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Don't question my existence. Anyway, forum the debate. I was just happy that Obama won. I'm proud that America was able to move beyond the hatred of the past to do so, and for such an awesome guy too.

Plus I get to brag now because CHICAGO RUNS THE WORLD NOW.

Users from <Insert random place>

There's a few users using {{User Country}} for places that are rather... Random. Examples include, "the depths of", "Outer Space", as well as a few towns/cities (Including some plainly using the template without a location). Would you like me to edit the userpages with these... Oddities by substing the templates, then removing the categories? Or should we just leave them to appear in the Wanted Categories? - Kogoro | Talk to me | 06:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm... well, yeah, I guess it'd be a good idea. As for those who aren't from anywhere... I dunno. TTEchidna 06:47, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, could the template get an edit so that if nothing is placed in the {{{2}}} variable, the category portion of the template won't activate? - Kogoro | Talk to me | 06:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
You mean that's not already in place? TTEchidna 20:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Surprisingly enough, it wasn't. I think I was able to get one to work, but I'm not 100% sure. I really began to hate parser functions while trying to add it. - Kogoro | Talk to me | 21:39, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
They're easy. It's time you gotta watch for. TTEchidna 22:24, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Warnings

Can you get a warning for doing nothing wrong?

On the 28th July DCM gave me a warning for editing the userspace too much, even though I had only made 3 edits. Today I made my first error on the Userspace Policy as in my timezone I was editing in 2 different days, but according to the BP clock it was the same day. I immediately reported this to an Admin, as it was an accident, then Maverick Nate decided to give me a warning citing it as my 2nd. While I find this harsh, technically he is right, as I did break the rule but only by accident, so I shall have to accept that warning, but as my first warning. He insists it should remain my 2nd warning, even though I have clearly highlighted to him that today is the first time I have broken the policy. DCM made a mistake when he gave me that warning, it was by accident, and he meant no harm, he thought it was 4, but when recounting it was only 3, therefore surely the warning he gave me shouldnt count as it was given out of error. --Guardian of Earth |SGMS 2010

Eh, the fact that it'd been almost half a year since your last warning... I'd say you're fine. Really, the warning elevation is for users who do it frequently, while you seem to get that there's a limit. TTEchidna 20:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
This looks a lot like wikipedia:forumshopping. You should at least say that you've previously appealed at User talk:Maverick Nate#The Warning, rather than hoping that he wouldn't look at it.
Anyway, you've made no mainspace edits this month, and only four mainspace talk edits, three of them on a fan article (GS remakes). The purpose of the rule was to encourage people to improve Bulbapedia and not use this site as a social networking site. This isn't a legal court system, and the admins can use discretion when enforcing the spirit of the law as opposed to the word of the law. --Raijinili 21:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Basic energy

Basic energies have undergone quite a few art changes over the years, I think I have a good majority of energy cards in each artistic change. The articles for basic energies are very tiny stubs, but should I scan & add galleries to them to display the art changes, despite the size of the articles? - Kogoro | Talk to me | 08:06, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Go for it. TTEchidna 08:07, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Aim Buddies

I added ttfutureechidna to my buddy list, I was wondering if you'd add maxieguardian to yours, so we can be friends and just chat about stuff, I think the political argument got us on a bad start, im hoping we can be friends? --Guardian of Earth |SGMS 2010

Just IMing me gets you on the list. TTEchidna 03:18, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I have won.

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So BulbaBot still remains an administrator and Kuki still a "good" user?--Diby 07:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
We don't know...I've been talking to TTE for the last few hours and we got clues that Kuki should not be fully trusted yet, either should Nate.--Tavisource 07:37, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Erm, wouldn't it be best to make BulbaBot not an admin?
Prevention is better than a cure... Glinn Mgraw 07:41, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
TTE says that BulbaBot HAS to be an admin.--Tavisource 07:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh thank goodness.
Anyway, look, we'll look into things, okay? TTEchidna 07:44, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
What did I miss out on? The block log has gone straight to hell, it seems. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 08:16, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=BulbaBot, mostly. So pathetic it's funny. Glinn Mgraw 09:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Um... can someone fill me in on what's going on here?--Manga-in-a-bottle 09:06, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

BulbaBot went nuts. TTEchidna 09:19, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
You mean a glitch, right? Coz it's only an automatic program or something? But from the looks of things, it would seem it was behaving as a person...--Manga-in-a-bottle 09:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Its aura shows that of a human. I really think Zhen should renew the password every few months. As the wiki's most powerful bot, it's the target of many vandal/cookie attacks. Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links 10:19, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
All I got was "YOU NO LONGER HA" and that's where I stopped. Can someone translate the rest for me, please? Here.--Blazevoir!! 11:18, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
"You no longer have any authority on Bulbapedia, TTEchidna. I hope you enjoy your block and do not return when it expires.And now I, Scott Sandler, am in charge of Bulbapedia, and will make sure that everyone respects me and the pictures I put up, instead of Jmath's stupid ones.My mother's emails? They were only a trick. The email from Maverick Nate? I faked it. No one can stop me and now I have ultimate authority.You brought this on yourself TTE. YOU SHOULD HAVE GIVEN ME ADMIN POWERS WHEN YOU HAD THE CHANCE! I WANTED THEM AND YOU JUST KEPT HOLDING THEM IN FRONT OF ME.Now, you will never come back... If you do, I will block you forever, like you wanted to do to me.Too bad you never had the chance.Love always, Scott Sandler, AKA Kuki.�" Cipher (Talk) 11:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh.. so there are online converters.. I just made my own. But this made me wake up and instantly go WTF?! Gywall(Talk) 11:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
...Guh...So now we're being run by an asshole madman? Θρtιmαtum♏Talk|Links 13:33, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh everyone knows that's been the case since I was asked to be in charge... Anonymous doesn't forgive nor forget, remember?
No, really. Kuki's nuts, but I doubt he did it. Though after pretty much begging everyone and their mother to be let back on Bulbapedia after a lengthened block due to sockpuppeting, attempting to pose as another user in order to get them banned for longer, and then now once more doing so... poorly... off of Bulbapedia, while his mother's screaming about Asperger's and how she can't control him due to it, I and the rest of the admins have pretty much had it with him. BulbaBot's "malfunction" seems like more of a way to just screw with us... nothing more. Especially since we discovered that we, being admins, can unblock ourselves if we're somehow blocked.
Anyway, we'll deal with everything. Don't worry at all. We're handling it with our buraucratic... bureaucracy. I dunno. We're dealing. TTEchidna 13:51, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
This is kind of getting out of haand, why is BulbaBot screwing with people, I mean, it's a 'robot', isn't it? Or does someone control it? :\ Also I think Kuki is going a little...errr... insane, from what i've heard from certain people. It's not my place to say, but maybe being on Bulbapedia isn't good for him... Sorry for my un-wanted input there. ~~Takoto - サソデイ 14:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
And to think I dropped an eight-hour block bomb on myself as an attempt to shield just in case the rogue bot did go after me...--Shiningpikablu252 16:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
NOOOO!
you said up there Anonymous doesn't forgive nor forget, remember?
well I do remember he's the bastard that screwed up my youtube channel----Ultamatecharizard 20:59, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Welcome to the Internet. Either you likely decided to say something incredibly lulzy, thus setting you up, or you were some random lolcow. TTEchidna 22:01, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
hah? all I'm sayin' is that a guy called anonymous took controll of my channel and wrote we do not forgive, we do not forget, so do a lot of people know him?Ultamatecharizard 22:12, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Eh's a pretty cool guy. Hacks Youtube and doesn't afraid of anything. TTEchidna 22:26, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

...

What the fuck is going on? --ニョロトノ666 17:00, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

BulbaBot went haywire last night. Dropping block bombs left and right on various users, be it someone like Darkrai breeder or someone like TTEchidna. Thankfully, you weren't hit; neither was I, but I actually blocked myself for eight hours just in case BulbaBot did go after me. --Shiningpikablu252 17:06, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Hm. Is Maverick Nate blocked? If so, why? --ニョロトノ666 17:07, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Not right now, no. BulbaBot messed with TTEchidna's schedule, which called for the initial probation block to expire early morning of the 16th, to expire at noon UTC today. In fact, BulbaBot started its rampage six minutes after the action that got Maverick Nate put on probation to begin with.
What I'd really like to know, however, is how BulbaBot managed to block Tavisource for 400 years the third time BulbaBot blocked that user. I had to block Sneedly94 for 25 years mainly because 30 years was considered invalid...--Shiningpikablu252 17:14, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Additionally, it's not supposed to be possible to block a sysop, much less a bureaucrat. And BulbaBot doesn't have the power to revoke and issue administrative powers... This is too odd. And how did TTE unblock himself? I'm leaning towards revoking the bot's administrative powers until we can decide what to do about this... --ニョロトノ666 17:17, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh, and if Mav Nate's not blocked, what's this? --ニョロトノ666 17:21, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
BulbaBot doesn't have the powers necessary to mess with user rights. The last time user rights were tweaked was when TTEchidna put Maverick Nate on probation for an unfair block on Kuki. BulbaBot didn't tweak anyone's user rights.
Anyway, it appears that ultra-long expiry times really are valid now, and BulbaBot took advantage of that with Tavisource. I tested it with my user page, setting a protection timer for one minute short of UTC New Year in 10000, and the time was seen as valid.
As for Maverick Nate's block log, compare BulbaBot's expiry time to the timestamps under this heading. --Shiningpikablu252 17:22, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Pfft. Silly me. In any case, I've revoked BulbaBot's administrative powers for the time being, as it needs a little programming change. --ニョロトノ666 17:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
I think someone logged in as bulbabot.--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
By the name Echidna--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))

(resetting indent) One thing I'd like to note, for the benefit of anyone who didn't know, is that blocked users can't edit pages, but they can still log in, view pages, and if they have special rights, then they can use those abilities freely as well. So yes, while you can block a sysop, they can just unblock themselves as long as they still have sysop rights. Blocking a sysop is nothing more then a nuisance, since they have to unblock themselves before they can edit. (it is pretty annoying though, I'll say that from previous experience.) -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 20:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

And this was a lesson to all about it. Anyway, here's the truth: I am BulbaBot. Zhen let me take control of it to mess with you guys and freak you out, and this time I was attempting to out Kuki as being the one who made the email from Nate saying "I hate you so very much, I will block u for until January 30, 2023".
Why did I do it? A test, perhaps. Response time was quite efficient, proving we don't need to continue the nominations for administratorship for the time being. Maybe next April around the time Platinum comes out here, since we get a huge influx of new users around then.
Whatever the case, though, it backfired. And now Kuki's whining about his assburgers again, like DaxFlame, while his mom's setting up new anti-Bulbapedia facebook groups because he won't GET OFF THE COMPUTER. And I'm not afraid to show my bias against nooby users here. Stop thinking that Bulbapedia's some big friend group. That's the forums. Go there. Don't IM me about random crap. I have 100+ people on my list, I don't need anymore. Don't talk page vandalism, for the last time, CONTACT VIA AIM, MSN, OR WHATEVER.
Anyway. Things will go back to the way they were beforehand. Nate didn't do anything wrong because we all pretty much agreed that blocking Kuki until that date would be hilarious, and then I'd "reprimand" him just to see what Kuki's reaction would be.
Optimatum had it right when he said Bulbapedia's run by an asshole madman. That's me! But only when I need to be. So to everyone, sorry for the lose, but guess whaaaaaat.
IT'S THE INTERNET
DON'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY
Love always, TTEchidna 21:39, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
*suddenly doubting your existence* EVIL BASTARD!--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
*gasp* TTE is BulbaBot?! I would have never guessed! </sarcasm>
But TTE, don't you think this was all about, say, 138 days early?
...
...ohshit, I just got an idea. You guys are all in big trouble come next April. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 23:57, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure what you're talking about, but I bet that it has something to do with MewBot.--Pokencyclopedia 02:32, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
True, this might've been better in April, or on Halloween, but hey, lightning day screwed up the clock tower... TTEchidna 02:56, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
So if you are on hiatus then you aren't a part of it... electAbuzz and I were lucky. P.S., WHAT YOU DID WAS SO FUNNY. Blaming Kuki through the binary... GENIUS! That Aspergers thing was pretty mean though. Anyway...--RexRacer -talk 03:06, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
It's the Internet. It's mean. TTEchidna 03:09, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Public disclaimer's on my page. I'm Anonymous. I do things for the lulz. TTEchidna 03:26, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
There we go:D--RexRacer -talk 03:31, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

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I just have to ask this now: how many people actually thought BulbaBot was acting autonomously while simultaneously showing personality and leaving scathing edit summaries?--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 04:34, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
People that think that wiki robots will control the world LOL hfc2X 04:44, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
April fools has been moved back 5 months? :S Glinn Mgraw 07:03, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

TTE. You're a god c: I knew it was you... Or one of the admins. (is a little late on the uptake) ~~Takoto - サソデイ 07:47, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Hes a scientontologist. There for a nonexistast god--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
Actually, the scilons believe in the essential divinity of L. Ron Hubbard and run screaming in fear not from Satan, but from the Galactic Overlord Xenu, who was an income tax inspector. And the Marcabian Federation, a 1950's-like bunch of aliens who dress up like the Blues Brothers.
Now if only they would be as truthful about it. TTEchidna 22:00, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
*incite on how DCM's mind works * Lets read that again....Hubbard=Missle; Galactic overlord=already working for them ; Taxes=BAD; Alien Blues Brothers!=GENIUS! LETS GET WORKING ON IT!
{{tt|OHEMGEE! SCIENTOLOGISTS ARE SHOOTING DOWN TEH GALACTIC OVERLORDS TO EVADE GALACTIV OVERLORDS AND waTCH TEH BLUES BROTHERS~|In reality, i just didnt feel like reading all of that--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
The sad thing is I'm totally serious. TTEchidna 22:25, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
TTE = A scientontologist? .......All my respect just died. I'm not racist, but really... scientontology is... err... whats the work? ~~Takoto - サソデイ 22:38, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh yes, TTE is most definitely a Scientologist, no matter what he's about to say in his next comment that implies otherwise. I've got pictures to prove it and everything, as far as you know. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 22:41, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
He's a scientologist.....and a Nazi. Bastard.--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
I'm pretty sure those two conflict in one way or another, but sure. And he's a terrorist. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 03:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
You just had to make BulbaBot soooo annoying. I thought I trusted you, TTE. I want Zhen back in control of it. But no, Zhen is "on hiatus." I thought you were good person. --DialgaRULES 03:26, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
He is, He just likes to mess with our minds. --Force Fire 03:28, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Nonexistant Nazi Scientologist Terrorist. Hmmm. seems fitting for him--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
There's no real difference between Nazis and scilons except who they persecute. Scilons chose psychologists. TTEchidna 05:35, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
The comment about Scientologist was actually my brother. Goddamn it Robbie xD But yeah, I didn't know he was a Scientologist... Let alone a Nazi Scientologist Terrorist. Anyone want to add anything else to that mix of what TTE is? *laughs* ~~Takoto - サソデイ 09:55, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Pardon my ignorance, but did you guys remember to unblock Tina? I'm aware that she doesn't plan on coming back to Bulbapedia anytime soon, but I still think it's unfair to keep her blocked.--Pokencyclopedia 22:45, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for what I have done just now... But now, I'm having troubles for editing Mew Glitch page...(I'm currently writing up the Overview for Glitch Pokémon on Route 24) Each time, when I pressed the ' Enter button ' to leave 1 space, it save the page...Do you have any other method that you can teach,to leave 1 space without pressing the ' Enter ' button ? Thanks =) Bowboyxxx 07:12, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Template:TCG Expansions

Hiya, I've drafted a new version of this template which can be found in my sandbox. I don't want to implement it before I've gotten any opinions on it, so any thoughts you have on this would be much appreciated. Cheers, Cipher (Talk) 21:21, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Clear it with some others... It's a good idea, dunno if everyone wants the show/hide though. TTEchidna 21:51, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, checked with Nate who likes it except for the show/hide which he's not keen on, SP252 who told me it could work but to get a second opinion, Politoed666 who loves it and says to implement it now (though I'm still unsure because I don't know how many people dislike show/hide), and you. So it's still about 50/50. Should I ask anyone else, or is that enough to decide whether or not to implement it? Cipher (Talk) 21:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
It can always be undone so I say go for it. TTEchidna 22:00, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Update

You may wanna update Bulbapedia:Administrators since BulbaBot and Maverick Nate are no longer admins. Chocolate 21:27, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

They're not? What happened?--The Kkllnnator blastoise 21:29, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Late last night, BulbaBot went very damn crazy and blocked dozens of innocent users (including myself), so Politoed666 changed BulbaBot's rights from bots and admins to just bots. Maverick Nate blocked Kuki for 15 years with a horrible reason, so TTE changed Maverick Nate's rights from checkusers and admins to abuse. Chocolate 21:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
So Nate really meant it... But his page still calls him an admin, shouldn't someone fix that?--The Kkllnnator blastoise 21:35, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
No Nate didn't mean it. If he did he would have done so a long time ago. TTEchidna 21:41, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Pokémon Disambiguation

How do you create these for a pokémon? I found the Template:DisambigPokémon page, but I still don't know how to make one. --HoennMaster 05:41, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

You basically type in the Pokémon name in the search box. After you click "Go" it will redirect you to the Pokémon that you typed in if a disambiguation page wasn't created yet. Near the top of the page you'll see Redirected from <Pokémon name>. Click on that and it will take you to the page with an arrow pointing to the Pokémon's name. You click edit this page and you put the disambig information there instead of the redirect. Use this for a reference. --ケンジガール 05:45, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
But why must you make a page for a disambiguation? TTEchidna 06:29, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Captain Skank?

Is that appropriate?--RexRacer -talk 22:09, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I... dunno. I don't have a real problem with it. TTEchidna 22:11, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
I don't see anything wrong with it, either. --Shiningpikablu252 23:22, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

User:Rolfcopter3

This Idiot is Vandalizing Me and Takoto's Pages and other pages. Please BLOCK HIM! --Force Fire 10:06, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Meh NVM. --Force Fire 00:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
I doubt that this will be the last time we'll be seeing him anyway.--Pokencyclopedia 04:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Eh, depends on the person. Last time I dealt with a vandal like this, he didn't come back for a month or so. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 05:55, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
This are my roflcopter. soisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoisoi. I doubt the vandal will come back. With such a unoriginal username he'll quickly get bored of vandalizing us.--DCM((Shut the **** upSpy on My Edits))
There aren't even any records left of his vandalism spree (aside from people mentioning it), so I don't think he'll want to do all that work again for such a small "reward". -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 18:10, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Additionally, this whole spree wouldn't have even happened if Pie had set the timer for infinite, as opposed to the one year she actually set it for, the first time this vandal appeared. --Shiningpikablu252 18:13, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm personally quite shocked the vandal actually remembered about Bulbapedia at all, a whole year later. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 20:06, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, he remembered even after that, he just vandalized again about half an hour ago, but we caught him before he made an imprint. He only vandalized 5 pages. MaverickNate 20:10, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I actually know this Rolfcopter guy because I used to be on YouTube. He's one of the worst trolls over there, and he's a pain in the ass to deal with. In fact, that account that he made here called "Theamack1992" is the same name as one of my friend's YouTube accounts. Chocolate 20:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Template Suggestion

I dunno how you'd like the Trainer's Eye/Call suggestion, so I'm showing it to you now. This is using Tate and Liza (obviously):

Tate and Liza File:SpriteTateandLiza.png Mossdeep City File:Moving PokeBall.gif
Strategy: We battle in cooperation
Trainer's Pokémon: Always friendly Pokémon
Self-Introduction: We understand each other, and we understand others.


I know this needs work, and I need help on the borders and all, but this is just an idea... ht14 04:10, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... well, the moving Poké Ball... dunno why it's there. It's nice, I just don't get why it's there. I would shrink the thing's width and put it left-justified... TTEchidna 04:11, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok....well....the Poké Ball's there to show there's the need to battle....not the best, but hey! Not bad eh? ht14 04:13, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
The only problem is in fixing the width...not sure how that works.... ht14 04:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Likely due to the fact that it's a div-based table and not just a plain table... TTEchidna 04:20, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Do you think you can fix it up then? ht14 04:21, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Ehh... not right now... Perhaps later on. TTEchidna 04:23, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok, cool. Do you like the idea though? ht14 04:24, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
It's a good idea I suppose. TTEchidna 04:28, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

(resetting indent) If we can get it to be less wide, I think it'd be a great idea. Chocolate 22:28, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

HEY

Generation III and IV
Other generation learnsets: II - III
Game Move Type Cat. Pwr. Acc. PP Contest Appeal

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Bold indicates a move that gets STAB
Italic indicates a move that gets STAB only from an Evolution of this Pokémon
A colored initial indicates that the move is not available to be tutored in this game,
while a colored background indicates that the move is available.

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I can't see the Grass box. It's blending in. Glinn Mgraw 07:00, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Exactly why this would be a preliminary study. TTEchidna 07:02, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
By the way, anyone who wants to tinker with this thing right there can if they so wish. TTEchidna 07:05, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
And the Smart box...other than that though, it's good. Colour is good. Glinn Mgraw 07:06, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Hmm...light colour for most of the background looks nice...Glinn Mgraw 07:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Futuristic looks are good too. We'll deal... TTEchidna 07:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)