Talk:List of Pokémon the Series: XY episodes

Is it just me, or is the XY024 image huge? Pikachu Bros. (talk) 15:37, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

It's not just you; it's stretching the column. I'll see if it can be fixed. Berrenta (talk) 15:42, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

As the variable that determines the episode title is also used for the image, the only ways that it can be fixed are either a) add a size variable for the image, or b) upload a smaller version. Berrenta (talk) 15:48, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

I added |size=200px to the XY024 {{episodelistbody}} and it's better now. Pikachu Bros. (talk) 15:53, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

What does Enteering mean? Does the word exist? --By: Ciberdavid99: Write me here 07:38, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Episode 29 is the last episdode of Season 17 (Pokémon the Series: XY)?

As far as I've seen, the UK has not aired any more episodes after the 29th, so I guess it could be safe to assume that the 29th episode concludes "Pokémon the Series: XY" outside of Japan. —Platinum Lucario (talk) 13:40, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

We don't assume things though. UK not airing any more episodes before the US doesn't say anything. ☼ BlazingFist ☼ 13:43, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

According to the CITV staff, they will air the remaining episodes of the current season this autumn. Adyniz — Wanna talk? 15:10, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Next season?

I know that speculation is not really a good thing to do, but I feel as though what I'm presenting should be noted for determining when the next season is going to start. The evidence is starting to appear. First off, the dub is reaching the point where the season switches. The lengths of the previous seasons are as follows (note that only episodes that use the epicode count unless otherwise noted, even if the episode did not air):

• Season 1: 80 episodes in Japan, 81 in the English dub, and 52 according to the official Pokémon website (the "official" listing excludes Beauty and the Beach, EP035, and EP038).
• Season 2: 36 episodes in Japan, 35 in the dub, and 49 according to the official Pokémon website (the "official" listing includes Snow Way Out!, but excludes Stage Fright)
• Season 3: 66 episodes in Japan (going by when the opening changed), 41 in the dub, and 52 according to the official Pokémon website (also, while unrelated, the page for this season on the website uses the season 1 logo)
• Season 4: 45 episodes in Japan (going by when the opening changed) and 52 in the dub (the "official" listing matches the dub for this season).
• Season 5: 36 episodes in Japan, 65 in the dub, and 52 according to the official Pokémon website (the "official" listing excludes EP250).
• Season 6: 69 in Japan (going by when the opening changed), 40 in the dub, and 52 according to the official Pokémon website (at this point, the "official" listing matches the actual season changes)
• Season 7: 35 in Japan (going by when the opening changed) and 52 in the dub.
• Season 8: 30 episodes in Japan and 52 in the dub.
• Season 9: 58 episodes in Japan (ignoring the change in the opening) and 47 in the dub.
• Season 10: 78 episodes in Japan (counting the change from Together to Together2008) and 51 in the dub (excluding DP048.
• Season 11: 17 episodes in Japan (going by when the opening changed) and 52 in the dub.
• Season 12: 63 episodes in Japan (going by when the opening changed from High Touch! 2009 to The Greatest - Everyday!) and 52 in the dub (excluding DP120).
• Season 13: 34 episodes in both Japan and the dub.
• Season 14: 84 episodes in Japan and 48 in the dub.
• Season 15: 24 episodes in Japan and 49 in the dub.
• Season 16: 34 episodes in Japan (including Episode N and Decolora Adventure!) and 45 in the dub (including Unova and Beyond).

This results in an average of 44 episodes per season in Japan, 50 in the dub, and 46 according to "official" listings (all rounded to the nearest whole number). While the most recent change in Japanese opening occurred in Heroes - Friends and Faux Alike!, it was more of a remix and should not be counted. Of course, the movie hasn't aired yet in the dub, either for real or in the canon, which places it after Battles in the Sky!, which airs on the 20th. it will probably air later, since no announcement of it has been made. This would likely mean that the season won't start until October, which would go with the average of the season changing every year. Of course, even this doesn't confirm when the season changes. However, something else of note is occurring. According to xfinity TV listings, Pokémon The Series: XY is going to start going through syndicated reruns on the 15th. Usually, Cartoon Network airs the newest episode on Saturdays, re-airs the episode before the new episode on Sundays, and goes through the previous season during the week. Starting to air the current season heavily implies that the current season is coming to an end. Of course, the only way to confirm any of this is for an official announcement to occur. Also, while unrelated, I'm going to keep an eye out on the listings, especially for October 16th. If Cartoon Network goes through the listings and ignores SS029, An Undersea Place to Call Home! would air there in syndication.

Of course, all of this is speculation, and should not be taken as official, but remember, the season is coming to an end. I think I've taken up enough of your time. So, Bigpboy (talk) 16:53, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

It looks to me like Season 17 (for the dub) has already come to an end on XY049. Has it not? Does this mean it's safe to assume that XY049 marks the end of Season 17 and while XY050 marks the beginning of Season 18? 'Cause I haven't seen any more new episodes of the dub yet. —Platinum Lucario (talk) 12:51, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

XY049 was definitely the last episode of season 17. I'm not sure if the staff wanted to wait until we had a title for season 18 but I have gone and changed it. If they revert the edit then we will have to wait for a title. --HoennMaster 02:55, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

That's fine. We know there'll be a season 18, so splitting the section was fine.--ForceFire 03:29, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

And since there's some other TV show on at the moment that has replaced Pokémon the Series: XY in which I estimate would have about... 12 episodes. I'd say Season 18 of Pokémon won't be coming until March 21st. So we probably won't get to hear about the title of Season 18 until either early March or late February. —Platinum Lucario (talk) 06:03, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

XY024

Adding this hear in hopes of getting more views. XY024 finally aired about two months ago and there were no instances of retconning from what is said on the page. My concern is when the English dub aired. One way or another this page is going to look awkward. If we moved it to where it actually aired the numbering would be wrong, but it's placed under Season 17 for the English dub which is obvious not correct. Is the plan to just leave it where it is right now list wise? --HoennMaster 23:35, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

If they decide to dub it. They could just skip the episode. Don't worry about that until they announce an air date for it.--ForceFire 03:15, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

And if they don't air the episode in western countries, then it will count as a skipped episode and will be the first episode that has been skipped in western countries for reasons they couldn't disclose. Which I do have a feeling will happen, 'cause TPCi is very secretive with information like that (unlike TPC in Japan), unfortunately. —Platinum Lucario (talk) 10:28, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

We already have an English title for it, so it was dubbed already. Even if it hasn't air date yet, it's coming fast, especially if they air it the same way Japan did. --HoennMaster 20:25, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

An Undersea Place to Call Home!

When would you place place Skrelp-episode in the right order? It's not XY024, because it's not broadcast anywhere in that place (we're not sure that Korean airing is true). It's XY050, because Japan broadcast it between Pathways to Performance Partnering! and When Light and Dark Collide!. I think you should upadate that. - unsigned comment from Yunkers (talk • contribs)

There not going to. Dubbing this episode as XY050 would then put the story out of context with the rest of the episodes. It stayed XY024 because in the episode, training for Ash's battle against Grant in the Cyllage City Gym is mentioned. Why would Ash train for that battle when he's already done it? Ash battled against Grant in the following episode XY025, so moving XY024 to a different spot in the episode line-up would screw up the story line. And that's why it won't be changed in the episode order. It even mentions this in the Trivia section of XY024's page. DarienLeonhart (talk) 18:08, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

• • But it's still not XY024, official sources numbering it as XY050. Kanto-episode Princess vs. Princess is out-of-order too, but nobody changes its place, so I think that episode number should be changed. - unsigned comment from Yunkers (talk • contribs)

Yes it is XY024 because everyone in the episode would be out of place if it was elsewhere. You can't have an episode where Ash is talking about his excitement to battle Grant in a gym battle after the gym battle already happened. The episode was not redone to fit the storyline after XY050 which is why is still's labeled as XY024. I don't see the problem with its placement since it fits the story where it is between XY023 and XY025. Your claim of "official sources" that its numbered as XY050 need to backed up. You need to provide proof from these "official sources". I doubt your sources are official since Bulbapedia only uses official sources for their information and will remove any piece of information that has not been confirmed. That said, Bulbapedia says it's XY024, because their sources say it's XY024. DarienLeonhart (talk) 20:16, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't know what sources do you have, but in Japanese DVDs, Hulu and official Japenese site says that this episode isn't 24. I don't see any reliable sources that numbering that. (Sorry, if I'm spelling something wrong, I'm not native English) - unsigned comment from Yunkers (talk • contribs)

Please remember to sign your signature by putting four tildes (~~~~) after your comment. You are right in that they are acting like this episode took place where it aired when you look at official sites. Pokémon.com even labels it as a Season 18 episode. However, Bulbapedia is keeping it where it is because they episode was not changed upon airing like BW037 was. It still shows Ash training for Grant's gym battle and he still has Fletchling instead of Fletchinder. --HoennMaster 21:01, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

So I understand that you're trying being smarter that authors. I'm still thinking that you should change number of this episode, because all sources says so and that numberation is wrong. Nobody changes Kanto Princess vs. Princess so I don't understand why many peoples do so in case of this episode. But it's your choice. Yunkers (talk) 12:14, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

It would be silly to change the number of this episode to fit in the airing order instead of the storyline order. The storyline of this episode shows that Ash has not yet battled Grant (which happens in XY025) and that Fletchling has not evolved yet. So putting this episode later in the line-up would be out of place. Because you can't have one episode showing that Fletchling evolved but then show the episode where Fletchling is still Fletchling. That would be the most obvious reason why the episode cannot be placed later in the line-up. what's done is done. Let it be already. DarienLeonhart (talk) 18:08, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

So change Princess vs. Princess number to "more logical". I think that oficial order is more important that storyline order and order you use makes confusion. Many times I see when somebody writes "Why this episode is omitted?" and this hard to explain that this episode it's not part of Season 17. That's why I think this should be listed by airing not by storyline. They used openings from actual season, so it's official XY050 (51 ENG). Yunkers (talk) 20:41, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

What's done is done. Let it go. If Bulbapedia wanted to put XY024 in Season 18, they would have. Personally, I like where it is and think it should stay as it is. Who cares what other sites are doing. Bulbapedia are not those other sites. Bulbapedia staff only follows specific official sources and they go by what it says on those sites. So let it go already. The opening credits intro has nothing to do with the episode's story. The story places this episode between XY023 & XY025. We have told you this several times over and you still claim that it doesn't belong where it is. Let it go already. DarienLeonhart (talk) 20:49, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

So, you're trying to be smarter than authors. Do what you want. If you want to have unofficial and wrong information without having any logical reason, you can. If official sites are less important than bulbapedia, I have no more to add. Yunkers (talk) 22:27, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

You keep stating that you're using official sources but not once have you provided proof or your claims. And its in Bulbapedia's policy to only allow officially released information. In other words, Bulbapedia won't allow it to stay on their site if its not from official sources. What you claim is official sources may not be official. You can't trust everything you read on the internet. If someone told you that a normal man/woman walked off a cliff and kept walking without any assistance of technology like parachutes, paragliders or hanggliders, are you going to believe it? Same thing here. Just because you saw it online doesn't make it real. So I repeat, provide proof of your so-called official sources. DarienLeonhart (talk) 22:31, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

In Japan they announced this episode every times as XY024 after the ship accident. --Altruis _でんき 22:38, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Ugh, Japanese official anime site is not official? Strange. May I ask you what "officjal" sources Bulbapedia used? Yunkers (talk) 09:28, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Just because a site is Japanese & Anime doesn't make it official. As for official sources Bulbapedia uses, I plum forgot to ask... like it matters. LIke Altruis said, I have only ever seen it referred to as XY024. Never once have I seen it labeled as anything else. And judging form this chain of messages, you're the ONLY person who seems to think otherwise. Give it a rest already. You're not going to win. DarienLeonhart (talk) 09:33, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

(Outdent) He's referring to the show's official Japanese website, which is definitely official. As for the site, it does show the episode as airing where it did, but I see no indicating of numbering. Then again, Japanese is not my forte. --HoennMaster 09:56, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

How can you be certain he's referring to the official japanese site? He never once provided a link to the source of his information. That said, Bulbapedia also shows that it aired when it did and that's no different than the site you said, Bulbapedia just changed the listing order for their site by episode number vs airing order. DarienLeonhart (talk) 15:32, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Because he has repeatedly mentioned it in almost every post he makes, and you know that. Stop being rude. You can make your point without it. --HoennMaster 03:23, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Yunkers mentioned Japanese DVDs, Hulu and official Japenese site. Three sources to your none. Also, the staff is currently discussing this, so have patience.--ForceFire 04:06, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

I only see one truly official source and that is the Japanese DVDs, unless they were bootlegged. Hulu is not an official source for Pokémon information and this "official japanese site" could be anything. When I suggested he provided proof of his official sources, a link to said source as proof and I have never once seen a link anywhere. I am not being rude, I am being truthful. It might just turn out that this "official japanese site" might not be as official as Yunkers claims it is. Call it rude if you want, I call it covering all the bases. DarienLeonhart (talk) 04:21, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

This official site. The Japanese equivalent to Pokemon.com. The episode index shows XY024 between the XY050 and XY051.--ForceFire 04:32, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Just because you can provide the link doesn't mean that is the site Yunkers is using. Two different people don't always do things or think things the same way. I know how to find the official japanese pokemon site but that doesn't mean that is the site being used or referred to by Yunkers. I am/was asking that Yunkers provide a link to his/her so-called official site. I wasn't asking you, ForceFire to provide a link. DarienLeonhart (talk) 04:35, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

When someone says the official site, they mean the official site.--ForceFire 04:42, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

That's where you're wrong. Someone can say it's the official site because either they want it to be the official site or because they are being misled by those who run the site. Either one of those situations could be how Yunkers is doing it. I for one will never believe the word of someone on a forum unless they provide proof from an official source. Word of mouth is not proof and saying it was retrieved from an official site without providing proof of said site isn't proof either. DarienLeonhart (talk) 04:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Official site is official site. I mention this one. But even it's not the same it change anything. As someone say - you still don't write your source. If you do that, this discussion will be shorter (but of course you can't - there are none). And I started to think that you don't read my posts... I repeat - give any source, because now it's 3:0. You're only trying to deny my posts, but you don't do anything confirm your point.Yunkers (talk) 17:02, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

You claim its the official site. But you expect us to take your word for it Yunkers? I don't think so. The only you can prove your claims is by providing a link to the source of your proof. Until then, I don't anything you say because they call that word of mouth. And anything being said without proof can easily be made up, falsified. And until such proof is provided, I will not believe anything you say. I have ready every one of your posts. I am not stupid nor am I ignorant and I would appreciate if you wouldn't insult me in such a manner. Give proof of claims by providing a link to your source and if your source is the official site, then this will be over. If your source is not the official site, then it will still be over, and you will be proven wrong. Simple as that. Provide proof and this will be over, whether your source is the official site or not. DarienLeonhart (talk) 17:36, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

But still any sources from you... For some reason you avoiding proof yours ideas. I wrote what I'm expecting. If every official source says that it's not XY024, Bublapedia shouldn't says againts it. Yunkers (talk) 17:57, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

(outdent) I'm not the one who's claiming that Bulbapedia is wrong. It is you who needs to provide the link to prove your claims. DarienLeonhart (talk) 18:06, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

I end. Discussion with you is non-sense. Have wrong information, I don't care. Yunkers (talk) 17:10, 6 March 2015 (UTC)