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Hi

I noticed you have been editing the User: namespace a lot today. You may not be aware of this, but Bulbapedia has a Userspace policy that asks users to try and minimize the number of userspace edits they make in a short period of time. Instead of making multiple edits, why not use the Preview button (Alt + Shift + P) located right next to the edit button to look at your page and see how it is coming? That way, your page can look great while staying within the required amount of edits. Instead of editing the userspace, as a wiki, we encourage users to edit the mainspace. So, if you edit the mainspace more often, you will be allowed to edit the userspace more. Thanks! ----freezingCOLD (page, talk) 22:22, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey Jo, could you by chance post the best Party Table for XD. Thanks. General Ownage Message Box

Never mind about that. BTW: Your one hell of a trainer. I'm more of a battler, but then again I don't participate in contests too much. General Ownage Message Box 02:35, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Usertags

As per the Bulbapedia:Usertag policy, usertags must first be created in the userspace, and have at least 5 users using it. I'll leave it in template namespace for now, since it's likely more people might use this tag. Jellotalk 22:36, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Ah right, sorry about that. Jo The Marten 22:40, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Jo! You messaged me earlier about me asking how to make a Usertag and I was wondering if you could help me make a couple. Pikababy 17:31, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Regarding PokéPark Pad entries...

You're a nutter for deciding to transcribe them all, but bravo on the accomplishment and rather distinguished contribution. Hexagon Theory 07:35, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Heh, thanks. Rather an ironic one as well considering it'll probably be deleted as soon as we transfer them all to the Pokémon pages they belong on. But Werdnae suggested I do it so I did. :B Jo The Marten 07:19, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Well, the contributions will still be yours; you'll be able to look at those pages and go, "Nice! I made that happen." - unsigned comment from Hexagon Theory (talkcontribs)
And now you can start if you like. There's now a space in the Sidegame template for it. The parameter for the entry is Pad. If the Pad parameter has something in it then the section will show up on the page automatically. Thanks for doing all that work to get their entries. Werdnae (talk) 08:12, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
I'll work on it tomorrow. I'm just adding stuff to the Zone pages for now, then probably gonna go to bed. Speaking of zones, would you mind moving Meeting Center? It's not actually called the Meeting Center in the game. Jo The Marten 08:16, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Done. It didn't seem to be protected, so you could have done it yourself if you wanted. Just something I noticed when I went to do one myself, it looks like a line break (<br/>) will need to be inserted between the sentences when you add it so it doesn't get extremely wide. And don't feel pressured to do it or anything. Werdnae (talk) 08:34, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Erm, why should a line break be required? Could you not make it so that the Pal portion of the template was a div with width set to 100%? Hexagon Theory 08:37, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Or we could do it the easy, obvious way like you suggested. It already is set to 100%. The problem is that the width of the outer table wasn't set. I've fixed that though, so the linebreak isn't required. Werdnae (talk) 08:51, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Hah, I love the example you put, Werdnae. I figured out a way to take pictures without it being a thirdperson view so I'll upload the new images then I'm done for the day. Think the archives should have images of all the Pokémon? Before you say it's a bit much, consider that there are sprites of every Pokémon in the archives from the Mystery Dungeon titles. Jo The Marten 08:56, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
I think that would be a good idea. Hopefully all that stuff can be incorporated into the sprite box once it gets a redesign or something. Werdnae (talk) 09:05, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Alright. I'll work on it tomorrow. I'll also see about getting the icons used in the Attractions somehow. And don't worry, I'll be fine after some sleep. Jo The Marten 09:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Re: Attraction chart

Thanks :) Hm...yea, it probably would work better in the zone articles. Also any help with getting these tables together would be greatly appreciated. I'm actually trying to see if I can work out a theoretical "maximum score" for each Pokémon now (by actually playing the game). For Ursaring, Hitmonlee, Magmortar, Electivire and Metagross, you can easily obtain the maximum score of 99,999. I'm trying out Torchic right now but I can't seem to get any higher than 30,000. I'm thinking of putting the maximum score for it at 25-30,000. OnixPachirisu 23:43, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Body size

If you'd like to hold up for two seconds, I'll automate that. —darklordtrom 11:08, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Sure. I was only trying to help in the only way I knew how. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 11:09, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
No probs. I've set the {{sidegame}} template up so that it automatically categorizes every Pokémon by body size. But thanks for taking the initiative :) —darklordtrom 11:11, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Mission complete.

High five!

Comment about user page :)

"Oh and I affectionately call Porygon-Z "Speak-and-Spell" ever since I heard his voice in PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Adventure. "

Hehe, that voice was sketchy. Any idea why they used that kind of voice for it? OnixPachirisu 19:54, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Oops =x

I hope Groudon doesn't give me too much homework today. T_T Vemoth 17:26, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Kilograms

The reason kilograms were removed in the weight page is because there is a seperate page for kg. --Absol21990 22:03, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

As it would happen, I DID have some more questions. For instance, how many edits do I need to make before customizing my user page? How do I add pokemon to the section of a route's page that says which ones appear there? Why can't Feraligatr learn waterfall? And lots more I won't barrage you with.Crystal4Life 02:06, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

1. That is a secret even I don't know. It honestly shouldn't be your main concern. :3 You came here to help the website, not create a personal profile.
2. Template:catch/entryhs
3. It can't?
4. Keep discussions on one talk page, alright?
Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 02:11, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


Janovy/Servine

Why can't it be updated? --Loghomewill (Chat with me!)''(Trainers) 21:00, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Cause it's not official. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 21:01, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh... Sorry for wasting your time. --Loghomewill (Chat with me!)''(Trainers) 21:03, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
You're not wasting my time. It's better you know than to make the same mistake twice. :P Just remember that other fan sites are not considered reliable resources, no matter how many of them post the same data. :) Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 21:06, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Okay, Thanks! It was posted on Bulbanews, so I just thought it was official. --Loghomewill (Chat with me!)''(Trainers) 21:07, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Nah, that was an accident as far as I know. An accident that stirred up a lot of commotion. But the official site cleared it up. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 21:09, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Oh. Thanks again. I'm still sorta new and mistakes are the best way to learn, so, by now I guess I'm a genius. --Loghomewill (Chat with me!)''(Trainers) 21:19, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Squirtle's Gender

Why did you revert all my edits referring to Squirtle's gender as unknown? I provided the reasoning and policy of the wiki for it and you just changed them. --Jda95 05:43, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

However, the Japanese version did apparently confirm him to be male. If it's said in the original version we usually go with it, as the English or other dubs might add or remove things. --P S Yライダー 05:52, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
I gave my reasoning in the talk page, the personal pronoun Zenigame uses in EP017 does not necessarily mean its a male, as often tough girls in anime and manga use the pronoun. I've brought the issue to the attention of Kenji-girl who I've asked to give a verdict. --Jda95 06:25, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

For catching and fixing that error on the Archaic page. ^_^ --«ιɴмɴιαc» 21:13, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Not a problem. :3 Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 22:51, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Project Tags

Hey, can you help me put the Project tags on the Oblivia pages? I can get the Sidegames; will you do the locations? I have to do something but will be back in 2 hours. Pokabu82 22:32, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Congratjolations

GoldenBulbasaur.png Congratulations! For your outstanding service to Bulbapedia you have been awarded the Golden Bulbasaur Award for January, 2011 by the Bulbapedia editorial board!

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Jo, you are pro at wiki. Because of all the time and effort and blood (or so I heard) that went into those PokéPark Wii articles, you get the number one sparkler. (Also you ditched Wikia, so you got some brownie points there.) Keep it up! —darklordtrom 09:32, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Just wondering

Why you did this? because now it has two Offense and Defense sections. If there is a reason to keep it, uh just revert me :) Dion24 05:26, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

I can see where this is going since there was already a separate section for those under characteristics and we thought it was a vandalism edit. Course if I was the one who dealt with it first before you did it yourself then I would have gotten the message instead since I was also monitoring the recent changes. -Tyler53841 05:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Oh, oops. D: I just noticed a LARGE amount of info being removed and thought it was vandalism. I didn't notice it was on the page twice. Welp, I apologize then, and thanks for catching it. :) Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 05:35, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
I sent a message to CamjChari‎'s talk page to explain what they could had done to avoid making either of us think it was a vandalism edit. -Tyler53841 05:38, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Aye, I've sent a message of apology to him. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 05:50, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
I think you meant "sent" and not "seen", but anyway I've seen it and this pretty much brings this matter to a close. -Tyler53841 05:56, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

OK.

Thanks for telling me. --RECGameboy2 00:44, 14 April 2011 (UTC)


Hi!

Sorry for the inclusion of those categories and templates, is the first time I'm trying to create an article for the wiki. I'm completely newbie with this.

Since you saw the page tell me if I made a more errors (except for mistakes in English, I want to fix, of course)please??

What do you think of little that is completed it? The opinion of someone more experienced with the site I would be very useful.

Thanks again. -Hikaru Wazana 01:30, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Friends list

Hi. You just told me that I can't have a friends list. If I deleted it right now, would I get in trouble (I've already edited my page once today)? :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 01:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Also, I have another question. If I made a usertag does that count as a user space edit? :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 01:19, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I believe so. Because User tags are initially made in the user space and are later main spaced. So you would be editing the user space. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 01:27, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
That's too bad. :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 01:27, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
Okay, now that my privliges to edit my userpage has returned, can I delete my friends list with it not counting as an edit? :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 00:10, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
Nope, it still counts. So while you remove it, better get whatever other editing you want to do out of the way as well. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 00:17, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
Well, I was gonna make a usertag, but I guess I must wait until tomorrow. Sigh... :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 00:19, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Bad edit

Sorry for the apparently bad edit on Misty's page. I forgot one second too late that trivia can't be added. Sorry. :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 01:06, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but

Is there any way I can condense my navigation template at the top of my userpages into a code like the other templates? :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 20:25, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

You mean make it so you can just use a template code? If you give it its own subpage under your user space (Such as "User:SuperAipom7/Nav" or whatever you like) you can use "{{User:SuperAipom7/Nav}}" so that way you won't have a huge code all over your page. Is that what you were asking? (Oh and doing this WILL count towards the one user page edit) Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 20:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
That's exactly what I meant. How do you do that? :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 20:58, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Either search for the page title you want to make and where it says "This page does not exist. Make this page?", or go to your page, and in the URL at the top of your browser type in "/Pagenametitle" after your username so again it'll show up like "User:SuperAipom7/Pagenametitle"and it should take you to a blank article page you can create. But after you make it, you'll need to wait until tomorrow before you add it to your page. (And don't forget to do some hard work on the main space ;) ) Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 21:03, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. Sorry for all of the questions. Just trying to get used to this website. :--SuperAipom7 (Questions?) 21:10, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
It's no problem. By asking questions, you learn things. :) Certainly easier than making tons of mistakes and getting yelled at for it. And don't be afraid to ask other admins if I'm not around. They're all quite friendly. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 21:16, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

My user page

I can't create my user page. Can you put a character or two so I can create it, please? --Braviapert - (Questions?) 19:41, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Nope. Sorry, that's your job. You've got to help out around the main space before you're allowed to make a userpage. If you'd like to just have a profile, and not help out, you can make an account on the forums when they come back up. This is not MySpace, and you'll need to be constructive and earn your userpage. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 19:46, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Too bad... --Braviapert - (Questions?) 19:49, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
I'm just going to add here that even if someone were to break the rules and help you circumvent the userspace policy, until you've had your account for a short time and made a number of mainspace edits, you can't edit it. The restriction's not on creating. Werdnae (talk) 19:53, 24 May 2011 (UTC)


Excadrill

The history section should always be in the past tennse remember, Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 12:17, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

and you also need to mention what episode your talking about, not in the pre-searies bit, the bit with langley, sorry I'd do it myself but the page is protected Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 12:20, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

In case you didn't see

It's A Connoisseurer's Revenge!. I made a boo-boo. I think it's supposed to be the feminine form. --ケンジガール 04:17, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

I did notice xD; I've fixed my mistake. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 04:18, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
You really ought to get on sometime tonight, or maybe tomorrow. :3 Somethings we need to talk about. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 06:40, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Tomorrow definitely. Not tonight though. There's something I have to do in the morning. --ケンジガール 07:00, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Egg cycles

I was just wondering, wouldnt it be an okay idea to add a section on the game version of the pokemon pages where it shows the egg cycles, egg rate, etc? (Not the Egg Cycle/Egg Rate page itself, the actual pages for each pokemon)

Hunter103 21:42, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Egg Cycles, Egg Groups, etc. can already be found in the infoboxes for the respective Pokémon. There's no reason to make a section for it. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 21:50, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Oh, really? I didnt even notice, wow. Now that i go and check, you're right. Hunter103 22:01, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! :)

Hope you had a great day today! BTW, love the new userpage, totally FAB!!! TTYL --ジェダイの騎士デジタルテレビ 05:38, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! I had a very good day actually. :) And thanks again, I had been working on it for months. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 05:39, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Happy Birthday Jo <3 Diamond Lanturn CodeName: 05308 09:29, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Happy B-day Ataro 09:32, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Happy Birthday! And your userpage really has Good Taste! :) --Den Zen 09:47, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Happy late birthday, sorry about that song I posted, I just thought it would be funny to other people. Just had to think.Pikatwig 16:12, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Re: Abyssal Ruins

OK, as far as I know there is no /official/ translation. However, that said, I see no reason that we can't add them considering that its clearly a simple code once you know the cipher. Seriously, you can go to the ruins yourself and check the code like myself, it works. Even if nintendo hadn't officially revealed this to us I see no reason why we can't add this information, since a.) its just simple cryptography and b.) things nintendo hasn't "official" revealed to us before have been added to bulbapedia (e.g. event pokemon like Arceus, Shaymin, Meloetta & Genesect, the latter two still not being "officially" revealed). Thirdly, the game guide teases that there is meaning behind the symbols (quote, the abyssal ruins section: "Check these stones and you will see they are covered in mysterious letters...what could be written here?) Lastly, I feel it would be a great shame to see all this clearly correct information be disregarded on a technicality (if said technicality exists). The message is as verifiable as can be IMO and I strongly feel that it should remain. Green Zubat 02:17, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

While it's true it says something, how did they come about choosing these exact translations? It's odd that the letters change throughout the floors. Also, it's true Arceus & co. weren't officially revealed, but we could still read their names etc. We can't read this. Someone could make the message say anything they want to and pass it off as official translation. Perhaps TPCi will release translations eventually, perhaps they won't. But I'm not sure whether to consider this research, or just fan speculation... I'll ask some of the other staff about it. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 02:30, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
OK, thanks. I know its odd how it works but at the end of the day, it does work. I mean, isn't it really just equivalent to GF leaving info in the game in a foreign language and not "revealing" what they say? Like those people you meet on other routes?Green Zubat 02:35, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Well....the difference there is that French is an actual language. :P If you speak French, you can translate that. No one speaks these gibberish symbols though~ At least no one I've seen. Even Hylian has a way of translating. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 02:44, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Ah, but the thing is these symbols aren't gibberish, they're apparent gibberish, just like French to any non-speaker and just like French (or any other language) there's a clear order to both, not just nonsense and if you how to translate them (i.e. if you speak french or know the cipher respectively) then you can discern that order. The french language & Cryptography are both established practices and GF included them both into the game without "revealing" it, hence they should both be elaborated on in articles about those sections of the game, no?Green Zubat 02:51, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Oh, and P.S., in the event that the symbols are Cuneiform as many believe they are (and actual, real world script) does that validate them further?Green Zubat 02:56, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Sure, if it's an actual language, that could validate things right up. By the way, I tested it out in-game. Would you mind supplying the link to the Gaia post that you found this on? Might answer a few more questions. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 03:02, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
I included it in the talk page, here it is. There's also this one which gets the same message after supposedly cross referencing other sites and countless others as a quick google search will show. Also, where you said "someone could make it say anything" that's not how cryptography/ciphers work, any attempt to use the fake cipher on the code should show the weakness.Green Zubat 03:07, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
P.S. As for whether or not it is cuneiform, I don't know because I don't know that script well enough, though from what I can gather there are several forms, one of which the abyssal ruins supposedly pertains to.Green Zubat 03:11, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm about to go to bed now, 'cause its super late over here however before I go (in case you were still wondering how they got the translation) I'd forgotten earlier to mention [specifically] the code was cracked by trial & error - testing different letters in different positions to see how they fit, that's usually how decoding a cipher works. Silktree/the OP admits that here. Also, thanks for taking the time to actually consider this; I'll watch this space for updatesGreen Zubat 04:30, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

BW039

Is there any reason why you are doubting the Pokemon Smash preview, by putting the Pokemon that appeared in it, in "hidden" tags (or whatever technical name is for those arrow things)? --Dman dustin 17:41, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Because there were two previews shown, one in the middle of the show, and one shown at the end of the show. The one at the end of the show is typically for the upcoming episode, but it looked like the other preview was for the tournament in general. I don't remember them saying it was specifically for BW039 or if they took clips from all four episodes and mashed them together. If you've got any proof that they're from BW039, by all means show it. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 18:42, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello

Yesterday you told me that my subpage was breaking a policy, by encouraging non-Pedia discussion on a talk page. What i do NOT understand is why it seems like a game or a mission. I've seen that on the policy and i don't see how i broke that rule. This is not to talk back or anything, i just need an answer. Thanks from EvilKirikizan 22:21, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

It seemed like it was turned into a "Who can make the most random comment" game. It'd be better if it were taken here and left off Bulbapedia's main site. Thank you. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 22:40, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Recharge moves

If a Pokémon uses a variation of Hyper Beam in the anime and doesn't recharge, and uses it many times in a row. Does that count as an anime error? I do know that Games =/= Anime. PattyMan 23:08, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Nope. The anime is too inconsistent in terms of recharge moves, or moves like Hi Jump Kick or Take Down where the user takes damage. Sometimes they might mention a recharge, other times they'll forget about it and Pokémon may use moves over and over without caring about a recharge. Probably because the anime is much less "turn based" than the games are and trainers just call out orders left and right. Plus the game has them for balancing things out while the anime only has a story, so they'll bend the rules a bit to help move the story along. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 23:20, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Comment on an old discussion

The reason I commented on the old discussions was that I was asking for something to be re posted. I was not the one to post the piece of trivia, but someone deleted a completely relevant piece of trivia on the page for the Pokemon Treeko. The piece of trivia stated how Treeko walked on all fours in Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue team, even though he is known to be bipedal. Somebody deleted this just because he walks on two feet in the newest Mystery Dungeon games. I commented there because I think that this should be re posted. Thank you for your time. Darynu 02:46, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

A question of Skarmory

Can Skarmory use "Steel Coat" to search an Special Metal Energy from the player's deck? It just said "Search your deck for a Metal Energy card". --847418742/Talk 08:27, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

I would say no, but I could be wrong. I'm still trying to get a tighter grip on the TCG rules, but typically it seems like special energies you have to draw from your deck or prize manually. But if you want a more genuine answer, you should probably ask Nate. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 13:53, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
OK, thank you very much.--847418742/Talk 08:00, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the advice to tell the truth I'm very emotional person. Pikatwig 23:53, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Objective?

What's with those eggs on the top of the screen? Pikatwig 17:23, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

When my talk page is full, one of the eggs will hatch and turn into an archive. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 18:41, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Pokedex Edit

I added a History section to the article Pokedex and it was reverted.All my info was confirmed way back in Pokemon4Ever,care to tell me something about this ? - unsigned comment from Skarm (talkcontribs)

It isn't anything I personally remember from M04. Apparently the person who reverted you hadn't heard it either. I'll watch the movie later tonight and get back to you. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 01:51, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Alright then.Sammy explicitly stated all that info Skarm 02:45, 18 July 2011 (UTC)