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==Two additions==
Are 'Browser' (as in the Fiore Browser) and 'Pokémon Storage System' collect capitalisations, or should they be lowercase? --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 03:59, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
:Okay, I checked and it is Pokémon Storage System. I don't actually own any Ranger games, but I checked a video online and it is indeed Browser. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:17, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

== Battles ==

If Double Battle, Triple Battle, etc. are capital, shouldn't the respective articles be moved asap to raise awareness? Take it from my example: I often base capitalization (when in doubt) to how it is in the article. <span style="font-family:Cracked; font-size:125%">[[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|<span style="color:#303030;">-tc</span>]][[User:Tc26|<span style="color:#e03828;">²₆</span>]][[User talk:Tc26|<span style="color:#303030;">tc</span>]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|<span style="color:#e03828;">26-</span>]]</span> 09:33, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
:Ideally, a lot of things should be moved. They don't really need approval (apart from maybe changing disambig brackets because that's huge) because this is right and the other is wrong, but the reason I haven't done it yet is because there is a lot of relinking that will need to be done as a result. If you want to move Double Battle, Triple Battle, etc., go ahead, but I really don't like doing relinking (I'm generally trying to juggle a tonne of other things anyway). I've seen BulbaBot do relinking before (I'm pretty sure), so if we could get it automated, that would be amazing. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:38, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

== Stat ==

how about stats such as Attack and Defense ? should they be capitalized ?--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 09:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
:Yes, they are capitalized in BW, and we go by the most recent main series games.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 10:01, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
::Yes. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:02, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
How about ribbons ? Do they need capitalization ?--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 14:15, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
:Yes. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:24, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Contests ?--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 20:10, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
:Yes. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#FF1111"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#DAA520"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 05:10, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
How about "Single Battle" and "Symbol" ? --[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 14:42, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
:Well ?--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 17:13, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
::Oh and status ailments too. --[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 19:49, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
:::And Wild ? damn I keep forgetting. --[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 11:29, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
::::Symbol and Single Battle are. Status ailments are not, and neither is wild Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:20, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

== TCG ==

Could this be expanded to include TCG? A lot of terms are incorrectly interpreted within the fandom, and it would be nice to have a list of them somwhere, which this page would be great for. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 15:53, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
:Absolutely. What kind of terms did you want to add? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:54, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
::I'll work out a list. I'll have to look through the entire TCG to get a complete group of them, and that might take a little bit. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|<sup style="color:#00008B;">'''Maverick'''</sup>]][[User talk:Maverick Nate|<sub style="color:#00008B;">'''Nate'''</sub>]]'' 19:06, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

== Mud and Bait ==
In-game (at least in SoulSilver) the 'mud' and 'bait' (as used in Safari Zone games) are capitalized in-game. (in NPC conversations) Is this sufficient reason to capitalize those terms (as they relate to usage in the Safari Zone) on Bulbapedia? [[User:Steph|Steph]] 20:09, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
:Yes. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:05, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

== Other ==

I've seen that starter is not capitalized and therefore should be added to the list.
How about Contest pass and Contest hall ?--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 14:29, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
:The reason I don't ave starter on the list is that I don't believe it is an official term. Since it is unofficial, it is lowercase by default. I want to keep this list restricted to official terms only. Contest Hall is covered by locations and Contest Pass by items. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:36, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
::At least you should specify that unofficial terms go lowercase by default.--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 14:38, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Good point. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:47, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Uhm, shouldn't it be specified what kind of Eggs, Fossils, Symbols and such should be capitalized ? New users might think that not only Frontier Symbols should be capitalized. The same for Pokémon Eggs and {{tt|Fossils|even I made a similar mistake with real-life ones}}.--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 18:00, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
:Also, how about the name of the series ? --[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 19:24, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
::What, "Pokémon"? It's already there. And all terms only refer to things within the Pokémon universe (Pokémon doesn't change the grammar rules of the English language). I'll add some more links to help clarify though. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:34, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
:::No, I meant series... Original, Advanced Generation...--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 14:47, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
But why don't the original series get capitalization ?--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 15:15, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
::::Uhm, well ?--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 15:38, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::It's not an official term, and you'll notice that it's never capitalized on BP anywhere (well, there's always a few strays). Same reason it's not italicized. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:45, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
When exactly do words use "the" and don't use "the". An example [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hoenn&diff=1694988&oldid=1694977 here] and [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Wallace&diff=1694989&oldid=1694982 here]. Also, how about "Cave of Origin" ? What does that use ?--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 16:22, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
:Also, how about level and gender ? --[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 16:37, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
::Bulleted points (when they're not sentences) and sections work like article titles. So while in a sentence you would always write "the [[Wallace Cup]]", in the article title it is merely called "[[Wallace Cup]]". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:22, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Well, how about "level", "gender" and Cave of Origin ?--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 14:01, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
::::"The Cave of Origin", "level", and "gender". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:02, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

== Move Tutor ==

In-game (in SoulSilver, on a sign in Blackthorn City) and several times on Pokémon.com, 'move tutor' is capitalized as 'Move Tutor'. However, Bulbapedia consistently spells the term as 'move tutor.' Is the evidence for capitalization of the term sufficient to overturn the Bulbapedia convention? [[User:Steph|Steph]] ([[User talk:Steph|talk]]) 15:28, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
:The sign in Blackthorn City and the map description of Driftveil City do not mean anything, as all words are capitalized in those media regardless of whether they should be usually or not (both are followed by a capital "House"). However, since both Pokémon.com and Prima guidebooks use Move Tutor, I believe that it is fair to say that it should be capitalized (at least until we get it used in in-game in a sentence). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:40, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

== Stuff ==

How about [[Pokémon world (Mystery Dungeon)|this]] ? Do none of them get "the" or just some ?  Also, what does [[Cave of Origin]] get ? Do "level" and "gender" need capitalization ?--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 12:03, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
:Oh, just now I've seen that you replied above... Sorry.--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 12:04, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
::I would think that many of them would use "the" in sentences, but in a list like that they shouldn't. I've got a lot of catching up to do right now, so I don't have time to watch a bunch of PMD LPs to work out whether each location uses "the" or not right now (I'm not restarting my games just for that purpose). You're welcome to investigate yourself, if you would like. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:10, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
:::I'll pass, got a lot of other stuff to edit. Btw, how long will it take for this page to be mainspaced ?--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 12:16, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
::::Probably when the rest of the MoS gets finished, since I'm essentially breaking off part of it (honestly I started this because I saw people warring over the useage of "the" a few times and checked what it should have been, but I kept forgetting and needing to check again so this page just compiled the list of them). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:18, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::That's great. Good thinking.--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 12:30, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
How about {{pkmn|cosplay}} ? Is it capitalized ?--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 12:58, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
::::::It's not official terminology, so no. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:40, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
How about [[aura]] ? --[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 10:50, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
:::::::No idea, but I would assume lowercase. It hasn't appeared in the games, the TCG is meaningless since it is both in a card title and at the start of a sentence, and I only have a DVD of one anime episode (Pokemon.com does work for this because DVDs have official subtitles) from AG and no manga, so I have no way of checking. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:04, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Ah well... Uhm could you explain me the hypenation a lil better ? You said in a previous discussion that " Correct usage would be "Snorlax is a Normal type" (used as a noun) or "Snorlax is Normal-type" (used as an adjective)." That means it applies to all adjectives not necessarily if they're standing next to a noun ? "Snorlax is Normal-type is the same with Snorlax is a Normal-type Poké" right ? That means that "Snorlax being a Normal-type is immune to the Ghost type", the first is hypenated while the last isn't ?--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 12:09, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
:To answer the question about [[Aura]], yes, it is capitalized. See [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-movies/movie-pokemon-lucario-and-the-mystery-of-mew-2006/ here], [http://www.pokemon.com/us/tv-episodes/season-11/episode-29-11_29-pokemon-ranger-and-the-kidnapped-riolu-part-1/ here] and [http://www.pokemon.com/us/tv-episodes/season-11/episode-30-11_30-pokemon-ranger-and-the-kidnapped-riolu-part-2/ here]. And I have a question; anime-exclusive Trainer classes are capitalized? There is an inconsistency, [[Pokémon Connoisseur]] is, but [[Pokémon watcher]] and [[Pokémon stylist]] are not.--[[User:Mikuri|Mikuri]] ([[User talk:Mikuri|talk]]) 13:14, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
::Your hyphenation was all right except "Snorlax being a Normal type is immune to the Ghost type" is the correct hyphenation (although it still sounds weird and I would phrase it "Snorlax, being a Normal type, is immune to Ghost-type moves"). Anyway, if you're havng difficulty distinguishing if the phrase is being used as an adjective or noun, it is usually preceded by "a" or "the" when used as a noun (e.g. "Snorlax is a Normal type" and "The Normal type is the best type"); when used as an adjective, it is usually preceded by a verb, adverb, or adjective or proceeded by a noun (e.g. "Snorlax is Normal-type", "Normal-type Snorlax is weak to Fighting-type moves")
::I'd really like some reliable print source before we decide to make all anime Trainer classes capitalized (the current inconsistencies are not reassuring to the reliability of random books or Pokemon.com). I think we should go off manga, or failing that, subtitles if there is an inconsistency in print media (if it doesn't appear in the games). Aura and Stylist I'm happy with capitalizing based on Pokemon.com, however, because neither has conflicting sources. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:18, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
:::So.. it's ok to go right ahead and capitalize them ?--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 15:24, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
::::Aura and Pokémon Stylist? Yeah. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:26, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
Then I guess you should add them to the list.--[[User:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">--'''DJ'''</span>]][[User talk:DJWolfy|<span style="color:Blue;">'''Wolfy'''</span>]] 16:03, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

== Team Rocket ==
Should I correct instances of "Team Rocket (Jessie, James, and Meowth, not the organization itself) made their appearance" to "Team Rocket made its appearance"? 
(For context, see http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Steph&redirect=no#TRT)[[User:Steph|Steph]] ([[User talk:Steph|talk]]) 21:56, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
:What Werdane said on your talk page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:43, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

== Lv. ==

Is "Lv." as in "Lv. 80 Arceus" capitalized? On a side note, super effective doesn't seem like a noun. I think you should also mention Route 34 and ashigatana/Ashigatana. On another side note, can you explain why anime episodes are italicized? I always thought they were to be put in quotation marks. [[Special:Contributions/Enervation|<span style="color:black">~</span>]][[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 00:14, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
:I believe Lv. is, but it shouldn't be written that way on Bulbapedia anyway. Yeah, you're right and I've tried to rephrase it to be correct. Ashigatana is a Japanese word romanized, not an English name, so we don't know whether it should or shouldn't be capitalized; however, it would appear that the day after you posted this message we got its English name from Pokédex 3D Pro, "seamitar", which is apparently uncapitalized. I believe they should be, but Bulbapedia opted to use italics a long time ago; quotation marks would certainly make more sense for "[[DP098|If the Scarf Fits, ''Wear'' It!]]", however. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 03:08, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

== Scalchops, Stylers, and Preferred Tense ==
Should "scalchop" be capitalized or uncapitalized? Since it's not worth making another talk topic over, what about "styler"? (as in "capture styler") In addition, what is the preferred tense (at least episode synopsis-wise) in Bulbapedia's articles? (for example, which is preferred: "Meowth grabbed Pikachu with the grabbing device" or "Meowth grabs Pikachu with the grabbing device"?  [[User:Steph|Steph]] ([[User talk:Steph|talk]]) 23:45, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
:Scalchop is already on the page (it was added on [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:SnorlaxMonster/Pok%C3%A9mon_Syntax&diff=next&oldid=1704623 June 18]); it is uncapitalized. Styler should be capitalized, as should Capture Styler. Tense in episodes I'm not sure of, but would belong on [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime|the anime MoS]], not here, because this page is about official syntax while episode synopsis tense is a stylistic choice. Ask Kenji-girl about it; it needs to be on the anime MoS. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:03, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

== Bicycles, Pokégear, Pester Ball ==
Should "bicycle" (as it pertains to the games) be capitalized? It is capitalized on its page, but inconsistently. The term "Pokégear" is referred to with and without camel case. ('PokéGear' being the camel case equivalent) Which is the correct case? Pester balls, used in Pokémon Snap, appear to be regular Poké Balls. (which are capitalized) However, they are not actually Poké Balls. 'Pester Ball' is capitalized on its page----should it be capitalized? [[User:Steph|Steph]] ([[User talk:Steph|talk]]) 19:18, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
:Bicycle should be, and is already covered being an item name. Pokégear was camelcase in a TCG card released in Genereation II, but HGSS and the new Pokégear card have fixed it and it is officially not camelcase (I'll add it to the page). Pester Ball is only written in allcaps in-game as far as I can tell from videos, so it should be capitalized. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:46, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
::So "bicycle" should never be used generically? More words/phrases: lake trio, [[the Underground]], {{tt|movie|as in Pokéstar Studios}}, [[lookalike item]], [[physical move]], {{weather|Shadow Sky}} (and other [[weather]]), {{m|substitute}} (the actual doll), and {{a|Levitate|levitating}}. Should <nowiki><sc></nowiki> ever be used? Should "Contest Properties" on [[type]] pages be changed to "Contest properties"? [[Special:Contributions/Enervation|<span style="color:black">~</span>]][[User:Enervation|Enervation]] 00:43, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
:::You could argue that outside of the games it could, but I think for consistency and lack of evidence indicating otherwise, Bicycle should be always be capitalized. Lake trio and lake guardians were both used in the anime (the same episode even), but without subtitles I can't say if they should be capitalized, but for now no. Underground has now been added. I'd like to wait for the English release for making a judgement on B2W2 terms. Lookalike Item is capitalized (as is [[Exclusive Item]]). Shadow Sky... I've never played Colo or XD, but from looking at videos, that's probably not the best name for the weather condition; it looks like "shadowy aura" would be a better name. "Status" in the description of {{a|Prankster}} is lowercase, so I would say that physical and special should be too (there's probably a better source for this, but I'm not sure where to look). The substitute doll is lowercase (and I have now added it to the page). Based on the description of the [[Iron Ball]], levitating is lowercase, but it's not really an official term anyway. <nowiki><sc></nowiki> should be used when quoting the games and they use ALLCAPS. This is much more common in older games, and you will see it used in Pokédex entries, and move, item, and Ability descriptions. "Contest Properties" should be changed to "Contest properties". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:51, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

== Weather conditions? ==

[[Talk:Weather conditions#Weather quotes|This discussion]] has several references to the description of weather within the games. My Prima guide capitalizes it: "The Hail weather will last in all the wild Pokémon battles from Route 216 to Snowpoint City." while the games vary on capitalization, leaning towards non-capitalization. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:25, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
:Games take priority over guidebooks. Games have them exclusively uncapitalized in the most recent appearances (older games are less consistent in syntax, and retcon means that new conventions take priority). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 02:06, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
::Okay then. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 02:49, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

== Conquest capitalization ==
About your request at my talk page, I've done a lot of Pokémon Conquest capitalization on the site, which may be good to have on this page. I'll list some of it here, deliberately excluding the many battlefield features, which can be found in the kingdom articles, correctly capitalized.

'''Uncapitalized'''
* link
* kingdom
* ponigiri (not the item)
* red ponigiri (the Ponigiri Shop service, not the item)
* blue ponigiri (the Ponigiri Shop service, not the item)
* move rank
* story
* army
* castle
* month
* recruit
* equip
* <kingdom weather conditions>

'''Capitalized'''
* Perfect Link
* Energy
* Range
* Warrior
* Warlord
* Warrior Skill
* Ponigiri (the item, not the Ponigiri Shop service or otherwise)
* Red Ponigiri (the item, not the Ponigiri Shop service)
* Blue Ponigiri (the item, not the Ponigiri Shop service)
[[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 16:10, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
:Are you sure you have your Ponigiri around the right way, because it contradicts [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ponigiri&diff=1868079&oldid=1859739 your edit here]. I haven't played Conquest, so I'm relying on you. I'm not sure how important some of those words you had there are (e.g. month) so I haven't added them all. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
::I listed the Ponigiri Shop services (not the items) as uncapitalized, and in the edit you're linking to, I changed various Ponigiri Shop services (not the items) from upper to lower case. How is that a contradiction? All the words I listed are central terms in the game, so it's your call what to include or not (some could be considered self-explanatory), although I would say I disagree on the exclusion of "move rank". [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 14:26, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
:::I'll add move rank then. In that edit it looks to me like you changed item names to lowercase; I understood the service as selling Ponigiri, and "only the ponigiri is sold" appears to be talking about the item. I typically excluded things if they didn't have their own articles; if they are important concepts they typically do. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:58, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
::::Well, that's not the case - those are the Ponigiri Shop services, bought and instantly consumed - not items, not capitalized. The items, which can be kept and equipped for usage in battle, can be bought from Shops, as opposed to Ponigiri Shops. I'm elaborating on this misunderstanding because the information is still hidetagged on your page. Also, I'd suggest rephrasing to emphasize a few points that are currently missing; the word ponigiri is never capitalized, except when appearing in the name of the Ponigiri Shop kingdom utility or the items Ponigiri, Red Ponigiri, Blue Ponigiri, and Purple Ponigiri. Ponigiri is not capitalized in the names of the Ponigiri Shop services ponigiri, red ponigiri, and blue ponigiri. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 18:14, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
:::::Ah, okay, that makes sense then. This is one of the problems I come across when trying to do this for games I haven't played. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 13:13, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
::::::Sorry to nitpick, but your wording in the special case of ponigiri misses the point that ponigiri is a term itself. While it currently reads:
::::::*The items Ponigiri, Red Ponigiri, Blue Ponigiri, and Purple Ponigiri (which are stored in the player's inventory) are always capitalized, as is Ponigiri Shop. However, the shop services (which can be purchased at Ponigiri Shops) are uncapitalized.
::::::The following would offer a full explanation:
::::::*Ponigiri is not a capitalized term. However, that does not mean it is exempted from capitalization when appearing in titles that are capitalized. This is the case with Pokémon Conquest kingdom locations (i.e. Ponigiri Shop) and items (i.e. Ponigiri, Red Ponigiri, Blue Ponigiri, and Purple Ponigiri), but not with the services available at Ponigiri Shops (i.e. ponigiri, red ponigiri, and blue ponigiri). [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 17:02, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
:::::::It's alright, I appreciate nitpicking (that's basically what this page is and how wikis work). I've rewritten the point in a way I think reflects this. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:25, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

== Supereffective ==
Also, it seems that more recent games prefer "a ''supereffective'' move is a move that is super effective" over "a ''super-effective'' move is a move that is super effective", so you may want to consider that. [[User:Yvnr|Yvnr]] ([[User talk:Yvnr|talk]]) 16:10, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
:I had noticed that a while ago and meant to add it to the page, but never got around to. I've added it now. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 07:06, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

== I have a question ==

I'm a little confused about some of the names of places that require the use of "the" before it. I agree with most of them, but I refer to [[Slowpoke Well]], [[Sky Pillar]], [[Eterna Forest]], [[Spear Pillar]], and [[Snowpoint Temple]] without using "the" first (maybe [[Skyarrow Bridge]] as well?). It sounds more natural to me; they're names of specific places. Doesn't the sentence "I went to Sky Pillar" or "I entered Eterna Forest" make more sense than "I went to the Sky Pillar" or "I entered the Eterna Forest"? Admittedly, Sky Pillar could go either way, but I don't think the other four should have "the" used before them. [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 10:18, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
:Just so you know, this isn't conjecture, this is they way they are officially referred to. The problem is you're viewing them in the wrong way; the Spear Pillar and Sky Pillar are the pillar of the sky and the spear-shaped pillar, respectively, not just something named "Sky Pillar". The Eterna Forest and the Snowpoint Temple work in the same way as "the Snowpoint Pokémon Center". Similar logic can be applied to your other objections. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:25, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
::I see. Never mind. [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 11:26, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

== CamelCase ==

You should note that the DeepSea items CamelCase isn't present in Mystery Dungeon (at least Rescue and Explorers). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 10:53, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

== Baby Pokémon ==

Is the group name Baby Pokémon always capitalized or not capitalized? --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 22:46, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
:From Crystal and HeartGold text dumps, it's "baby Pokémon". Unless there's some example in B2W2 onward of it capitalized, it's not (I couldn't find any in BW). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:18, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

== Starter Pokémon ==

Are starter Pokémon has to be always capitalized or uncapitalized? --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 10:01, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
:It's not really an official term, so "starter" is not capitalized. It does appear [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-episodes/07_31-six-pack-attack/ here] and [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-episodes/chronicles-14-journey-to-the-starting-line/ here], but I really don't trust Pokémon.com episode summaries for that kind of thing because they very often contain errors. It may be the case that guidebooks capitalize it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:39, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

== Evolution ==

Is the capitalization of evolution/Evolution a new thing as of XY? I ask because I can't remember it happening in any game other than as part of Mega Evolution (although my memory is very probably faulty) and our style has always been to lowercase it. Also, your note just says "derivative terms," but some changes have been reverted on the grounds that the games don't capitalize the verb form; exactly which derivative terms should and should not be capitalized, then? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:54, 6 April 2014 (UTC)