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== English name for ドット ==
There has been multiple reversions of an addition of fan translations of the real name ドット. A Japanese-only name feels out of place, though. I suggest a tentative removal of her real name in the lead section, and wait for official sources to come out. <span lang="ja">[[User:馬|馬]]</span><sub>Horse</sub> ([[User talk:馬|talk]]) 11:53, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
:Simple thing is, the name you gave was a fan translation, not the confirmed English name which we use. Only when the English name is confirmed do we add it.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:59, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

== Move to Dot ==

Wouldn't it be better to move this page to Dot which is the real character's name and just like with characters [[Professor Kukui (anime)|with]] [[Meyer|alter]] [[Mr. Parker|egos]]?It's not like the reveal of her identity is a huge plot twist for the anime.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 18:03, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
:I asked the other admin about this, AbcBoy replied ''I'd say it should be up to whether we see more of Dot or Nidothing in the future. For instance, if they update the official website to list Dot instead of Nidothing''--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 18:09, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
::I think it is safe to move this page to Dot now, no? [[User:Qwerty12|Qwerty12]] ([[User talk:Qwerty12|talk]]) 18:25, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
:::We should wait until we get an English name for her, all we have dub wise is Nidothing.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 18:32, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

== Dot's romaji name ==

This has been reverted multiple times. '''ドット''' (Dot) is her Japanese name, shouldn't her romanization be '''Dotto''' and not '''Dot'''?  

From Kanshudo:
"The small kana 'tsu' symbol, either hiragana っ or katana ッ, is usually used to represent a doubled consonant, known in Japanese as a 
そくおん
促音
, as in for example ハット (hat) or やっぱり (as expected) or あっさり (readily). The tsu symbol essentially causes whatever consonant begins the next kana to be doubled, so ハット is actually pronounced something like ha-t-to." [[User:QuickJolteon|QuickJolteon]] ([[User talk:QuickJolteon|talk]]) 19:40, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
:"Dot" is an actual name, and ''ドット'' is normally romanized as "Dot".--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#F34134">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F7837B">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#8334B7">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#AE7BD0">ire</span>]] 10:22, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
::Better explanation: We use the actual names that are being transliterated, not the Hepburn romanization of the names. ドット is ''Dotto'' in Hepburn romanization, but the actual name being transliterated here (as used as the official/trademark romanization) is "Dot". [[User:TheEliteMaster|TheEliteMaster]] ([[User talk:TheEliteMaster|talk]]) 10:17, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

== Quaxly? ==

Do we know that the Quaxly is actually Dot's pokemon? It doesn't seem that is confirmed anywhere. For all we know, Quaxly could be only a random pokemon living on the ship that just happens to like to appear in Dot's videos. --[[User:Nayfaan|<span style="font-family:Impact;text-shadow:0.06em 0.06em #222224;"><span style="color:#F00000">Nay</span><span style="color:#F0F0F0">faan</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Nayfaan|talk]])([[Special:Contributions/Nayfaan|contributions]]) 23:40, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
::https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pocketmonster2023/#latest --[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 23:57, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

== Eyes photo ==

While the article already has a picture of her with her hair up, I think this one is better, since it's larger and clearer and showcases her eyes better. Should we add it too?
[[a:File:Dot_eyes.png|500px]]
[[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 08:57, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

== Dot as third protagonist ==
Should we call Dot as one of the protagonists since she now became Quaxly's trainer? [[User:Nintenchris5963|Nintenchris5963]] ([[User talk:Nintenchris5963|talk]]) 05:38, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
:Actually, no. Dot is still the supporting character. --[[User:Dharakjoo|Dharakjoo]] ([[User talk:Dharakjoo|talk]]) 10:24, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
::Agreed, Dot currently feels more like a member of the RVT's then a main protagonist like Liko and Roy--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 10:25, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
:::She's similar to Chloe in Journeys: a notable recurring character who's not a main character. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:53, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
::::The official [https://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pocketmonster2023/images/chara/chara_correlation_large.jpg character relationship chart] still only lists Liko and Roy as the protagonists. [[User:Immblueversion|Immblueversion]] ([[User talk:Immblueversion|talk]]) 15:27, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

== Dot's Tinkatink ==
Why does Tinkatink lacks a main article? She was captured by Dot and throughout the episode she showed quite of a personality. [[User:Esquilo30|Esquilo30]] ([[User talk:Esquilo30|talk]]) 13:26, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
:Dot isn't considered a main character compared to Liko and Roy so her Pokemon don't get their own page, one notable episode isn't enough to warrant her own page at present.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 13:31, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
::Then why does her Quaxly has a main article then? Isn't that unfair? [[User:Esquilo30|Esquilo30]] ([[User talk:Esquilo30|talk]]) 13:04, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
:::Quaxly has been more involved in the series so is more notable at present.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 13:15, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
:::::A [[User:HygorBH/Dot's Tinkatink|page]] for Tinkatink is already being built by some users, as the anime showed in this week's episode and next, it's only a matter of time before the page is ready for mainspace.^ ^ --[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 13:53, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

== Dot as a Protagonist VS Main Character ==

This is sort of related to the discussion going on the [[HZ050]] page, where there seems to be confusion regarding Dot's status as a protagonist. The source listed on this page is relationship chart, where only Liko and Roy are listed as protagonists (主人公), while Dot does not have any sort of label. Where I think the confusion is stemming from, comes from whether a character is a protagonist vs a main character, because they are not mutually exclusive. As far as I can tell, the only anime characters called protagonists by Japanese sources are Ash, Dawn, Goh (these two are listed alongside Ash in the opening narration in their respective series), Liko, and Roy. Chloe not being listed as a main character also comes from this exclusion, however, I have never seen any sort of doubting as to whether or not Brock is a considered one during the Diamond and Pearl portion of the anime. Going off of that, I have also not found a source as to whether or not characters like Misty or Serena are called protagonists, yet they are still considered main characters. What I am getting at is, why are we using instances of the word protagonist to exclude some characters (Chloe, Dot), when other characters similarly aren't called protagonists (Brock, Misty, etc.). 

I think a better source to distinguish whether or not a character is considered specifically a main character, should be the order they are listed in the credits, namely characters regularly listed on the first page of the ending credits in the Japanese endings. This would include all the characters we currently have listed (Ash, all his friends, Liko, and Roy), Jessie, James, Meowth, Wobufett, Kukui, Samson Oak, Chloe, and Dot. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 21:55, 25 July 2024 (UTC)