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Limestone Cavern and related dungeons.

I see you have added information on traps to these dungeons; did you extract the data yourself or found it somewhere? Eridanus (talk) 09:43, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

I found it right here, in this little Dungeon FAQ by OgreGunner http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/955859-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-explorers-of-sky/faqs/58190. --IM-T-MAN2 (talk) 11:05, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Dazzling and Queenly Majesty

Hey there. I guess you didn't read the edit summaries on why your initial addition of Protect there was reverted, so I'll explain it to you directly. That was because the articles clearly say that the Ability "prevents opponents on the field from affecting the user and its allies with priority moves", and Protect is not such a move anyway. (It also has nothing to do with damage, because Prankster-boosted status moves, for example, apparently are affected.) So I guess the explanation is fine as is. Cheers! Nescientist (talk) 18:55, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

I see... I apologize for the trouble, then.IM-T-MAN2 (talk) 19:02, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

No big deal! Nobody's perfect. Nescientist (talk) 19:13, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

GB2 (GBC TCG Sequel)

How did you get Sam's Practice Deck out of there? I know it's in the data (though never actually fully checkable in-game), but I have no clue how to read data from such things. If you can help with this, pop me a message on our Discord and teach me so I can try it with a memory scan on a practice deck (one we already have data for). CycloneGU (talk) 00:05, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

For reference, this is the edit in question. CycloneGU (talk) 00:06, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Hoo, boy... where do I begin with this, Cyclone? See, a year or two ago, I had this odd fascination to find out what exactly the NPCs' decks were composed of, y'see. Of course, there's no way I did that all on my own with mere guesswork. What I did was an English translated ROM of Pokémon Card GB2, played that with a VBA (VisualBoy Advance Emulator), looked at the memory of the ROM with a built-in memory viewer, had some help from the Data Crystal pages in finding the offsets of what is in an opponent's deck, that kind of stuff, translated the hexes to the cards (e.g. Hex 011 is for Dark Ivysaur, and that's how I know what Sam contained in his deck.

You're the first person to ask me about how I got my info in the technical details...

If you'd like to try this out for yourself, this page will help you, http://datacrystal.romhacking.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_Trading_Card_Game_2

With kind regards, IM-T-MAN2 (talk) 18:19, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

I did reply on my page, so check for that if you wish. Note, however that I managed to figure it out! I eventually located the ROM point with the deck listing for Aaron's Step 1 deck, and actually also corrected an error (there are 4 Bulbasaur and 3 Diglett). I also decided to fix several references to cards based on the different "sets" we have listed for the game; for instance, I changed Mewoth and Spearow to the Bulbasaur and Squirtle deck references, respectively, instead of "Video Intro Set" references. Diglett's also the Base Set print. I'll make these little cosmetic changes as I check each of the decks, and this newfound knowledge will help me when I go through the game as I can now run a Japanese ROM (perhaps a different emulator to be safe) behind my playing of the English translation so I can get the exact and proper Japanese names for each deck as I analyze it (of course, we have the translated names). That page you linked is literally what unlocked it for me, so thank you again! Been struggling to find this info. =) CycloneGU (talk) 20:26, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for the duplicate reply, my good man. Anyway, why did ya struggle with finding this info before I guided you to it? Scarcity of info, mayhap? Also, I remember seeing a site where it tells you what enemy decks are composed of, but the problem is that you'd have to look at each card one at a time, and not only that, but it's not even in English. If you wish to know what that site is, it's http://www.imasaragame.com/pokemoncard/2/data/ And no, you won't find the data for the player's Practice Deck(s) on this site, I'm sorry to say. The only way I found those pieces of data was digging through the ROM. Sincerely, IM-T-MAN2 (talk) 06:55, 29 July 2017 (UTC).

I honestly just didn't knoqw where to look. The site you linked me to led me to the ROM map that told me exactly where to look, and when I did, oh my goodness was it a revelation. Set it to auto-update in every match.

I since made contact with the other user I mentioned and it turns out he's done translations on Bulbapedia before, too, so I think I now have all the resources I need. Currently using the translation help to name all of the autodeck decks and will return to analyzing trainer decks later (especially to help find the ones matching the autodeck listings). You might see my GB2 sandbox in the history, where I'm using a Google spreadsheet I've already made up (with all the card info) to assign details to each deck listing as I pull it from the autodeck machine. This will be a long project. =) CycloneGU (talk) 16:07, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

I see... well, I look forward to seeing this spreadsheet of yours. Onto a point I wish to make, I realize that my gathering of enemy deck data is not 100% perfect, and this might sound like a flimsy excuse, but on the enemy decks, we're looking at 120 bytes of data in hex to translate into cards, right? What I'd have to do is translate those cards from hex format, link the appropriate cards in the deck to the right links, make positively sure I didn't miscount or got a Card wrong, that kinda good stuff. Time went by, and I guess I lost interest in it considering all that work it took.

And don't get me started on using Rocket's Sneak Attack and Here Comes Team Rocket! to find this data... that takes even longer considering you have to wait for your foe to nearly run out of cards before I found out what a Memory Viewer was. IM-T-MAN2 (talk) 07:30, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

I actually have a spreadsheet with all of the card data if you want to give it a try. =) I'm working on the auto-deck machines then will move to the trainer decks. I don't know if it will happen yet, but it would be nice if this list actually gets a page one day as various sources I used were incomplete or shows inaccurate info. But that's something to worry about in the future, actually getting the data is more important. The nice thing is that the deck data shows up in the C480 block for your opponent and is VERY nicely organized, so it made getting the four rock decks a cinch; also, someone else helping has all of the deck data available, he says, and linked me to a Japanese site that lists everything. Of course, we should still verify the data ourselves, which is what I'm doing. CycloneGU (talk) 23:48, 2 August 2017 (UTC)