User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox
At the moment, I've made the new template into a more explicit "builder". That's mostly just how I was able to get a handle on things; but it has some ups and downs.
The EvoMon templates make you include a bit ("Unevolved"/etc) that the old template didn't. But on the other hand, all the "evo1", "evo2a", "art#", "type#-#" etc in the old template is kinda finicky and can be pretty confusing; whereas having all the parameters for one Pokémon just ordered within a single template should be much more understandable.
But overall, they look fundamentally the same. Except on mobile where you can see that the old template breaks while the new one stays how it's meant to look. (You can look at the live species page or preview here; the old version is commented out just because of categories.)
Ralts (Pokémon)#Evolution
Divs (new)
User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/v2, User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/pattern112
Tables (old)
{{Evobox/2branch2
|type1=Psychic|type2=Fairy
|no1=0280|name1=Ralts|type1-1=Psychic|type2-1=Fairy
|evo1={{Bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}}<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level 20}}
|no2=0281|name2=Kirlia|type1-2=Psychic|type2-2=Fairy
|evo2a={{Bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}}<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level 30}}
|no3a=0282|name3a=Gardevoir|type1-3a=Psychic|type2-3a=Fairy
|evo2b={{Bag/s|Dawn Stone|SV}} + [[File:Male icon SV.png|link=Gender]]<br>{{color2|000|Dawn Stone}}<br><small>({{color2|000|Gender|male}})</small>
|no3b=0475|name3b=Gallade|type1-3b=Psychic|type2-3b=Fighting
}}
Goomy (Pokémon)#Evolution
Divs (new)
User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/v2, User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/pattern122
Tables (old)
{{Evobox/2branch1
|type1=Dragon
|no1=0704
|name1=Goomy
|type1-1=Dragon
|evo1a={{Bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}}<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level 40}}<br>outside of {{color2|000|Hisui}}
|no2a=0705
|name2a=Sliggoo
|type1-2a=Dragon
|evo1b={{Bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + {{bag/s|Celestica Flute|LA|Hisui}}<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level 40}}<br>in {{color2|000|Hisui}}
|art2b=0705Sliggoo-Hisui
|name2b=Sliggoo
|type1-2b=Steel
|type2-2b=Dragon
|form2b=Hisuian Form
|evo2a={{Bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + [[File:Rain icon SwSh.png|40px]][[File:Fog icon SwSh.png|40px]]<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level 50}}<br><small>(during {{color2|000|rain}} or {{color2|000|fog}}{{sup/8|SwSh}})</small>
|evo2b={{Bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + [[File:Rain icon SwSh.png|40px]][[File:Fog icon SwSh.png|40px]]<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level 50}}<br><small>(during {{color2|000|rain}} or {{color2|000|fog}})</small>
|no3a=0706
|name3a=Goodra
|type1-3a=Dragon
|art3b=0706Goodra-Hisui
|name3b=Goodra
|type1-3b=Steel
|type2-3b=Dragon
|form3b=Hisuian Form
}}
Slowpoke (Pokémon)#Evolution
Divs (new)
User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/v2, User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/pattern12
Tables (old)
{{Evobox/1branch2
|type1=Water
|type2=Psychic
|no1=0079
|name1=Slowpoke
|type1-1=Water
|type2-1=Psychic
|evo1a={{Bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}}<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level 37}}
|no2a=0080
|name2a=Slowbro
|type1-2a=Water
|type2-2a=Psychic
|evo1b=[[File:Link Trade icon SV.png|40px|link=Trade]] + {{Bag/s|King's Rock|SV}}<br>{{color2|000|Trade}}<br>holding {{color2|000|King's Rock}}
|no2b=0199
|name2b=Slowking
|type1-2b=Water
|type2-2b=Psychic}}
Tyrogue (Pokémon)#Evolution
Divs (new)
User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/v2, User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/pattern13
Tables (old)
This is currently only used for Tyrogue, but it can also be used for Rockruff. (Either it should be modified, or just replaced with the new div-evobox.)
{{evobox/1branch3}}
Farfetch'd (Pokémon)#Evolution
Divs (new)
User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/v2, User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/pattern1
Tables (old)
{{Evobox-1
|type1=Normal
|type2=Flying
|pictype=art
|no1=0083
|name1=Farfetch'd
|type1-1=Normal
|type2-1=Flying}}
Psyduck (Pokémon)#Evolution
Divs (new)
User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/v2, User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/pattern11
Tables (old)
{{Evobox-2
|type1=Water
|pictype=art
|no1=0054
|name1=Psyduck
|type1-1=Water
|evo1={{Bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}}<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level 33}}
|no2=0055
|name2=Golduck
|type1-2=Water}}
Bulbasaur (Pokémon)#Evolution
Divs (new)
User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/v2, User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/pattern111
Tables (old)
{{Evobox-3
|type1=Grass
|type2=Poison
|pictype=art
|no1=0001
|name1=Bulbasaur
|type1-1=Grass
|type2-1=Poison
|evo1={{Bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}}<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level 16}}
|no2=0002
|name2=Ivysaur
|type1-2=Grass
|type2-2=Poison
|evo2={{Bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}}<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level 32}}
|no3=0003
|name3=Venusaur
|type1-3=Grass
|type2-3=Poison}}
Chingling (Pokémon)#Evolution
This and the two below are showcasing Incense conditions...except that I'm omitting this one (User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/pattern11/breed). Call it an exercise for the reader.
Chansey (Pokémon)#Evolution
Divs (new)
User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/v2, User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/pattern111/breed
Tables (old)
{{Evobox-3
|type1=Normal
|pictype=art
|no1=0440
|name1=Happiny
|type1-1=Normal
|breed={{bag/s|Luck Incense|SV}}<br>{{color2|000|Pokémon breeding|Breed}}<br>holding {{color2|000|Luck Incense}}<br><small>({{color2|000|Generation IV|IV}}–{{color2|000|Generation VIII|VIII}})</small>
|evo1={{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + {{bag/s|Oval Stone|SV}}<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level up}}<br>holding {{color2|000|Oval Stone}}<br><small>during the {{color2|000|Time|day}}</small>
|no2=0113
|name2=Chansey
|type1-2=Normal
|evo2={{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + {{bag/s|Soothe Bell|SV}}<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level up}} with<br>high {{color2|000|friendship}}
|no3=0242
|name3=Blissey
|type1-3=Normal}}
Mime Jr. (Pokémon)#Evolution
Divs (new)
User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/v2, User:Tiddlywinks/EvoBox/pattern122/breed
Tables (old)
Outside of Galar
{{Evobox-2
|type1=Psychic
|type2=Fairy
|pictype=art
|no1=0439
|name1=Mime Jr.
|type1-1=Psychic
|type2-1=Fairy
|breed={{bag/s|Odd Incense|SV}}<br>{{color2|000|Pokémon Breeding|Breed}}<br>holding {{color2|000|Odd Incense}}
|evo1={{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + [[File:Bag TM Normal SV Sprite.png|40px|link=Mimic (move)]]<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level up}}<br>knowing {{color2|000|Mimic (move)|Mimic}}<br>outside of {{color2|000|Galar}}
|no2=0122
|name2=Mr. Mime
|type1-2=Psychic
|type2-2=Fairy}}
In Galar
{{evobox-3
|type1=Psychic
|type2=Fairy
|pictype=sprite
|no1=0439Mime Jr
|name1=Mime Jr.
|type1-1=Psychic
|type2-1=Fairy
|breed={{bag/s|Odd Incense|SV}}<br>{{color2|000|Pokémon Breeding|Breed}}<br>holding {{color2|000|Odd Incense}}
|evo1={{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + [[File:Bag TM Normal SV Sprite.png|40px|link=Mimic (move)]] + [[File:Sword Shield Dynamax Band.png|40px|link=Galar]]<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level up}}<br>knowing {{color2|000|Mimic (move)|Mimic}}<br>in {{color2|000|Galar}}
|no2=0122Mr. Mime-Galar
|name2=Mr. Mime
|form2=Galarian Form
|type1-2=Ice
|type2-2=Psychic
|evo2={{Bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}}<br>{{color2|000|Level|Level 42}}
|no3=0866Mr. Rime
|name3=Mr. Rime
|type1-3=Ice
|type2-3=Psychic}}
Manaphy (Pokémon)#Evolution
Divs (new)
Tables (old)
{{Evobox/Manaphy}}
Grubbin (Pokémon)#Evolution
Divs (new)
Gained Thunder Stone option in SwSh (and hasn't appeared since). > Note exclusivity outside evobox.
Tables (old)
{{Evobox/Grubbin}}
Inkay (Pokémon)#Evolution
Divs (new)
IDK why this wasn't just an Evobox-1, but whatever.
⤾Level 30
while holding game system
upside-down
Tables (old)
{{Evobox/Inkay}}
Feebas (Pokémon)#Evolution
Divs (new)
Can evolve by trade item or beauty. (Add notes outside evobox.)
Tables (old)
{{Evobox/Feebas}}
Nincada (Pokémon)#Evolution
Really, neither the new nor old templates do a great job of communicating what happens. So we just need to spell it out clearly outside the box.
Divs (new)
Tables (old)
{{Evobox/1castoff}}
Eevee (Pokémon)#Evolution
Divs (new)
Radial is cool, but if they add another Eeveelution it's gonna blow right up. Vertical is best considering mobile users and future-proofing.
Since 9 pages need this whole thing, saving the whole thing as its own template is a reasonable option. (EvoBox/Eevee(V/R)?) But it's also easy to add an EvoBox/pattern18 template and/or EvoBox/patternRadial. Arguably, making the whole thing its own template would also prevent us from ending up with "orphaned" patterns just because they're not too likely to have another 8-evolution Pokémon (at least anytime soon).
- Vertical
- Radial
Tables (old)
{{Evobox/1branch7}}, see also User:SnorlaxMonster/Evobox/Eevee
{{Evobox/1branch7}}
Necrozma (Pokémon)#Forms
Divs (new)
test
Tables (old)
{{Evobox/Necrozma}}
Pikachu (Pokémon)#Forms
Some species like Cosplay Pikachu have forms that are freely interchangeable. The current usage of ↔ switches its meaning sometimes and/or it's kinda bad notation. On a page like Charizard (Pokémon)#Forms, X ↔ Y ↔ Z is used where only Y can turn into X or Z, but on pages like Pikachu, the same notation means X and Y and Z (and...) can all turn into each other. So I kinda wanted to find a format that is less ambiguous and doesn't overlap with other cases.
New
This basically accomplishes my goal for a distinct (and reasonable) format, but it's not "excellent". I think the presentation could be improved a bit, or something even better could be found, but for now it's a starting point.
Just for reference, this is one of the best "radial" versions I could come up with. I'm not sure the meaning is really clear enough, and other iterations with arrows and stuff didn't work well enough for me. It also feels pretty bulky.
Old
Just to reiterate: the usage of ↔ here is very different from a page like Charizard (Pokémon)#Forms (which is arguably the most natural interpretation).
Cosplay Pikachu
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TBD
{{Evobox/Meowth-Alola}}: PE was Gen VII, just remove the PE condition and note it outside the box{{Evobox/Formes}}...can probably work off EvoBox/v2 pretty well as is- ?
{{Evobox/Necrozma}}> (just convert? check if it should be simplified to a basic case)
Forms have their own whole set of parameters, need to at least mock up a few things...
Other:
- Need an option for "These methods apply to the latest games; see (below?) for other details".
- Will also need to integrate the proper categories to all of these. I may need to include them with a method similar to the patterns since I've combined everything in one... (Should be fine.) But may need special options for odd cases like Manaphy, and forms (
{{{cat|~default categories~}}}?).
