Talk:Black out
Uh, yeah... this is about as notable as my left foot. --αワニノコ 19:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- More or less, the article looks like your left foot.--Mew* a.k.a. Prmatt11 was here at 21:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
In theory...
If a player were to say... not to heal beforehand at all, where would the player end up? For instance, if battling the rival in R/S/E w/o healing and your starter faints, where would you go? ht14 05:44, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Home, I imagine. Mom does heal you like a PokéCenter does. Luna Tiger * the Arc Toraph 05:54, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- Or when the first level 2 Pidgey you find kills your Bulbasaur... yeah. You go home. —darklordtrom 05:24, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Formula for money lost in FR/LG
Depending on how many badges the player has earned, the formula is as follows:
Where P is the money lost (dropped in panic or paid to the trainer), L is the level of the highest-level Pokémon on the team, and Base is the "base payout", which is determined based on how many badges the player has and who he is facing.
For example, when the player just starts out, Base is equal to $8.
I'm currently playing through the game to see how it works, but right now, I have the following:
0 badges, anyone: $8
1 badge, anyone: $16
2 badges, anyone: $24
Elite Four: $100 (Not from my personal playing, however. I saw somebody else lose to them with a Level 68 Jolteon (or something like that, their highest level was 68) in the party and they lost $6800.)
Useful at all? Ztobor 23:08, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
- Very. I wish we had mathtags that worked. —darklordtrom 22:23, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
I believe the same formula applies in Generation IV, but I have no proof of that. Can somebody verify it for me?
- For example, the GIF that we currently have on the page would have involved a Level 15 Pokémon while the trainer hadn't beaten Roark yet. Ztobor 16:51, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, I did some testing on Platinum. It seems to be the same. During the first battle, with a L5 Chimchar, I lost to the rival and lost $ 40. After defeating the Elite Four, the multiplier seems to be 120. (I lost $3600 with a L30 Noctowl and $ 6360 with a L53 Infernape. The opponent doesn't seem to matter, as I lost 6360 when my Infernape lost to Aaron, the rival, Fantina at the Battleground, a Dragon Tamer, and a wild Wingull. Also, the Amulet Coin doesn't affect the dropped money. On another note, you still lose half your money in Emerald, even though it's based off of the FireRed/LeafGreen engine. MagicBarrier 21:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Okay, here's one: After the Cyrus battle, the base payout is $100. I lost against Dialga ('cause I forgot to send out Palkia first - I'm a noob) and lost $4700 because my Palkia was level 47. Ztobor 17:35, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Official Japanese Name
The line used (at least in the Japanese generation 1 games) after saying that you ran out of usable POKeMON, is [without the Japanese quote marks] 『レッド は めのまえが まっくらに なった！』. Can anybody tell me what this translates to, as it seems to be talking about "pitch-black", or something to that effect. Tharthan 20:14, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
- Well, basically it would mean "black out" as well. I believe the literal translation (based off my poor Japanese skills) is "Red's vision became pitch-black!"
- Romanized, the sentence is "Reddo wa me no mae ga makkura ni natta!". "Reddo wa" means that the sentence has something to do with Red. "Me no mae" (目の前) means "in front of one's eyes", and "makkura" (真っ暗) means "really black" or "pitch-black", and finally "natta" (なった) is the past tense of "naru", which is "to become". Ztobor 02:32, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
A tied battle?
If both the player and the other trainer run out of Pokémon at the same time, what happens? Does the trainer both white out and win the battle, or just one of the two? Ztobor 15:27, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure you just lose. —darklordtrom 06:20, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
- I guess we'd better check that out, then. Ztobor 03:25, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
- Seeing that it is impossible for two pokemon to be damages at the exact same time, whichever pokemon takes damage first will lose. For example, if you use an attack that hits with recoil to faint a trainer's last pokemon the recoil should not hit your pokemon because the attack fainted the last available opponent.FlickieStrife 12:38, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- I guess we'd better check that out, then. Ztobor 03:25, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Here's a senerio:What if you used explosion on them with a level 98 golem against your opponents level 24 pikachu(1 Pokemon each)? Then how would the situation work a technically both pokemon should faint right?--Dragrath1 05:36, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
- You lose though. If you fight against an in-game trainer and both Pokémon faint, you lose and you have to fight the trainer again. If you're in a trainer battle against your buddy, you tie if both Pokémon faint. And Battle Tower and others of the sorts, you lose. Malake256 05:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Egg Blackout glitch is not real
Under the orders of SnorlaxMonster and after a conversation with him after I asked him how to get it to work, he said that it requires a cheating device. Thus the glitch is fake and there's no way you can bypass trading your starter for an egg with another egg or just the starter for the egg with someone who has a full team of Pokemon without the egg. That's as if one person defeated Falkner and you haven't or if you have 2 games, defeat Falkner on one version and just barely begin another. For some other reason you need to have 2 Pokemon to trade but a lot of people get weird stuff to happen in a game either via gameshark or Action Replay, and the latter changes the game's coding while the former does not. Thus I have removed the glitch because it is deceitful and unfair to those without cheating or hacking devices, to use it to get an egg at the beginning of the game. (MichaelXD 16:46, 5 February 2012 (UTC))
White Out explanation.
I was a preteen when Gold and Silver came out, back when Clinton and Bush switched places. Anyways, even back then, I was under the assumption, and I remember (albeit on fan sites) verification that the term Black out was replaced with White Out over some kind of attempt at being political correct and racially sensitive. Especially after the Jynx thing started.
Another theory I had back then was that Blacking out is where everything goes black, and Whiting out is when everything goes white, or you loose consciousness for only a few seconds and do not lose time as you would with a full on black out. I vaguely remember in RBY the screen went black, but int Gold and Silver the screen went white, so that might be it?
Another theory, not of my own was a guy I knew back then, who told me that it took too much memory to black out the screen, and to save memory they stopped doing it. Still, to this day I kind of lean towards it being a Political Correct censorship thing. Yamitora1 (talk) 09:50, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
In other generations
Doesn't 'In other genarations' sound a little out of place? I mean 'Other' in comparison to what? I think it should be In the games, Gallery, Screenshots or something like that. --Raltseye (talk) 16:48, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
Generation V evolution during blackout not actually possible
I noticed during my initial run of White 2 that it is, in fact, impossible for Pokemon to evolve after blacking out if the player blacks out in the same battle they hit their evolutionary level. Leveling them further and not blacking out will make them evolve, though. Was this not the case in generations IV or VI? I never lost a battle while a Pokemon was ready to evolve in XYORAS, and I haven't lost a single fight in my ongoing run of Platinum. --MandL27 (talk) 03:19, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Pokémon XD
With a Lv. 10 Eevee and a Lv. 11 Teddiursa, losing against Navigator Berk in my first visit to Gateon Port led to me losing only $176 of my $5315, $16 × the level of my highest-leveled Pokémon. I had not yet visited any Pokémon Center, but I continued from Acri's house in Gateon Port. Will do additional tests later. --Abcboy (talk) 20:14, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
- With a Lv. 59 Houndoom, losing against Chaser Laken in Gateon Port at the end of the game led to me losing $944 of my $126,787, $16 × the level of my highest-leveled Pokémon. I still continued from Acri's house in Gateon Port. Both of the above were Double Battles, so I then tested a Single Battle in a new game. Losing against Chobin with a Lv. 10 Eevee led to me losing $160 of my $5000. I continued from the entrance to Kaminko's House.
- It appears that upon blacking out in XD, the player will respawn in a specific location in the current area. In Colosseum, blacking out against Chaser Gurks in The Under caused me to lose half my money and respawn in the Phenac Pokémon Center, the last one I used. --Abcboy (talk) 16:23, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
In Hoenn games...
If you healed in Dewford Pokémon Center after delivering the Letter to Steven, and went to Slateport via Briney's boat but blacked out before reaching Slateport Pokémon Center, you end up back in Dewford. Is Mr. Briney's boat still at Dewford? If not, it's possible to never advance the game state because of one defeat. Shawn (talk) 07:37, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
Move
With Scarlet and Violet, blacking out has now been referred to as being "overwhelmed by your defeat" across three different generations of core series games. Therefore, I think moving the article to Overwhelmed by defeat is the right move. Landfish7 07:48, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- Eeeeeeh, "overwhelmed by defeat" doesn't sound good as an article title, whereas black out feels more natural. Overwhelmed by defeat also sounds vaguer that black out. I think we should stick with the current title and mention the "overwhelmed by defeat" line in the article.--ForceFire 16:37, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
Generation 3 and 4
When the players blackout against a trainer in Generation 3 and 4, the opponent puts their Pokémon back to their PokeBall. I don't know if it's the case for Generation 5 TogekissFan4956 (talk) 16:44, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
