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Attention: Before you post

Since this has happened repeatedly, here is a list of Pokémon belonging to rivals/recurring in the anime that I wish you would not ask me about making them in your userspace. These Pokémon did have articles before but the Editorial Board agreed upon them being merged into the Trainer's article. Here is the list:

Gary's Nidoking
Gary's Nidoqueen
Drew's Flygon
Drew's Masquerain
Drew's Absol
Drew's Butterfree
Harley's Banette
Harley's Ariados
Harley's Octillery
Harley's Wigglytuff
Paul's Azumarill
Paul's Stantler
Paul's Weavile
Paul's Gliscor
Paul's Ninjask
Paul's Drapion
Zoey's Mismagius
Nando's Sunflora
Kenny's Alakazam
Kenny's Breloom
Casey's Elekid
Happy - Ritchie's Butterfree
Cruise - Ritchie's Pupitar
Rose - Ritchie's Taillow

There are more than this, but most of the others were Gym Leader/Elite Four/Frontier Brain Pokémon and I have yet to be asked about recreating them.

If you would be so kind, try to avoid asking about these Pokémon. The main reason being the obvious one: they were already here and deemed unnotable. The second is about history preservation for the articles that were redirected and not deleted before then. If the decisions were to ever be overturned, the redirects that exist now can be reverted back to the way the were and history will be preserved. Moving a userspace article over the redirect will erase all the history from before. I recommend saving your work on an external program for use at a later time or write what ever information you have into the Trainer article itself. Thank you for understanding. --ケンジの ガール

Cress's Panpour

I think that since we have an article for Chili's Pansear and Cilan's Pansage, we should have an article for Cress's Panpour in the anime. What do you think? Satoshi101 22:14, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Cress's Panpour has appeared only in one episode. Please read this before making that page. -- ✔Poké.geek™✔ 22:18, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh. Just making sure things are consistent. Satoshi101 22:22, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, as Poke.geek said, Panpour has done nothing of significance. Cilan's a main character and Pansear had an episode about it. --ケンジの ガール 03:34, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Filb.de Images

Do we not mention Filb.de screenshots for the Original Series? Because the whole Original series pages (EP001-EP274) is missing those footnotes and I know for a fact that the website has them. (Because I've seen them). Thanks in advance. --Pokemaster 97 00:20, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

You probably could include them if there are any, but we'll see what Kenji's two-cents is. サトシ 00:27, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Yea the thing is though it's like 272 something episodes, and I rather not add all of them myself DX --Pokemaster 97 00:29, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

If available than yes, it should be mentioned. --ケンジの ガール 03:34, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Your Assistance here please

This user refuses to listen to anyone and just keeps changing the page in his favore despite people (mostly me) saying that he is int he wrong. I'm not going to edit this page any further because I'm not getting into an edit war but your help would be greatly appreciated. --Hoenn Master 00:24, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

He has a point though. There should be a written documentation proving they exist. Voice actors are a good source but it was such a long time ago and there was never a quote given other than "voice actors said so". --ケンジの ガール 03:34, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree the part saying they existed could be removed, but flat out removal like this user wants is what I'm against. I know Maddie Blaustien said something about this when she joined Serebii a few years ago. --Hoenn Master 17:37, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

OK, I'M SO SORRY

Ok, I'll stop editing. I'm sorry. I didn't see what was on my userpage. I'll wait until the anime confirms it which might be never. I was just trying to help and spread useful knowledge. --[[MichaelXD| 28 December 2011 - - unsigned comment from MichaelXD (talk • contribs)

Carter Cathcart

I've noticed back in February you moved Carter Cathcart to Jimmy Zoppi. However, Jimmy Zoppi is not his real name. It's James Carter Cathcart. I don't know why you changed it, but I think it should be at either James Carter Cathcart or Carter Cathcart. Just like how Kayzie Rogers' article is not titled "Jamie Peacock." サトシ 19:17, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

First of all, I never moved Carter Cathcart to Jimmy Zoppi. All I did was redirect the name. The page was always Jimmy Zoppi and no one ever attempted to move it. Second, I didn't know that was his real name back then. People will voice there opinions on the move on the talk page and we'll see what happens. --ケンジの ガール 22:50, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I forgot that was months ago. Anyway, we'll just see how it goes. サトシ 00:06, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

EP081

Hey KG, we're having a small issue with EP081. A user is changing the page to say it is the first episode of the Orange Islands Saga while it's listed as the last episode of the Indigo League on all the other pages on here. Is he right or no? We've tried undoing him twice, but he just undos our edits and I don't feel like edit warring. Thanks! --Pokemaster 97 01:52, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the user is saying it is Season 2 because it is included on the Orange Islands DVD boxset. However, it really is a Season 1 episode. Season 1 theme, belongs to the Indigo arc, etc. But I agree a MOD intervention would be great. --Hoenn Master 05:28, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

?

Umm I'm not sure if you're the person to ask about this and I'm also not sure if this is where I'm supposed to ask you, but I had a question. Is there an article that lists all the pronunciations for every Pokémon, because I haven't been able to find one and I wanted to make that article if it doesn't exist (assuming there's nothing wrong with that). I just wanted to make sure I didn't make the same article twice and it seems like something that would have been made by now. Thanks Frenchhorn 21:18, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

We don't list pronunciations because there is no official agreement on pronunciations. All forms of media differ on some Pokemon, be it the characters or narrator of the anime, announcers in the games, or even Nintendo themselves in various publications. -- MAG NE DETH 21:51, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Because this such a reccouring topic, why don't we make an page (either in the userspace or in mainspace) with all the known pronunciations for each Pokémon? Truth seeker 4449 22:46, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

AIM

Mind popping on for 5 minutes? I won't try to keep you on long. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ ♥ 09:02, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi

I love the third day of Christmas, wait didn't we do that already? Truth seeker 4449 01:52, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm really not in charge of making that. The least I can do is inform the other admins. --ケンジの ガール 03:10, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

A proposal

Hey, KG...I've been wondering. Since we have a "Differences between the films" on the M14 page, I had an idea. Why don't we add a gallery of pictures to show the differences between the films? It'd show the differences better... Ataro 03:02, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea. --ケンジの ガール 03:10, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Ursula's Gabite

Hi Kenji, I want to get your opinion on whether Ursula's Gabite is actually female or not. Though it has the appearance of a girl, I dont think any male Gabite have appeared in the anime, besides the Mystery Dungeon one, which had the appearance of a female. Since the anime (possibly) only uses the female's design, Ursula's Gabite could be of either gender, and I think it should be treated like any other Pokemon with gender differences until a male is seen, for example Dodrio. Vuvuzela2010 Δ 17:24, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

The difference between Gabite and Dodrio is that Gabite is a Generation IV Pokémon while Dodrio isn't. But I have to admit this is walking down a dangerous road of uncertainty with the whole Mystery Dungeon special. This would also have to mean dealing with other Pokémon who we label by their gender difference, not just Gabite. Shinx, Buizel, Bibarel, Garchomp, and Gible are just a few of them. --ケンジの ガール 08:58, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

User:Satoshi101/Ursula's Plusle and Minun

Is this page notable? -- ✔Poké.geek™✔ 18:33, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Please be patient, I am still working on it. I'd rather you not discuss this before I have shown my prototype (Userspace article) to her. サトシ 22:21, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

OK, now it's ready. What do you think, Kenji? サトシ 00:14, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

I really don't see this being mainspaced to be honest. All of this can fit perfectly on her page. They also didn't do that much. --ケンジの ガール 05:56, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Well the thing is Plusle and Minun are her other main Pokémon. I think needing more than 2 episodes, a cameo in another episode, and a movie cameo (in the credits) is a lot to ask, considering the fact that unlike her other Pokémon (except Gabite) have only made major appearances in 1 episode, and never appearing after that. I don't see why they should be treated as Trainers-Pokémon-of-the-day. サトシ 00:14, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

All Plusle and Minun did was scare Dawn and battled, nothing else. Patty Man 00:22, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

They were in a contest, though. And not to mention her Gabite just did contests, nothing else. サトシ 00:31, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Why do you compare to Gabite? He is the primary of her, have nothing to discuss, PluMinus have did nothing after his debut appearance and to complete the article that you did is copy and paste this on the main page of Ursula.--Hikaru Wazana 01:35 - 6 January 2012 (UTC)

They did appear after their debut a few times. They even cameoed in the 14th movie credits. Who could ask for more? And I'm not the only one who suggested this, another user previously did. Sorry if I was too lazy to write a summary myself but I was hoping to use what I pasted there as a starting point. サトシ 23:31, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

They appeared only in three episodes and aren't her signature Pokémon. A cameo in the movie credits is hardly a reason to give them an article. --ケンジの ガール 02:43, 7 January 2012 (UTC)\

I never said they were her signature Pokémon. I said that after Gabite, they were her other main Pokémon. Neither did I say they should have an article because they cameoed in the 14th movie credits. It was because they were in 3 episodes, which is about the minimum amount a trainer's Pokémon deserves its own article. サトシ 05:58, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

"They even cameoed in the 14th movie credits. Who could ask for more?" - I'm sorry but that really sounds like you were implying that it is. Anyway, their first two appearances can basically count as one long episode. The other one was a minor cameo in the appeals round. --ケンジの ガール 23:49, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Then I guess it should stay on Ursula's page unless they make more appearances, which is very unlikely since both Ash and Dawn's adventures in Sinnoh have long been over. サトシ 02:26, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Lavender Town Syndrome

Me again, so recently I've been busying myself reading Lavender Town Syndrome stories. I noticed we don't have an article about it. I think it is article-worthy. It has lots of fan-based media and is highly controversial. So again, if there is no trouble, I can make this article. - unsigned comment from Frenchhorn (talk • contribs)

It is not article-worthy. It was a made-up story some guy made to scare little kids. I am making a user article about it, but it won't be mainspaced anytime soon. Pokedex493 01:21, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Okay, for some reason my signature screwed up. Pokedex493 01:22, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I think that was me. We have articles that come completely from fan based media, like nuzlocke challenge. If you type "lavender" (or just the letters "lave") into Google, Lavender Town Syndrome comes up before Lavender Town itself does. There are fan-fictions, Youtube videos, all kinds of media out there. Just because it isn't real doesn't mean that it can't have an article. Frenchhorn 02:09, 6 January 2012 (UTC) I think I can make a legitimate article for it, we post popular rumors quite often. Like the rumor about the truck having a Mew under it in RGB and the rumor about the scientist in the space center in Mossdeep that will allow you to go to the moon and catch a Jirachi/Deoxys is Ruby/Sapphire and Emerald. If we can present that in an article, I can present Lavender town syndrome. I think it's fair enough to add a section about it to the Lavender Town page. Frenchhorn 00:35, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm the wrong person to talk about if fan based things are notable or not. All I know is I heard of Nuzlocke and the truck, but never heard of Lavender Town stories. --ケンジの ガール 02:43, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I think a section on the Lavender Town page would be good. An entire article is unnecessary, but it's certainly famous enough to deserve a section on Lavender Town. --SnorlaxMonster 12:01, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Question/Suggestion

Hi. I've been editing several pages in the Pokémon anime section relating to the voice actors, etc, and I had a bit of a suggestion regarding to the voice actor "switch" (Oh! I'm so thankful that "controversy" is over). Anyway, since similar things have happened in other languages at different points in the series (such as European Portuguese with Season 10), and the VA is listed as simply: "VA A: EP001-DP139; VA B: DP140-Present", etc, I don't think it would be a bad idea for the same to be the case with the English since the episodes handled by TPCi is technically just a continuation of the 4Kids dub (making them different parts of the same "dub"), and that referring to each VA as being a part of different dubs would technically be incorrect (there's also the fact that technically PUSA/TPCi has been a part of the English dub from the beginning). At the very least I think referring to the specific VA's "cast" instead of "dub" would be more accurate, although it might still be a tad confusing for those unfamiliar with the cast switch (I know several dedicated Pokémon fans in real life who only noticed a couple characters' voices changing, and might be confused at the whole "4Kids dub/TPCi dub", "4Kids cast/TPCi cast" thing), and might get more information out of a more specific listing. What do you think? --HalloweenPistol13 08:09, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

That's sounds like a good idea. If you start, just make sure that you know the correct episodes they start/stop in. --ケンジの ガール 23:49, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Alright. I'll get onto it! The only page I'll need assistance on is Ash Ketchum since only Admins are allowed to change it, but otherwise, I think I've got this under control. --HalloweenPistol13 03:39, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Officer Jenny's Hurdier

I think that since Hurdier will be Officer Jenny's main Pokémon in Unova, we should create an article for it. We know another one has appeared in BW052, so that would be 2 (and counting) appearances. What do you think? サトシ 19:41, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

I agree. There's articles on Officer Jenny's Growlithe, Nurse Joy's Chansey and Audino so Officer Jenny's Hurdier should have an article. ZMT123 19:45, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Two episodes only. Not notable enough. Unlike Joy, Jenny uses a variety of different Pokémon. At least in Unova. --ケンジの ガール 23:49, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

But keep in mind that it will be the equivelent to their Growlithes. What we could do, however, is just wait until it gets more appearances. サトシ 02:23, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

That's what KG was trying to say. More major appearances equals more notability--SandmanDP 03:30, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I was pointing out that there weren't only gonna be 2 Hurdier, and that eventually it would be notable. サトシ 23:32, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Episode titling punctuation

I noticed that the names of Pokemon episodes are punctuated on Bulbapedia with italics. I've learned that italics are used only for names of novels, films, television programs, and, when they were produced, Radio serials. Quotations are used for names of television episodes and shorts and poems, and I'm pretty sure something else. To open up episode articles, there's no punctuation in the English title, dub and translated. I know it would seem to be a long and tedious sub-project, but I'd be more than willing to help. Would you approve my doing this?--SandmanDP 22:18, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I feel that the italics are better than the quotes. Quotes don't get used around here unless we quote someone, among other things. --ケンジの ガール 23:49, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

But shouldn't proper grammar trump personal feeling?--SandmanDP 23:58, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

It should, unless there is an executive decision deciding otherwise. Hi, I'm the executive decision. It is true that in general episode names are quoted, but that isn't the case here for two reasons.

The first being that when the site was initially being built, someone decided to italicize them. Why did they do this? I don't know, but the fact of the matter is now we have thousands and thousands of italic episode titles all over the site. This would be an insane task to revert, but it isn't really a paramount issue because of reason number 2.

They look fine. Ok, there's more to it than that, but the basis being that they are clear and easily definable among other words so it doesn't really matter that much. Add into the first factor of there being so many and you have to ask, is it worth spending such a large amount of time to fix something that isn't really a big deal?

Yes it's wrong, but it isn't exactly going to break the site so for the time being, or the foreseeable future. We have many other projects both in planning, and at the ready, so the episode names shall remain italic. Besides, this is Bulbapedia, we do things different than everyone else. It's what makes us unique. -- MAG NE DETH 00:13, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Seems hypocritical on account of the grammar corrections that are constantly done. Why follow some grammar rules and ignore others?--SandmanDP 00:39, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Did you read my reply? I gave you three different answers to your question. -- MAG NE DETH 00:55, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

One little question

Ok, I think you should already be tired of answering this kind of stuff, but I wonder if I have your approval to create a page for Drew's Masquerain and Drew's Flygon. After all, Masquerain was used to gain a Ribonn for Drew, used in a battle against Team Rocket and May, used in two Grand Festivals and Flygon was used in both battles against May in both championships, used to try to capture Arcanine ,had few cameos during the Battle Frontier and used against Robert in the Grand Festival.--Hikaru Wazana 02:58 - 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Please see this

And I don't believe Masquerain did enough to warrant an article. It's article was also decided to be merged as the decision of the EB just like Flygon was. --ケンジの ガール 04:12, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

About this ...

Just out of curiosity, but the Pokemon of Ash's rivals are more notable than those of female characters in the series?

I mean, Harrison has a lot less appearances that Drew have and obtain pages to your main Pokemon(I'm not saying they do not notable, just to be able to better understand the rules), and if you count only the appearances of the Drew's Pokemon and them Harley's give more episodes than the appearances of Harrison own.

I'm not objecting, just wondering...

Taking advantage of the post, I've been there a while doing a page on Ash's rivals. I wonder if she has any chance of becoming part of the site mainspace or she will have to be deleted as of Cynthia when I was working?--Hikaru Wazana 02:18 - 15 January 2012 (UTC)

If I may put in my two cents, the page honestly has poor grammar, poor structure, and just putting the Starter Pokémon, especially when many are unconfirmed, is incomplete and speculative. To put the "Jaywalking" in "Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking", the r would be lowercase ie "Ash's rivals"--SandmanDP 02:24, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

The page is not ready, I'm just presenting the concept to see if I can go ahead with it.--Hikaru Wazana 02:31 - 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Not even sure what you mean by Ash's rival Pokémon being more notable than female characters. I'm not saying it's impossible for them to ever have an article. I just need to talk it over with the others. The point is we don't need someone to put a page in their userspace when the page already exists. As I said at the top, the redirects can just be reverted.

And like I said before, the rival page would at least have to have a better format before I can consider it. I don't care for the fanon terminology at the top to be honest. But it can possibly get on the site if the format is made presentable. Maybe you should refer to Ash's friends.

And to Sandman, the title of the page is not really an issue as we can just move it to the proper title when it's ready.--ケンジの ガール 18:25, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

SandmanDP

Please block this user. He is violating so many rules, and he refuses to listen. サトシ 23:00, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

There is no evidence that I violated any rules. Please stop asking for something just because someone disagrees with you--SandmanDP 23:01, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh, you violated many! And you do not just disagree, you are being way too extreme! I am not exaggerating! サトシ 23:06, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Question about Genders of Anime Pokemon

Hey, it's me again. When was Chikorita confirmed as female and how come Cyndaquil and Totodile weren't? I now know how all of Ash's Sinnoh and Unova Pokemon were considered a certain gender because he's at least met one Pokemon with Attract in each of the 2 sagas and he only kept a team of 6 Pokemon. (MichaelXD 04:49, 12 January 2012 (UTC))

Nurse Joy said Chikorita was female in the original version of Chikorita's Big Upset. --ケンジの ガール 08:08, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Scraggy and Pinwheel Forest

Hey Kenji. Last year you said that the location where Scraggy hatched from his egg wasn't the Pinwheel Forest. However, the Pinwheel Forest articles says that the area they are in was the Pinwheel Forest. Obviously one should be changed to be correct but I'm curious as to what you would say would be the correct one. --Hoenn Master 17:33, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

They made it pretty clear that they hadn't arrived in Pinwheel Forest until BW018. Otherwise they would have said so in BW017. --ケンジの ガール 13:00, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

If I might add, we list those kinds of things by route, and if you notice there's not a route outside Nacrene City. It just goes straight into the outskirts of the forest. So that's likely where it lead to some confusion. ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ ♥ 15:35, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Santa's Delibird

Is this article notable? It only appeared in one short, and none of its attacks were even shown. Littlmiget123 16:01, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Hmm... from what I remember, maybe not. --ケンジの ガール 16:08, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

BW064

I noticed that you edited the thread for that episode recently, I think to include Professor Juniper, maybe because of the preview on Pokemon Smash. Though, we knew that because of the VA list, which I stated on the talk page for that episode. I'd also like to point out that Oshawott is in the episode because it spoke in the last 10 seconds of the preview on thursday. The VA list also lists Excadrill and Krokorok, possibly the Sunglasses Krokorok one, for being in this episode. Playerking95 00:04, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Can I have a link to the VA list? Because I am not finding it anywhere. --ケンジの ガール 01:53, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Here. ♫♪ エイディニズ ♪♫ 05:30, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Trainer Pokémon sections

Hey KG, I was wondering about some pages that have lots of different sections under a "Pokémon" section. Namely the professors. For example, if you take a look at Professor Oak, his Pokémon sections say "On hand", "Status unknown", "Gives to new trainers"; and then it sort of forgets the section it's in so it has to remind itself; "Pokémon he gave away to trainers", "Pokémon residing at Oak's Lab", and "Pokémon that previously resided at Oak's lab." Can we reword the last three so they don't include the word "Pokémon"? It seemed redundant to me, and it makes articles like Professor Elm confusing when we have a "Pokémon he gave away to trainers" section and a "Given away" section. What's your opinion? ^★Jo the Marten^★ ಠ_ಠ ♥ 23:09, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Sure. --ケンジの ガール 23:20, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Possible new page idea

Hey Kenji, I know this isn't really anime related, but a long time ago a discussion was held on this page in which you suggested that we should put all the Watering items as their own page instead of them having their own individual pages. I decided to come up with a "rough draft" of what I think the page could look like and was wondering what you think. I kind of wanted to see if it was ok continuing to make this before I go through all the work of editing it. Right now I just have a section for the Squirtbottle but I would also add sections for the Wailmer Pail and Sprayduck as well as a section for their brief appearances in the anime. --Hoenn Master 06:58, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I think the page has potential. Looking good so far. --ケンジの ガール 20:25, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Just wondering, can I create a page for all the recurring characters . ✔Pokégeek™✔ 12:14, 26 January 2012 (UTC)