events..... --> 『★¥♠§H♂』 (『†@!K™』) 17:16, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

The question wasn't that hard, was it? --> 『★¥♠§H♂』 (『†@!K™』) 17:34, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Animated trailer of the Giovanni and Mewtwo legendary event

A short CGI trailer was released to introduce the legendary event featuring Giovanni and Mewtwo, using dedicated (not in-game) 3D models. Should this be covered on this wiki as well?--Mister Wu (talk) 00:45, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Page for Other events

I believe we should have one page for Other Events which gives more details. It will be good to have detailed reward descriptions. --Ozderya (talk) 05:01, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

No Android Release in Switzerland

Not quite sure how to add this to the Release table, but in Switzerland the game is only avaliable on iOS. I also don't know if Switzerland is the only country affected, but I'd guess it would be good if someone could check up on that. --mecanno-man^Discussion 20:13, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Fixed. --Abcboy (talk) 20:49, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Someone Help

I was trying to add on the rerun of the zinna event. But I screwed up please someone help! - unsigned comment from Connixstar08 (talk • contribs)

The Beast That Devours the Sun (Rerun)

Does any know when the new The Beast That Devours the Sun event ends?--ConNix 20:29, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Mudkip's & Marshtomp's Evolution

In Sync Pair Stories Category, It doesn't have an icon for Mudkip & Marshtomp icon. Can someone fix that, please and thank you--ConNix 14:59, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Done. Vmario97 (talk) 15:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Continuity evidence discussion

This is mostly in response to the recent trivia edit, but I figured it would be better to organize our evidence here.

Games canon to Masters

To recap: Certain events from the core series are stated to have happened before the main story of Masters EX. Evidence supporting this is scattered across the various sync pairs in Masters, as well as quotes in event stories and such. The identified games, as I understand them (based on the trivia edit and looking into things further), are:

• Kanto: Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen:
  • (FRLG) Leaf exists, and chose the remaining starter that Red and Blue did not.
  • (Alteration) Both Red and Leaf coexist in the same game, unlike in the original game
• Johto: Mix of Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver and Pokémon Crystal:
  • (HGSS) Lyra, Ariana, Archer, Proton, and Petrel all exist.
  • (Crystal) Kris exists.
  • (Crystal or HGSS) Eusine exists.
  • (Alteration) Both Ethan and Kris coexist in the same game, unlike in Crystal.
  • (conflict) the gen 4 Frontier Brains have the Sinnoh theme skill, but not the Johto theme skill.
• Hoenn: Mix of Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire and Pokémon Emerald:
  • (ORAS) The ORAS designs are used for all Hoenn characters, if applicable.
  • (Emerald) Hoenn's Frontier Brains exist.
  • (Emerald) Both Team Magma and Team Aqua are stated as previously being active in Hoenn.
• Sinnoh: Pokémon Platinum:
  • (Platinum) Cynthia has previously visited the Distortion World, and Cyrus was defeated there.
  • (Platinum): Gen 4's Frontier Brains appear, and they have the Sinnoh theme skill.
  • (DP) Dawn, Lucas, and Barry use their DP designs instead of Platinum designs.
• Unova, part 1: Pokémon Black
  • (Black) Hilbert is the Hero of Truth, and N is the Hero of Ideals.
• Unova part 2: Pokémon Black 2 and White 2
  • Nate, Rosa, Roxie, and Marlon exist.
  • Pokéstar Studios exists.
  • Colress uses his BW2 design (as opposed to his SM/USUM design).
  • Cheren, Bianca, Elesa, Iris, and Ghetsis use their designs from BW2.
• Kalos: Pokémon X and Y
  • Unclear which one.
• Alola: Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon
  • (USUM) Lusamine mentions previously meeting a Necrozma that she considered "a menace to be defeated".
  • (not SM) Lusamine does not seem to mention being possessed/poisoned by Nihilego and her subsequent recovery, from SM.
  • (SM) Elio and Selene use their SM designs.
  • (Alteration) Both Elio and Selene coexist in the same game, unlike in the original game
• Galar: Pokémon Sword
  • (Sword) Gloria owns Zacian, and Hop owns Zamazenta.
  • (Alteration) Both Victor and Gloria coexist in the same game, unlike in the original game
• Hisui: Pokémon Legends: Arceus
  • Rei, Akari, Adaman, and Irida exist.
• Paldea: Pokémon Scarlet
  • (Scarlet) Nemona is wearing a Naranja Academy uniform.

Characters that exist outside of Masters continuity

• Giovanni mentions previously forming and disbanding Team Rainbow Rocket.
• Cyrus has never heard of the Distortion World, and states that he was about to use Dialga and Palkia to remake the world when he was interrupted by Hoopa's ring summon. This Cyrus is likely the alternate dimension one from USUM, where he came from a world in which his plan succeeded.
• Jessie and James are from the alternate movie continuity .
• Ash is from the the main anime's continuity.

Status of the protagonists in Masters

• Red is the protagonist of FireRed and LeafGreen, with Blue as his rival.
  • Red's starter is Charizard
  • Red was 100% the Champion of the Kanto region, there is a need to provide evidence of this.
• Ethan is the protagonist of HeartGold and SoulSilver/Crystal, with Silver as his rival and Lyra as the NPC character.
  • Ethan's starter is Typhlosion, based on Silver having Feraligatr, plus Ethan's current Typhlosion could have been the child of his original starter, like with Hilbert's Samurott.
  • As far as I know, there is no hint that Ethan is the Champion of Johto.
  • The only hint to Ethan and Red's possible battle at Mt. Silver, is Ethan saying "Darn, I really thought I was going to win today" in the story event Threads of Strength, which is still very vague. It is clear that they had a battle before, but the winner isn't made clear, as the quote could be interpreted as Ethan thinking he was FINALLY going to defeat Red, or that he had defeated Red before but lost this current battle.
• Brendan is the protagonist of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire/Emerald, with May as his rival.
  • Brendan's starter is most likely Sceptile, based on May's starter being Blaziken, plus Brendan's current Sceptile could have been the child of his original starter, like with Hilbert's Samurott.
  • As far as I know, there is only one hint that Brendan is the Champion of Hoenn, as during the Villain Arc one of the Team Magma grunts reacts to seeing Brendan by saying "You are Hoenn's..." and then gets cut off.
• Dawn is the protagonist of Platinum, with Barry as her rival and Lucas being Professor Rowan's assistant.
  • Currently unknown, as it is never stated that her Torterra is the child of her original starter, plus it contradicts with Lucas having Infernape, which has the type advantage against Torterra. She could have received Torterra from Barry as an Egg, like how Gloria received Cinderace from Hop, or simply Masters is breaking the canon of the original game by having her starter be Torterra.
  • As far as I know, there is one hint that Dawn might be the Champion of Sinnoh. Dawn mentions that she caught her Cresselia in Sinnoh, after chasing her throughout the region. A clear reference to Cresselia being a roaming Pokémon, which only starts roaming after the player defeats Cynthia.
• Hilbert is the protagonist of Pokémon Black, with Hilda being the Battle Subway Partner.
  • Hilbert's starter is Samurott.
  • As far as I know, there is no hint that Hilbert is the Champion of Unova, but this isn't a big deal as being Unova's Champion is 100% optional in the game.
• Rosa is the protagonist of either Black 2 or White 2, with her rival being Hugh and Nate being the Battle Subway Partner.
  • Rosa's starter could be Serperior, as it could be the child of her original starter, like with Hilbert's Samurott. But it shouldn't be assumed until we see Nate and Hugh's starters.
  • As far as I know, there is no hint that Rosa is the Champion of Unova.
• Serena is the protagonist of either X or Y, with her rival being Calem.
  • Serena's starter could be Delphox, as it could be the child of her original starter, like with Hilbert's Samurott. It also has a type advantage against Shauna's Chesnaught (assuming that Chesnaught is her true starter), although this brings up the question of how she received Greninja.
  • Serena's starter could also be Greninja, and she simply received Delphox from an egg from Shauna (assuming that Chesnaught isn't her true starter, which would make Delphox her true starter). Although this assumes that Greninja isn't Calem's true starter.
  • As far as I know, there is no hint that Serena is the Champion of Kalos.
• Is unclear who the protagonists of Ultra Sun or Ultra Moon are. Although it seems to lean towards Elio, as he knows who the Masked Royal is, and Kukui recognizes his strength. We know the Champion of Alola exists, as Kukui mentions that the player reminds him of their Champion.
• Gloria is the protagonist of Pokémon Sword, with her rival being Hop.
  • Gloria's starter is Inteleon
  • Leon is still referred to be the Unbeatable Champion, even though by the end of the game's main story, Leon shouldn't still be the Champion of Galar. Leon has also been defeated during the course of the game's events, so it is possible Leon has been defeated, but is still called the Unbeatable Champion. I don't remember if it was ever stated that Gloria and Leon ever battled during the Galar League, and if they did battle, did she win or lose?
• Rei is the protagonist of Legends: Arceus, with Akari being Professor Laventon's assistant.
  • Rei's starter is Hisuian Decidueye
• As of this moment, it is currently unknown who the protagonist of Pokémon Scarlet is.

Things that need to be cleared up

• Was it ever stated that characters from Alola battle Team Rainbow Rocket? If not, this could imply that Episode RR never happened in this game's continuity. If they do, this could imply that Team Rainbow Rocket which arrived in Pasio, is the same one that attacked Aether Paradise in this game's continuity.
• Are Ariana, Archer, Proton, and Petrel from this game's continuity, or are they from the same world as Giovanni?
• Are the other villainous teams from this game's continuity, or are they from a different world like Cyrus
• Are Rose and Oleana from a different world where Rose has not caused the Darkest Day, or were they taken from a point in time before Rose caused the Darkest Day? (There is a difference, as both multiverse and time travel exist in the Pokémon canon)
• Are there two versions of Grimsley in the game. I don't think they are, but some fans seem to think so, as his base and Kimono outfit seem to have aged the character. It could be simply explained away by saying that Grimsley dyed his hair to look younger.
• Has Red and Blue experince Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon? As far as I know, there are no references to them being co-leaders of Alola's Battle Tree. This of course could be answered in the future, but I brought it up as the game implied that some characters are from different points in time, due to Hoopa's rings or the space-time rifts. Red and Blue also don't use their Alola designs, but then again as stated earlier, some characters use their design from different games, despite not being from those games.
• Is there any evidence that any of the player characters are Champions?

That's all I know of so far. If anybody has more evidence (or if more arises later), please bring it up. --Boblers (talk) 03:51, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

I divided the sections into "Games canon to Masters", "Characters that exist outside of Masters continuity", "Status of the protagonists in Masters" and "Things that need to be cleared up" along with adding some questions that need to be answered. Please feel free to answer or add more questions about the game's continuity. TBR2001 (talk) 21:21, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

A couple notes:

• Lyra explicitly states that she faced Red, at the beginning there likely was a division of the player character’s feat with Ethan facing Team Rocket and having Silver as rival, Kris catching Suicune and Lyra facing Red. However, with the addition of special lines of dialogue at the end of the battle in the Johto Villain Arc, Ethan now has special lines of dialogue when in the same team as Red, so it’s possible that he too faced Red.
  • Although Lyra did mention she once battled Red. there is no indication that she battled him on Mt. Silver. In the Masters' continuity, Lyra could have very likely battled Red in Pasio instead of on Mt. Silver, as she never mentioned where she first battled Red. This is the direct quote "Since we're on the topic, maybe I should challenge Red, too. We battled once before, but was it really a great battle?" There is the implication that she lost the battle against Red, but she never confirmed that she faced Red on Mt. Silver.
  • Kris never caught the Suicune she was chasing in the Masters' continuity. Here's a direct quote "I've grown so much since coming to Pasio...I wish I could show the Suicune I encountered back in Johto what I'm capable of now. And the person who chased Suicune around with me... I'd like to show them, too." "The first time I ever saw a Suicune was in the Johto region. Back then, I thought it would be so wonderful to be able to go on adventures with one... And now I have one by my side." These quotes state that Kris never caught the original Suicune from Crystal, and that her current Suicune is an entirely different one that she caught in Pasio.
• While the Alola continuity is largely the USUM one, Anabel is stated to be the head of the UB Task Force, so that part of the story seems to be drawn from SM.

—Mister Wu (talk) 11:16, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Anwserwed some questions regarding Lyra and Kris's role in the Masters' continuity.TBR2001 (talk) 17:13, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Version history split

While the version history tables are automatically collapsed, they're quite massive once they're expanded, and a bit unwieldy to browse through. I think we should move these to a "Pokémon Masters EX/Version history" subpage, and perhaps break it up further into 1.x.x and 2.x.x. Basically, something similar to what was done for Pokémon Shuffle/Version history. --Boblers (talk) 22:29, 5 October 2023 (UTC)