Talk:Butch

According to Maddie Blaustein, Eric Stuart is Butch's VA. Eric Stuart even said so on his web site (or so I hear). Plus, in one of the Chronicles episodes where Butch appeared, Matt Mitler was not listed in the credits. He hasn't done voices for Pokémon since season one. --PAK Man

Rubbish article

Practically the ONLY important information in this article (not counting his Pokémon team) is that everyone gets his name wrong. Other than that, this article says NOTHING about character. I think it should be considered as a stub. Yeah, in the terms of length it meets the non-stub criteria. But in the terms of informativity, it does NOT! There are several more articles like this, that angers me. I'm basically not good at Anime Characters, so I can't add much to this article. But if you can, please do it. --Maxim 14:17, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Butch's Voice Its not an opinion

Since people are going play the Opinion card, here is a clip of Butch, then two clips of Pokémon video with Harvey Fierstein replacing the audio. There is some syncing issues.

http://s39.photobucket.com/albums/e194/yamitakashi/?action=view&current=BCHF09.flv

Yami 04:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

To me it sounds mildly similar, but it's hard to tell unless I listen closely, because of the tone. I don't think it's enough to warrant a trivia. Nevertheless, it is an opinion, regardless of my input. ~ solaris 05:04, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Here's the source files in order of their appearance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwJpkBHjr-s Butch montage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QR7-X6KE4w Harvey (note age and other things does effect the voice)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imbp-PvBzPY

Yami 05:07, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Some results from gopgling "Harvey Fierstein and Butch Pokemon"

http://www.pokemopolis.net/rocket/rocketteam.htm

http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_Mystery_Dungeon:_Team_Go-Getters_Out_Of_The_Gate!_(deleted_16_Aug_2008_at_19:47)

I fail to see how this is an opinion, that's like trying to say Meowth's Dub accent isn't a Brooklyn thing Yami 05:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, actually, that's an opinion too. ~ solaris 05:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Not to get off track, but how is that? Yami 05:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

they have similar voices, but not the same. trivia inclusion denied. -- MAGNEDETH 05:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Yami. Quit bitching. Any comparison made to another thing is an opinion. Those sites you linked where this comparison is made are ALSO opinions. They're fan sites. Opinions, speculation, comparisons...whatever...cannot go in articles. Period. -Sketch 11:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Email Butch's VAs. If they say they were asked specifically to voice like Fierstein, then it's good to go. If they were asked to just do a low, raspy voice, then no. My bet's on the director asking the latter of them. TTEchidna 23:13, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Keep it civil Sketch, there is no need for that.

There are multiple comparisons on here, comparing Nidoran♀ with shinny Nidoran♂ is an opinion. Comparing Squirtl's tail with a squirrel is an opinion. Even comparing the names of rocket duos to old west figures is an opinion if we use your logic.

Also I doubt Eric would e-mail me back. I once got a e-mail back from Veronica Taylor who gave me some e-mail addresses to e-mail and complain about the voice change. However, I doubt a man who's not did that voice in 3-4 maybe 5 years would remember the voice, or the inspirational. Yami 13:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Except the duos are actual names of real people if you haven't noticed. And they're all criminals. Squirtle's tail is part of the psysiology. And I changed the Nidoran trivia so you'd quit finding crappy examples of opinion... Also, Butch was in a recent episode. The one where we meet Hippopotas' dad, remember? R.A. Hunter Blade 14:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)