User:Disaster Flare/Shadow Pokémon
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This page has my opinions on the Pokémon Colosseum and XD Shadow Pokémon and whether they were good to be in or not. There may be two pages. One for Colosseum and one for XD, considering how many more Pokémon are in XD. They both will also have opinions on the regular Pokémon that appear in it too and whether they should've been in it or not. NOTE: I am NOT trying to rip off MAGNEDETH's list of Pokémon Green sprites. These are my full honest opinions and it only takes inspiration from the pages.
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Shadow Pokémon
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Makuhita | ![]() |
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While Makuhita and Hariyama are good when it comes to Attack, they're not great on Speed. I found Makuhita to be quite frustrating in both Colosseum and XD, but if you play your strategies just right, Makuhita can be a good ally. | Makuhita was in both Colosseum and XD, so if they ever do another game, I'd say why not? Also, what would happen if you untie that knot on its head? |
Bayleef | ![]() |
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Bayleef is more so great when it comes to a defensive party rather than an offensive party, due to its high Defense and Sp. Defense. I didn't choose Bayleef as the first one mainly for that reason. | Starters have always been a big part in Pokémon, though I'd say Bayleef and the gang would be better off as either their evolutions or pre-evolutions. Starting with the middles isn't very smart sometimes in my opinion. |
Quilava | ![]() |
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Quilava is the best one to get first in Colosseum, mainly because it's balanced in terms of Attack and Defense. I found Quilava easy to train because of that reason, and only runs into trouble in Super Effective situations and higher leveled Pokémon. | Read Bayleef's for what I think. |
Croconaw | ![]() |
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Croconaw is only good if you want to go for offensive rather than defense or a mix of both. Feraligatr is a good Pokémon, but I'd say Quilava has the win on this one. | Read Bayleef's for what I think. |
Slugma | ![]() |
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Here's where things start to go downhill. Slugma and Magcargo are both pretty bad Pokémon in general, unless you're looking for a wall, and even then, that's only when it evolves, but of course, this isn't XD, so long story short, you've got a bad Pokémon that's not worth anything at all unless you have the patience to evolve it. | Heck no. Genius Sonority could've done much better than Slugma. |
Noctowl | ![]() |
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Noctowl has the same issue as Umbreon. Really cool looking Pokémon, but they both have stats that don't fit their play style. Noctowl is high in Sp. Attack and Sp. Defense, but not in Attack and Defense. Since most of its attacks are physical and not special, at least until Gen IV, Noctowl was pretty much useless back in the Gen III days. | It could work nowadays because of the special moves it has now, but the damage is done. Thanks a lot Genius. |
Flaaffy | ![]() |
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Flaaffy was actually a pretty decent one in my opinion. I use an Ampharos as part of my main party in XD, so I don't see how Flaaffy is a problem. Silly name though. | All good from here.......still a silly name. |
Skiploom | ![]() |
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The Hoppip family in general is only good for those who want a fast and defensive Pokémon, though in my opinion, it's rather stupid. Stupid Pokémon, stupid stats, end of story. | No, no, and no. |
Quagsire | ![]() |
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Quagsire is..........something. High Attack, high Defense, but low Sp. Attack, Sp. Defense and Speed. I only recommend it to those who have enough patience for this one. It can become a bumpy ride if you're not careful. However, if you equip it with a Mystic Water that you could've gotten if you chose Croconaw, you'd have a really beefed up Surf. | The judgmental part of me says no, but the nice part of me says yes. I'll let others decide I guess. |
Misdreavus | ![]() |
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While Misdreavus is another one of those Pokémon that have mainly moves that don't fit their play style, Misdreavus is great to have in your party in Colosseum for three reasons: 1. The AI is so stupid in the game, it's highly likely opponents (Especially Dakim) will use moves that are completely ineffective against it (i.e. Earthquake, any Normal or Fighting type move, etc.). 2. It can learn Pain Split which is great for weakening, or healing, Shadow Pokémon. And 3. It holds a Spell Tag, which will help beef up its Ghost type moves. | While Misdreavus was great to have in Colosseum, I don't think it would work as well in later games, since the only reason it was useful in the first place was because of the game's AI, which was improved "sixfold" in XD. |
Furret | ![]() |
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Overall good Pokémon to have in terms of pretty much every stat. I personally don't use it, but still, good Pokémon to have. | Looks fine to me. |
Yanma | ![]() |
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Again, another serious case of the useless. Sp. Attack stat doesn't quite fit with a Pokémon that's moveset consists mostly of Normal type moves, at least until the higher levels, but still. Yanma is a stupid Pokémon and I don't recommend using it in a party. | I could find a better use for a Shadow Magikarp that only knows a Shadow move similar to Splash. |
Remoraid | ![]() |
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While Remoraid is pretty useless, it can be a great ally if you have the patience to evolve it. If not, then purify it, dump it in your PC and leave it there. | Octillery would be better in my opinion. |
Mantine | ![]() |
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It's a wall. | 'Nuff said. |
Qwilfish | ![]() |
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Yet another case of Umbreon. I don't recommend this to anyone unless they want pure rage in their playthroughs. | I guess we have to wait for XD to get some good Shadow Pokémon. |
Dunsparce | ![]() |
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SERIOUSLY?! Was Genius even trying when they decided this would be a good idea?! Terrible. Just terrible, though I guess it's okay if you were to EV train it in Attack and Defense. | Don't ever pull a stunt like this again Genius. This was just awful. |
Meditite | ![]() |
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Meditite and its evolution both aren't that great in terms of attack. It's more so a wall than anything. The TwistedSpoon it holds is great for Espeon though. | If anything, I think Medicham deserves a go, no matter how bad that sounds. |
Swablu | ![]() |
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While Swablu and Altaria aren't that great in stats, they can be good for a wall that you need to attack too when need be. | I don't think so. It's fine if you can get it in a trade or by Poké Spot, but not as a Shadow Pokémon for either of them. |
Sudowoodo | ![]() |
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Sudowoodo's pretty confusing. It's a strong Pokémon, and that's good, but at the same time, like Makuhita, it's a very slow one. So Sudowoodo's only reliable if you play your strategies just right just like Makuhita. | I think Bonsly might be better, but only as a Poké Spot Pokémon. |
Hitmontop | ![]() |
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Hitmontop is pretty balanced in Attack and Defense. The only issue I found with it was the low Sp. Attack. Long story short, it's a wall, but a darn good wall to have. | Maybe Tyrogue next time, since the other two were already used. |
Entei | ![]() |
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This one I'm actually kinda disappointed about, mainly because Entei's another case of Umbreon. Entei would've been awesome to have in your party, if its stats could fit its play style. | No, The Legendary Dogs have run their course as the "Top Dogs." |