Talk:Jolteon (Pokémon)

Perhaps it is worth mentioning in the trivia section that, for Generation I, Jolteon was the only Pokémon who could inflict substantial super-effective damage on a pure Psychic-type while not being weak to the Psychic type itself? This comes from its ability to use Pin Missile. -Timothy

There was Beedrill and Twin Needle. tc26 13:21, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Given that only it and Beedrill could learn it, though... really the point is that Psychic was far too powerful in Gen I. But if you want to mention it (also take care to note how little damage Pin Missile does even when all five hit) go right ahead. And learn to use tildes correctly! Also, TC, Beedrill was weak to Psychic. TTEchidna 13:22, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I forgot about the its other type. tc26 13:23, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

You know, Jolteon and Zapdos share almost similar Japanese names. Just thought I'd point that out. User:DarkGiratina 18:19, 31 January, 2009 (UTC)

Ambiguous Sentence

In Generations I and II, if Skill Swap or Gastro Acid is used, or if the opponent has Mold Breaker, the effectiveness of Electric-type moves is ½×.

That sentence is certainly ambiguous. I know Jolteon is not immune to Elec. type attack both in Gen. I and II (when there's no abilities at all) and when Skill Swap or Gastro Acid is used or the opponent has Mold Breaker (when the effect of its ability is canceled). But one might think BOTH conditions must be satisfied... - unsigned comment from Bbbbbbbbba (talk • contribs)

The comma is used to list things, with the "or" at the start of the third alternative showing that they are alternative cases. If more than one condition needed to be satisfied then either the "or" would need to be replaced by "and" (if all three needed to be satisfied), an "and" would need to be inserted into the sentence somewhere (If just two), or at least one comma would need to be removed (if one and either of the other two). As it is the sentence is both gramatically correct and unambiguous. Werdnae (talk) 08:42, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

But the first condition reads "In...", and I think that can be a modifier that modifies the whole sentence. If it begins with "If it's in..." then certainly there's nothing ambiguous. Also, I just found out how to sign my comments:) --Bbbbbbbbba 10:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

It means if you're playing Gen I/II or if SS/GA is used or if MB is in effect then Jolteon takes 1/12 damage. The reason that 0 damage is taken is due to the ability, and these situations result in no ability. The best way to do this is to have semicolons separating the points in the list, not commas. I'll make the change. —darklordtrom 10:40, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

But why is "In generations I and II" even there? The table starts off with, "Under normal battle conditions in Generation V, this Pokémon is..." Generations 1 and 2 are obviously not going to be happening under normal (or any) battle conditions in Generation 5! BP 04:27, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Type Effectivness

Electric types should not be 0X damage, because Jolteon actually gains health from electric types. So, therefore, it should be -1X or something. JetanHertz13 00:00, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

STAB?

I don't understand how Pin Missile gets STAB Nineball 22:07, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

It shouldn't. Thanks for noticing ;) --ZestyCactus 22:13, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Ah, that was from someone yesterday who was convinced Jolteon is a Bug-Type. I reverted most things, but I guess I missed that bit. Whoops. ~~ Scyther Be Awesome! _{Need something?} 23:14, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

B/W Sprite

I added a trivia bullet noting the change of color of Jolteon's eyes and ears from black to purple. Perhaps I should have asked first. I hope it's okay. --IWannaBeTheVeryBest 22:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

I guess it wasn't, even though plenty of other Pokémon's trivia mention their visual changes... --IWannaBeTheVeryBest 22:14, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Visual changes are only notable if they are design changes. Colour changes are normally due to pallette limitations in the earlier games rather than a design change, and as such usually aren't notable. Werdnae (talk) 02:59, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

There are plenty of Pokémon whose off-colored sprites are mentioned in Trivia. For example, Spinarak. And don't point out that it was designed to look like nighttime. No other Gen II night Pokémon does this. Either we allow all the mentions of differences, or we allow none.- unsigned comment from IWannaBeTheVeryBest (talk • contribs)