Talk:Piloswine (Pokémon)

Question

Err... This might be an obvious question but what does pilose mean? Glalie lv. X 160HP EX Sheer Cold, Heavy Bizzard, δ species (guy)

The source of the answer is certainly obvious...

It means "covered in distinct hairs". --FabuVinny ^T-C-S 19:10, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Here's my question. HOW THE HECK IS THAT OBVIOUS?!?!?!?!UkiraGrace611 03:31, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

It ain't.--Thomas Michael William Patrick Sales 10:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Problem

If Piloswine is supposed to evolve into Mamoswine with Ancientpower, how can it? It doesn't say what level Piloswine learns Ancientpower! PL12 12:38, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

You have to use the move tutor of the move rediscoverer guy. I don't remember his name. Or is that the move tutor? Well anyway that's how it has to be done.--Davidaipom 18:56, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Move relearner! This has already been discussed on a User's talkpage--KukiTalk 19:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

It can also learn the move by egg.--Tmwps 09:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Sprite

Has both Piloswine and Swinub gone darker from DP to Platinum???--Wowy 08:50, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

It looks like it has.--DRAGONBEAST^X 18:16, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Three one hit knockout moves

Here's a question. Surely if it can learn Icy Wind, surely it should easily be able to learn Sheer Cold? And because of it's Ground type, it should learn Fissure? And considering that it can learn Horn Attack, it should also be able to learn Horn Drill? Surely that would make it the Pokémon able to learn the most One-hit knockout moves tied with Lapras?--Tmwps 09:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

It just doesn't work that way. The moves listed on the page, and the subpages for Gens II-III are all the moves it can learn. For some reason we have to abide by what's coded into the games, not what we think would make sense :D — THE TROM — 09:08, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Ice Fang?

I think this is an error. Piloswine can't learn Ice Fang at level 28 because it can't exist until level 33. Swinub learns Ice Shard at level 28 though, but not Ice Fang. - unsigned comment from MegaNerd18 (talk • contribs)

Nah, it's not an error...Everything exists if you can haxx it in with like an AR or GameShark. --Psy_ライダー☮ 04:02, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

No, that's no error. It's really like that. Do be aware that all level-up compatability is taken from the actual game code; if the game code had said Ice Shard, it would have never read Ice Fang to begin with. - unsigned comment from Shiningpikablu252 (talk • contribs)

Just for the record, if one were to use the Pomeg glitch to transfer a level 5 Piloswine over to Generation IV and then levelled it up to level 28, it would indeed learn Ice Fang normally. (The same would hold true if it were to evolve into Mamoswine in the interim; the Pomeg glitch makes a level 6 Mamoswine possible.) And there's always the move relearner for these kind of things. - unsigned comment from Shiningpikablu252 (talk • contribs) }

Trivia

As well as saying that Pryce's pilloswine gets affected by pikachu's thunderbolt, could you also say something about Pachurisu's spark affecting Piloswine (A Breed Stampede). Also with Dawn's Mamoswine getting effected by spark and charge beam from Plusle and Minun (DP 162 [i think]) Chomi 13:29, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Romanization

Isn't it Inomuu? I understand that most Americans would spell it that way, but since the pronunciation is the same, why Americanize it? ----Sparen (talk) 22:38, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Pokémon names are trademarked as Romanizations in Japan. These trademarked romanizations are in turn the names which appear on various consumer products such as figurines or plushies. So the correct romanization of a name might not always be the most standard way of romanizing a Japanese word, but it's the one The Pokémon Company uses. --Andy^P_K^M_N 23:59, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Egg move error?

So I was telling one of my friends how you could teach Piloswine Ancientpower even in Gen 2. I wanted to look up the exact method, and the page said it's an egg move, and it can only be passed down by a Dunsparce. Then I got curious how Dunsparce could learn it, and it turns out it's an Egg Move even for him, and it could only be CHAIN BRED. So after a little bit of research, I found out that the real way Piloswine can learn it by breeding is by having a Kabuto, Kabutops, Omastar, Omanyte, or Corsola learn it, then breed it into Wooper, and then breed it into Swinub. Or you can do it with Smeargle. So the page should say that it could be chain bred through Wooper/Quagsire, or be simply bred using Smeargle. Krisi (talk) 22:49, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

It is not an error. If you look at the top of the table, it says Generation V, not Generation II. For Piloswine's Generation II learnset, see Piloswine (Pokémon)/Generation II learnset. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 23:10, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

I did look at the Gen II table. I guess it has been corrected since. Krisi (talk) 01:00, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, actually, the history of that page says that it has been modified about 20 minutes after I posted this. Krisi (talk) 01:02, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Piloswine refers to the Pliocene period?

"Pilo may also refer to the Pliocene period, the time period when the arctic ice cap—or pillow—formed, referring to the Pokémon's puffy appearance."

uh, that seems like a stretch, plus Pilo is P.I.L.O not P.L.I.O the I and L are switched. Unless its a corruption maybe? Yamitora1 (talk) 03:14, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

It is absolutely an enormous stretch; lots of things happened in the Pliocene, not just the ice cap forming, and picking out an uncommon term for ice caps to justify the assertion is just idiotic. I'll remove it. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 03:19, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I was about to remove it before I thought it best to bring the issues up first on the talk page just to be safe. I know people get touchy when it comes to the name origin of Pokémon. Yamitora1 (talk) 03:28, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

PECKING PILOSWINE

Possible trivia addition: Piloswine('s line) is the only evolutionary line that has access to the move peck--actually learning the move on its own†--which at no evolutionary stage is either avian (hence beak) or possessing an obvious horn/spike on the head to use for this attack. (Presumably this is done using the tusks? Maybe?) In fact, with the sole exception of Maractus, (whose general spikiness manifests in its movepool elsewhere, if the headspike doesn't) all the other non-avian pokemon with access to peck also have access to some other "horn" move--horn attack‡, megahorn, or horn drill--meaning that their horn is acknowledged elsewhere in their movepool as a thing they attack with.

†you have to use the move rememberer to get at it legally, yes, but that works on the premise that it learned the move on its own and then forgot it. I'm making a distinction here between egg moves, move tutors and tm/hm moves as opposed to moves that are part of the base movepool. If you were to somehow catch a level 1 piloswine in gen IV, IT WOULD KNOW PECK.

‡Interestingly, in gen III, Piloswine learned horn attack instead of peck, but in later generations it has peck instead, with no way to teach it horn attack. That means that between gens III and IV, someone consciously decided that horn attack was not a sensible move for Piloswine to learn; peck makes much more sense.

Mostly, however, my point is that Piloswine is not avian, nor does it have a horn. Surely there must have been SOMETHING more appropriate than peck? Why peck?? Nidoran♀ pointedly does not learn peck, or any of the other related horn-y moves, while her male counterpart does, because her horns are too small/she does not have a head spike. Only six non-avian lines have ever had access to the move peck, and only five lines have had access to peck since gen II (seel only very briefly had it via breeding); Piloswine has NO OTHER moves that are even remotely "spike/jab"-y! Harumei (talk) 19:13, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

It also learns Fury Attack, and quote its description, "The target is jabbed repeatedly with a horn or beak two to five times in a row." Mamoswine also learns Peck the same way, and you'll note that the reason Swinub can't is because it doesn't have tusks like its evolutions. Tusks count as "horns," regardless of their location. But ultimately, none of this is notable as trivia, imo. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 19:31, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

While I grant you Fury attack, which I didn't notice as I tend to confuse it with fury swipes, I will point out that I said "Line"--meaning both Piloswine and mamoswine--and my point remains, as tusks are rather emphatically not horns, being teeth as opposed to keratin over bone, and moreover the original point was that PECK is a weird choice. "Piloswine and Mamoswine are one of only five non-avian evolutionary lines to learn the move peck, and of those, they are the only ones who do not posses an obvious horn on the top of their head with which to accomplish this move."<--interesting trivia, imo. It wouldn't be nearly so remarkable if it weren't so specific a move; they're unusually discriminating where Peck is concerned--Horn attack I'd grant you, but peck? HOW DO YOU PECK WITH CURVED TUSKS? you'd be GORING them!Harumei (talk) 23:07, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

The four you mention with horns on their heads prove that they are not as discriminating with Peck as you claim. I see no difference in significance between Piloswine using Peck and Seaking or Nidoking using it, and indeed, Piloswine seems to make a lot more sense using Peck than Maractus. On top of that, judging whether a move is unusual for any particular Pokemon is subjective, and thus does not belong on an encyclopedia. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 01:59, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Do note that the act of pecking is poking at something with a sharp instrument, such as beaks, horns and tusks. Piloswine and Mamoswine knowing the move shouldn't be such a problem as they have something to peck with.--ForceFire 03:20, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Mammoth vs. Mastodon

The origin section says that Piloswine "also shares traits with mammoths and mastodons the latter of which is expressed in its later evolution". However, Mamoswine is based on a mammoth, not a mastodon, so it should say "the former of which is expressed in its later evolution".

I would've just fixed it but in the source I noticed this little note:

"Mammoths were grazers, while mastodons were browsers, a behavior similar to that talked about in most of Piloswine's Generation III Pokédex entries."

I wasn't sure if it meant that Piloswine was a grazer or a browser - very little in the Pokédex suggests anything about either, and parts that did suggest that Piloswine is a grazer, but I'm still not sure what whoever wrote this section meant.

Either way, the sentence is incorrect. If Piloswine is a grazer, then it should say "the former of which is expressed in its later evolution". If Piloswine is a browser, like the confusing note in the source suggests, then it should say "both of which are expressed in its later evolution" - Mamoswine's appearance and name origin shows it is based on a mammoth, and mastodons are browsers.

The grammar in this section is pretty confusing - I've already fixed one mistake and as I'm writing this I already see another. ----Celadonkey (talk) 20:46, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Evolution Trivia out of date

The trivia point "Of all the Pokémon that need to know a certain move to evolve, Piloswine is the only one that has already evolved once." is no longer true, as Steenee evolves by knowing Stomp, and already evolved from Bounsweet. Should this trivia point be removed, or edited to incorporate Steenee? My feeling is that it should just be removed. Itsdavidbaxter (talk) 19:32, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

If something stops being unique, it generally is not worth trivia section anymore, as far as I know. Kikugi (talk) 19:40, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Makes sense. I've edited the page to remove that trivia. Itsdavidbaxter (talk) 20:04, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Yak?

Other than it's long shaggy fur, I don't any resemblance to yaks in Piloswine. The resemblance to mammoths I definitely see.Robbie (talk) 14:17, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

It as a humped back and tusks/horns that varies between gender. Add in the shaggy fur, and that's three things it has in common with Yaks, I think it's plausible.--ForceFire 05:10, 25 April 2019 (UTC)