Talk:Lily of the Valley Conference

Why can't I edit things? I mean an episode has went by, Nando has been knocked out of the competition, we could even write what the first round consist of but I can't. --Zephyr 14:20, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Unprotect

Ok, can we get this unprotected now? There really is no reason to have it protected now that it is airing. The article is basically outdated now. --HoennMaster 19:45, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

This is why I think it should be unprotected. The mods aren't doing the best job either. trainers are not disqualified when they lose. There is a difference between losing and being disqualified. --HoennMaster 00:33, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

It's been unprotected for established editors. Fix it if you can, but please edit with caution because it is still an ongoing event. —darklordtrom 00:39, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! --HoennMaster 01:21, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Tournament Rounds

Can someone who understands Japanese well verify the section of the types of rounds in the tournament. The way the page is set up seems wrong. How could there be screening rounds if all 64 trainers were paired up right away? Were there screening taken place of screen prior in DP182? --HoennMaster 01:15, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Also, it says that the three on three battles take place int he three small arenas, however, I'm pretty sure that Ash and Conway battled in the main arena. --HoennMaster 01:17, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

I am a pokemon fan in the United States, but I may be able to help you answer the question. There are a couple rounds, known as the qualifying rounds. These take place at small arenas. Usually the tournaments start with something on the order of 256 competitors. The number gets halved, and halved again to get the 64 who will continue. This is the time that Ash battles Nando. Then it drops to 32. This is where Paul and Barry battle. It drops to 16, then 8, then 4, then 2, and finally the one that remains battles the elite four. That is how the tournament structure of the other tournaments work. This one should be no exception. Pokemon26 29 July 2010, 1:50 (UTC)

Jeffrey?

Why is Jeffrey here?-Billy4b2004 04:09, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Tournament Name

Am I missing something, because as far as I have heard while watching all of the episodes that have already aired, never once was the Sinnoh League Tournament referred to as the "Lilly of the Valley Conference." In fact, every mention has always just been of the "Sinnoh League." The did once call it the "Lily of the Valley Sinnoh League," but never the "Lilly of the Valley Conference." Just because it takes place on Lily of the Valley Island does not mean it must be named for it. And where does the word "conference" come from? The Indigo League doesn't use it (though its article does still use the name despite the lack of actual anime reference), why should we assume the Sinnoh League does. Unless someone can disprove this, I think the article and references to it should be just the "Sinnoh League," or at the very least something like the "Sinnoh Conference." - unsigned comment from Jas61292 (talk • contribs)

All the previous tournaments have been referred to as Conferences, and they have always been named after the location they take place, this one is no different. --HoennMaster 04:15, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Uhh, why are we assuming the tournament names again? Shouldn't we go by what the show says rather than come up with our own names? J-J-M 12:43, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

When have we assumed names before? Every Pokémon League has been named onscreen in the past. Not to mention the Japanese name is called "Suzuran Conference", and it is named after the island. It's not really assuming. --HoennMaster 16:04, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay, the others are fine. But as it stands the Sinnoh League hasn't been called "Lily of the Valley Conference", at least as of yet. Even though it's consistent with the other tournaments, let's not assume and give it a name. J-J-M 19:22, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

It's been called "Lily of the Valley Sinnoh League", and league and conference are often used interchangeably. So it's not exactly wrong and we don't have any other name to off. --HoennMaster 00:08, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

What's wrong with "Lily of the Valley Sinnoh League"? Anything's better than Conference. J-J-M 08:55, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Conference has been used for everything other league, and it fine for this one. --HoennMaster 22:35, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Not for this league. TPCi didn't for some reason so go by what the actual show says, not assuming the name. J-J-M 23:21, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Whose to say they won't call it this? We have to wait and see. Normally I would not approve of assuming, but every other league has used conference, so this is not a bad assumption. Honestly, this is getting nowhere so let a mod decide it. --HoennMaster 16:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

As I tried to say in my first post, not all of the tournaments have been called conferences, as the original season 1 tournament was just called the "Pokemon League" at the time, and later referred to as the "Indigo League", never the "Indigo Plateau Conference" as the bulbapedia article of it says. So, there is precedent for an name with out the word "Conference." Jas61292 19:06, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

This is the only Pokémon League Conference in which Ash places in the Top 4.

...this isnt true though, because he's top 2 in kalos which is... top 4. a more accurate would be "places in the semi finals" maybe, but top 4 counts the winner and the runner up as well.Roserade57 (talk) 05:10, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Ummmmm...wha...? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 05:14, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Top four includes first, second, third, and fourth. Ash has top four three times.Roserade57 (talk) 23:35, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

I still don't know what you're talking about. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:18, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Top two is not top four. That's not how that works. Someone finishing fourth is not in the top two.--ForceFire 06:02, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

that's not what I said. I said top four includes top two. Because you know... the top four placers are first, second, third, fourth. obviously top two doens't include the top four, its the other way round. - unsigned comment from Roserade57 (talk • contribs)

(resetting indent)Like, here's literal sources that show "top four" is first, second, third, and fourth:

https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2590454.html

"The following sides were entitled to go directly into the group stage: the UEFA Champions League winners; the UEFA Europa League winners; the top four in the Spanish, English, Italian and German leagues; France and Russia's top two; and the domestic champions in Portugal, Ukraine, Belgium and Turkey."

You know... the teams that come 1-4th in their leagues.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47806720

"The top four teams in the Premier League qualify for the Champions League, while the FA Cup winners, the Carabao Cup winners and the fifth-placed side in the top flight go into the Europa League. Simple, right?"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49258004

"This is the fourth season running where City have featured in everyone's forecasted top four, and the second successive season where no-one thinks they will finish below second." this link specifically shows "top four predictions", with people (and by people I mean professional sportsman) saying who they think will finish in places 1-4.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?source=hp&ei=GEN_XdGiE6uJjLsPzL60iAI&q=top+four&oq=top+four&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0l9j0i10.302.713..800...0.0..0.107.671.5j3......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i131.qDuasVfvR4o&ved=0ahUKEwjRjqfs8dTkAhWrBGMBHUwfDSEQ4dUDCAg&uact=5

Like straight up, you guys are using "top four" wrong. Do you not watch sport? top four is 1st, second, third, and fourth. if you place in the top four... you either came 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th place. if youre "top 2", you also finished in the top 4 places as well. Roserade57 (talk) 07:58, 16 September 2019 (UTC)