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Um...A Hydra?  How's that possible?  I only see one head on that thing!--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 18:05, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

I was wondering the same thing myself.  Although I do believe the Hydra posessed only one head until hercules started chopping them off. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 19:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
:Nope, that's only in the Disney movie. It already had several heads when Heracles first confronted it.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 11:31, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


Is it really 0x fire damage to Heatran?  -Gab
:Yes, due to its {{a|Flash Fire}} ability. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] <sup>|[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]|</sup> 12:11, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== Relation to Dialga and Palkia ==
"Heatran was born from the flames of a volcano when Dialga, Palkia and their relations first created the universe. The lava and magma pooled together to became Heatran."
I've only ever seen this here.  I don't recall it ever being mentioned at all in the games.  Seriously, does ''every'' Sinnoh Legendary have to be related to be related to the creation myth?--[[User:Dual|Dual]] 01:19, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think Buck's grampa says it. - Vereux0
Even then lava and magma are the same thing so it doesn't make any sense. The only difference between the two is that one is made above ground and the other underneath it. -Lord Hyren 23:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== Evolution? ==

I know Heatran is a Legendary and can't evolve, but the official Prima guide for Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 says something different. In the back of the book there's a Bulbasaur-Darkrai Pokédex. It has a part where it shows the evolution line for that Pokémon. If a Pokémon doesn't evolve, it says "Does not Evolve", but for Heatran, it says "*" and under it, it says "*Check the official Pokémon website in the future for a possible announcement about Heatran [pokemon.com]". [[User:Yinyang1195|<span style="border: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="color:#000000;">Yin</span></span>]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|<span style="background:#000000;"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Yang</span></span>]] 21:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
:Ooh! I just found out is has the same thing for {{tt|Giratina|Origin Forme?}} [[User:Yinyang1195|<span style="border: 1px solid #000000;"><span style="color:#000000;">Yin</span></span>]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|<span style="background:#000000;"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Yang</span></span>]] 21:29, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
::It's mabye the new forms or a '''big mistake''' in the book '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF0000>Co</font><font color=#FFFF00>ol</font>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#00FF00>Pi</font><font color=#00FFFF>ka</font><font color=#0000FF>chu</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF00FF>!</font>]]'''
:::Hmmm... So that means Heatran might appear in movie 11, eh? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:48, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Mabye wat woulf Heatran have to with a movie a small-role,camao appearence?who knows '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF0000>Co</font><font color=#FFFF00>ol</font>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#00FF00>Pi</font><font color=#00FFFF>ka</font><font color=#0000FF>chu</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF00FF>!</font>]]'''05:50, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::We're probably just gonna have too wait and see. To be honest, i didn't/don't think Heatran is going to be in the new Movie...I just had a feeling it won't. [[User:Takoto|<span style="color:#2E0854"><b>Takoto タコト</b></span>]] 06:01, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
:Too many legendaries in one movie= Terrible movie. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<span class="explain" title="Optimus35"><sc>Optimatum</sc></span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]</sup>''07:30 10 May 2008'''''
::Yes it is too many Pokemon Legends they '''need'' to save some for the '''NEXT MOVIE'''. 
'''[[User:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF0000>Co</font><font color=#FFFF00>ol</font>]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|<font color=#00FF00>Pi</font><font color=#00FFFF>ka</font><font color=#0000FF>chu</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|<font color=#FF00FF>!</font>]]'''

:::As far as Legendaries go, I don't think Heatran will make a good movie subject.  It doesn't have an exciting a backstory as the rest.  They need to just go ahead and make an Arceus movie.  ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="midnightblue" face="comic sans ms">'''$aturn'''</font>]][[User:SaturnYoshi|<font color="green" face="comic sans ms">'''¥oshi'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:SaturnYoshi|<font color="maroon">THE VOICES</font>]]</sup> 15:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

i think it will appear in the eleventh movie cuz of the deck set: cry from the mysterious\temple of anger as heatran is shown in the pack art and in that article it says that it the deck will debut around the time of the elventh movie.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:30, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

The people at Prima who make the Pokémon guides are IDIOTS. In the Pokémon Colloseum "guide", they said that BAYLEEF should be used to take down the GOLBAT used by one of the trainers in the Pyrite Town square; anyone who's actually played these games knows that a Golbat would kick a Bayleef's ***. 
:If you're going to use a Player's Guide for these games, go for the Nintendo Power ones (even if the guide quality has declined since Nintendo Power was bought by that other magazine company). [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 17:04, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

::Not every Prima guide's terrible.  Yes, they do put out some crappy ones, but they put out a quite excellent one for the Gamecube version of {{wp|The Legend of Zelda:  Twilight Princess}}.  Sure, there are a few errors in that guide (a 100-Rupee chest was put down by Prima as being at the Bridge of Eldin and not the Great Bridge of Hylia where it actually is, and they missed two chests in the choking mists of Faron Woods and one more in the Gerudo Desert), but it's probably one of the best game guides I've ever used despite those errors.

::Case in point:  Judge the trash by what's inside, not by a logo on the outside.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:44, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh, you have a point, the Twilight Princess one was pretty good. Must be it's just the Pokémon ones that have what seems like a minimum of 3 mistakes per page. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 15:55, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

So Heatran really do have a new form, given the new evidence! I wonder if they'll create a 4th version of DP and have it as the mascot! Um, or they will simply give out a item that will transfer it to the new form in a event!-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 11:34, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:We've not seen a fourth version except in the Japanese Generation I.. so I Disagree. <span style="border: 1px dashed #0088FF;">[[User:Gywall|<span style="color:#FF8800;">'''Gyw</span><span style="color:#FFAE00;">all'''</span>]]</span> <span style="border: 1px dashed #00CFFF;"><small>[[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]</small></span> 11:45, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Well. I've the PMD2 pokedex like brochure on the net,it wasnt really a good resolution and captions were written to clarify, same thing written about heatran evolution and giratina evolution, so we got a 50% chance that Pokémon A in movie 12 is a new forme heatran OR Arceus.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 11:55, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== movie 12 ==

Heatran is officially included in movie 12, read serebii to see.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 16:11, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:Already mentioned in the article. ×'''[[User:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#A2958D">Ke</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|<span style="color:#B8B8D0">vz</span>]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|<span style="color:#705898">o8</span>]]''' 02:43, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

== In Movie 11? ==

This article repeats a claim I have never seen substantiated, that Heatran appeared on a stone mosaic in Movie 11 along with a number of other Legendaries. I would like to see proof of this. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 01:45, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

:Seconded! [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 07:12, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

== Breeding? ==

Noticing that it has a low hatch rate like Manaphy and unlike other legendaries, and being the first legendary that can be either male or female, how does this sound for trivia, after the current note about it's hatch rate.  Different wording would probably be good though.
**Because of this, it may have originally been intended to be able to breed. [[User:Derian|&#91;&#91;Derian&#93;&#93;]] 13:56, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:Largely baseless speculation. It's a no-go. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 21:58, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokemon? ==

Just wondering, what exactly makes Heatran a Legendary Pokemon? What sets it apart from say Snorlax, or Rotom? I mean it has a gender for Pete's sake! <sub style="color:#00008B;">'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''</sub> <sup>[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]</sup> 23:27, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
:It just is. It's been confirmed several times. ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|<font color="Red">Cu</font>]][[User talk:CuboneKing|<font color="Bronze">bo</font>]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|<font color="Green">ne</font>]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|<font color="Black">King</font>]] 23:29, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
::Thats what I am wondering. What confirms that? Is it in-game text, or an announcement on the Pokemon website? <sub style="color:#00008B;">'''[[User:Blake|Blake]]'''</sub> <sup>[[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]</sup> 23:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

== Salamander? ==
Heatran doesn't look reptillian, and would also be Fire/Dragon and not Fire/Steel if it was really a salamander, I'm dropping this. {{unsigned|Gorebyss}}

== Name? ==
Couldn't it be possible that the "tran" in Heatran's name could be from {{wp|transgender|TRANsgender}} or {{wp|Transsexualism|TRANsexual}}? --[[User:Mr.lol|Mr.lol]] 14:24, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:The prefix for those words is trans-, not tran-. And I don't see how this could relate to Heatran. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:28, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::Heatran can be either gender. --[[User:Mr.lol|Mr.lol]] 14:45, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== Not fastest hatch rate of legendarys ==

It says in the trivia of Heatran's page that it and Manaphy have the fastest hatch rate of all legendary pokemon. This is false since Heatran has a hatch rate of 11 cycles, whereas Mew has a hatch rate of only 2 cycles. [[User:Blaze B75|Blaze B75]] 23:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

== Heatran CAN breed. ==

On THREE different copies of Pokemon Diamond, me and my brother captured heatran (all females, I might add) and placed each one in the breeding center with a Ditto. End result: A ton of little baby Heatran running around. It was kinda crazy. Unfortunately, at least two of the copies seem to have disappeared but as soon as I find the third- WAIT I think I know where my Soulsilver is, I could hack in a Heatran with a pokemon modifier or something. But the point: Heatran are NOT in the No-Egg group, at least not in Diamond/Pearl. Note that the Trivia section mentions the inability to breed.

EDIT: I will add a video link as soon as it's successful.

[[User:YourBuddyBill|Your Buddy Bill]] 00:34, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

:If you hack it then you can't say it's true. If you give me a liget non-hacked/cloned/modifier then we will prove it. [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Special:Contributions/Truthseeker4449|4449]] 00:41, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
::Hey, well, he never said that the Heatran were hacked.  Still, I want a hundred percent proof.  --[[User:YoshisWorld|<span style="color:#00FF00">'''☆ヨッシ'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/YoshisWorld|<span style="color:#CCFF33">'''ー'''</span>]] [[User talk:YoshisWorld|<span style="color:#FF0000">'''の世界☆'''</span>]] 00:46, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
:::Tried out my Heatran (which is a boy). "The two prefer to play with other Pokémon more than with each other." So there's my response. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 00:49, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
::::If he uses a Pokémon modifier, then he could skew the resuts and the trustworthyness of the test [[User:Truthseeker4449|Truth]][[User talk:Truthseeker4449|seeker]][[Special:Contributions/Truthseeker4449|4449]] 00:52, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
:::::If I show the AR codes used (to show that it's ONLY changing the pokemon to a heatran or someting like that) will that be proof enough for you? I guess all the Heatran we put in in DP were female, if that has anything to do with anything. [[User:YourBuddyBill|Your Buddy Bill]] 12:40, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
::::::Being male or female has nothing to do with it, "The two prefer to play with other Pokémon more than with each other." There's your answer, Heatran can't breed. Not only is it concrete in the game's code, do you honestly not think that someone would have tried breeding their Heatran before in the past 5 years? - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 14:00, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

== The Weather Quartet! ==

I just got some similarities with Heatran, Groudon, Kyogre and Rayquaza: They represent the earth's core, the earth's landmass, the earth's sea and the earth's sky. Together they represent water, earth, fire and air. They are all created at an indispensable part of earth. They all are also guardians of a treasure of the seven treasures. [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] 18:06, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

== Anime-Only Moves ==
I don't wanna go changing it myself because I suck at tables and stuff but... Eruption isn't an anime-only move. It's an [[Guardian Signs|event move]]. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] ([[User talk:Me, Hurray!|talk]]) 13:42, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

== Origin of Heatran's Name in Japanese ==

Dear all users of Bulbapedia,

In Japanese Pokemon Encyclopaedia, Heatran's page (http://wiki.xn--rckteqa2e.com/wiki/%E3%83%92%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3) tells that ...

"Heatran"['''Hii-doran'''] comes from the words: '''火 ("Hi"; fire), Ὕδρα (Hydra, the Lernaean), with combination of Heat and Dragon'''.

Should we have to edit the section about its origin name in Japanese? Beacuse I also think that its name does not simply come from heat and transfer.

Thank you for attention!

--[[User:Simarut_Lapisatepun|<span style="color:green">Simarut Lapisatepun</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Simarut_Lapisatepun|<span style="color:red">tAlk</span>]])''</small>    29 January, 2015, 15:40(UTC)

== The Jaune Plaza Thing ==

I don't know for certain but I'm pretty sure I heard that the Trivia bit about Jaune Plaza is an English mistranslation. I think in the Japanese version, one of the ladies in the plaza imitates Heatran's cry, and the other dude says that he thinks there must be a lava dome Pokémon somewhere in the plaza. (Because her imitation is so good.)

I dunno. Can someone confirm this? {{unsigned|Qwertyo76}}
:I found [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qgx_vIPw8w&t=11m a Japanese video] with those two women, and all the first says is, "I hear there's a Pokemon in Jaune Plaza". The second line also got embellished a bit in the English, because the Japanese doesn't include any sort of laugh like [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3Kgs1EDrRs&t=15s in the English games]. So together that seems pretty suspect.
:On the other hand, I can't be sure of this, but I have this idea that those two women don't always say the same lines, so it may be possible that there's still another Japanese line. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:18, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

== Catching one? (Why is this info never on the Pokemon pages?) ==

Why is there NO INFO AT ALL on how to catch a Heatran in Diamond/Pearl/Platinum? There's barely even info related to the Magma Stone or anything. 

Why do you guys purposely leave out important information like this on the '''main page''' of the Pokemon or erase it whenever someone tries to edit in the information on where to find or catch a Pokemon at. This was also the case for Spiritomb, which has NO information on how to get one at (and had the info erased when I myself tried to add it in.) It's a shame I have to go to another website just to find basic info on how to actually CATCH a Heatran, something that should be right on the main paragraph of the Pokemon's page, assuming it's a legendary or hard/complicated to get. {{unsigned|Mcheetah}}
:It [[User talk:Mcheetah#Spiritomb|was explained to you]] why your Spiritomb edit was reverted. You tried to put it in the intro, when such info belongs in the Game locations section if anywhere. The same goes for any details regarding the Magma Stone.
:You kind of need to rein in your frustration a bit. No one has prevented you from trying to improve this page or any other page relevant to the Magma Stone/catching Heatran. The next time, before jumping to a talk page to yell about the wiki's failings, please try to improve it yourself first. (And don't use your reversion on Spiritomb as an excuse. Your mistake was well explained to you, you should be able to learn from it. If you're not confident, you can always ask for help. That would be much more productive than throwing out accusations.)
:Also, please try to remember to sign your posts. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:12, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
::[[Heatran_(Pokémon)#Game_locations]]. Make sure you actually read the article, don't expect the information to be in the first paragraph of every page.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:30, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

== Heatran's Eyes ==

In Pokémon {{gameabbrev5|BW}}/{{gameabbrev5|B2W2}} ''and'' {{gameabbrev6|XY}}/{{gameabbrev6|ORAS}}, Heatran's eyes remain open while it's sleeping. This seems to contradict what is stated in the [[Heatran (Pokemon)#Biology|Biology section]] of the article:

"''Heatran has a gray underside, and its face is covered by an iron mask, '''with red-orange eyes uncovered'''.''"

Is it possible that this is nothing but a double oversight from the developers, or does Heatran simply not have eyelids? In the latter case, would this be a candidate for the [[Heatran (Pokemon)#Trivia|Trivia section]]?

- [[User:Jaxon|Jaxon]] ([[User talk:Jaxon|talk]]) 01:17, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
:Biology sections are derived from depictions. Don't take them as absolute gospel.
:At any rate, the sentence you're quoting merely means that the ''mask'' has eye holes. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:26, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
::Thanks for the clarification. However, I got the part about the mask, so my question still stands: Would the fact that Heatran doesn't close its eyes while sleeping in any of the games with said feature qualify as something to be added to the Trivia section? Or perhaps the Biology section? (That it apparently lacks eyelids)
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::- [[User:Jaxon|Jaxon]] ([[User talk:Jaxon|talk]]) 02:16, 9 October 2016 (UTC)