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== is this trivia worthy ==
== is this trivia worthy ==


is it trivia worthy  to point out the final forms of all her revealed Pokemon begin their names with S? i.e Sawsbuck Stoutland and Samurott --[[User:Pokemonboy3000|Pokemonboy3000]] 20:01, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
is it trivia worthy  to point out the final forms of all her revealed Pokemon begin their names with S? i.e Sawsbuck Stoutland and Samurott --[[User:Pokemonboy3000|Pokemonboy3000]] 20:01, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
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--[[User:BurgundyUnicorn|BurgundyUnicorn]] 04:49, 12 February 2012 (UTC)BurgundyUnicorn
--[[User:BurgundyUnicorn|BurgundyUnicorn]] 04:49, 12 February 2012 (UTC)BurgundyUnicorn


I'm going to try to shorten it/edit it, that alright?
I'm going to try to shorten it/edit it, that alright? {{unsigned|BurgundyUnicorn}}


== Burgundy "Character" ==
== Burgundy "Character" ==
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If you don't like it, I'll just edit the bad parts. {{unsigned|BurgundyUnicorn}}
If you don't like it, I'll just edit the bad parts. {{unsigned|BurgundyUnicorn}}


Feel free to comment, Jo. I'd love your advice.
Feel free to comment, Jo. I'd love your advice. {{unsigned|BurgundyUnicorn}}


== Jo the Marten ==
== Jo the Marten ==
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Why? {{unsigned|BurgundyUnicorn}}
Why? {{unsigned|BurgundyUnicorn}}
:It can make things complicated/confusing if you think about it for a second. <span style="font-family:Cracked; font-size:125%">[[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|<span style="color:#303030;">-tc</span>]][[User:Tc26|<span style="color:#e03828;">²₆</span>]][[User talk:Tc26|<span style="color:#303030;">tc</span>]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|<span style="color:#e03828;">26-</span>]]</span> 05:31, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
:It can make things complicated/confusing if you think about it for a second. <span style="font-family:Cracked; font-size:125%">[[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|<span style="color:#303030;">-tc</span>]][[User:Tc26|<span style="color:#e03828;">²₆</span>]][[User talk:Tc26|<span style="color:#303030;">tc</span>]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|<span style="color:#e03828;">26-</span>]]</span> 05:31, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
==Dewott==
Now, since Dewott has appeared in Donamite, does it deserves it's own page?--[[User:Omojuzeforever|Omojuzeforever]] 13:40, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
:It has only appeared twice, and both times all it did was battle (and lose). I say no, not yet. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 23:36, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
I think it should get it's own page, it's box is starting to get a little big.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 06:18, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
:No. It needs to do more than just battle and, like Jo said, it only has appeared in two episodes. Far from being notable.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 06:24, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
:Yeah, I was thinking Dewott should have a page. [[User:Pressthebutton|Pressthebutton]] 16:05, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
I know it's just battled, but so has Conkeldurr. Yes he appeared in three and like a half episodes. But other then evolving(which Dewott has too), he hasn't done anything of note either. The only time he appeared outside of battle was at the start of the Donamite for like a minute.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 06:32, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
:Conkeldurr's battle against Oshawott as a Timburr revealed a fault in Oshawott's Aqua Jet, a plot impact. Dewott hasn't a had an impact yet.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 06:45, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Um the whole basis of Burgundy's and Dento's rivalry started with Dewott(Mijumaru) remember?? Without that loss there would be no rivalry.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 06:49, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
:In my opinion, Dewott just battled Cilan and lost. Cilan then evaluated it and Burgundy got mad. In short, Burgundy started the rivalry herself not Dewott.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#424B50">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#848A8D">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#E3CED0">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#EDDFE0">ire</span>]] 06:58, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Yes but she got mad at the words Dento said about Dewott, again, no Dewott, no rivalry. Also Timburr had nothing to do with that devolopement, it was all Trip. As you said, Timburr just battled and lost, same as Dewott, you can't just use that for one pokemon and not the other.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 07:04, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
:Conkeldurr still did more than Dewott. Heck, it has more appearances than Servine now. Appeared in five episodes while Dewott appeared in three, one at the very end of the episode. Not to mention the status of the characters. Trip appears more often than Burgundy and is also Ash's first rival if the region. It be wiser to wait to see if Burgundy appears more outside of the arc episodes, discounting the debut appearance, and use Dewott in said episodes. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 07:21, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
== Antagonistic rival ==
Isn't Burgundy considered more of an antagonistic rival? Here is why (excluding her constant losses onscreen), most of her actions were related to {{TRT}} prior to {{series|Best Wishes}} such as the blasting off that happened in her recent appearance and getting revenge on a main character (in this case, Cilan, instead of Ash). She even had a disguise on to get into a mansion and would do the same bad things that lead to her defeat. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 05:19, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
:No way! Even Krokorok blasted off a few times, but now he's part of Ash's team. Burgundy has never done anything even remotely nefarious. She will whine, cry, scream all she likes, but she's never tried to sabotage anything. She just has a habit of biting off more than she can chew, and a case of narcissism. She wants to be included among the big-dogs, but she can't accept that she's still a rookie. So no, I don't consider Burgundy to be an antagonist by any means. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 05:35, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
::Oh well. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 14:31, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
== Losing Streak ==
Hi; i was just wondering if it was suitable trivia to mention (probably as a branch to the Tournament Trivia) that Burgundy is the only rival so far not seen winning a battle? Trip and Stephan won (or are going to win) tournaments, Georgia beat Iris on her debut and Bianca beat Georgia in the Clubsplosion. Is it good trivia or just useless? [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] ([[User talk:Azure42|talk]]) 18:03, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
== Trivia ==
Is it trivia worth to state that, Burgundy's hair is similar to that off Illumise?LeafeonEspeon 01:36, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
:No. That's nothing more than an opinion. She doesn't even have one. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 01:49, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
== Just one small thing ==
The second trivia point states that, "She is the ''first'' rival to be defeated by Ash and both of his traveling companions while in a region." However, isn't she the ''only'' one? If that's the case, we could just say ''only'' and leave it at that until the same happens to another rival. [[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]][[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:blue">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]][[Special:Contributions/GamerGeek|<span style="color:aqua">☆</span>]] 03:28, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 03:28, 19 November 2012

I think the spelling "Burgandy" should be redirected here. I keep thinking it's spelled that way. Anyone agree? Djulienr 02:16, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Nope. The wine, color, and everything else is spelled "Burgundy". "Burgandy" isn't a word at all. So it looks like you'll just have to get use to spelling it correctly. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 02:27, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

is this trivia worthy

is it trivia worthy to point out the final forms of all her revealed Pokemon begin their names with S? i.e Sawsbuck Stoutland and Samurott --Pokemonboy3000 20:01, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

I don't think so:
  1. S is the most common first letter out of all Pokémon names.
  2. It is a coincidence since they are English names.
  3. Burgundy still has Dewott, which makes it even less notable.--Den Zen 20:11, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Burgundy "History"

The Burgundy biography is a re-writing of every episode she's been in. There are already pages that have been made that cover both of these episodes. Is it ok for me to delete most of it and leave in only the important things? - unsigned comment from BurgundyUnicorn (talkcontribs)

No. It does already list the important things that pertain to Burgundy. Of course it lists every episode she's been in; she's only been in five episodes. When she gets a few more appearances, we might deteriorate some of the less-than-important info. But right now, it's fine. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 02:19, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

ALRIGHT, Miss Jo! I just don't see why we have to repeat ourselves. Pray tell, what is the point of including a link to BW019 if everything is already said on Burgundy's page? We can at the very least pull some things out that aren't needed. A hurrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

--BurgundyUnicorn 04:49, 12 February 2012 (UTC)BurgundyUnicorn

I'm going to try to shorten it/edit it, that alright? - unsigned comment from BurgundyUnicorn (talkcontribs)

Burgundy "Character"

Permission to change the "Character" section to:

Burgundy is a determined and spirited young trainer whose love for her Pokémon shines through during battles. Like Cilan and other Connoisseurs, she is flamboyant, and uses French words and phrases along with her regular English.

If you don't like it, I'll just edit the bad parts. - unsigned comment from BurgundyUnicorn (talkcontribs)

Feel free to comment, Jo. I'd love your advice. - unsigned comment from BurgundyUnicorn (talkcontribs)

Jo the Marten

I'm sorry, but why are you taking down my edits? Shall I report you? - unsigned comment from BurgundyUnicorn (talkcontribs)

I undid it because we need to keep sections in past tense. :) Simple as that. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 05:03, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Why? :) - unsigned comment from BurgundyUnicorn (talkcontribs)
Because we're writing about events that have already occurred. Also, please remember to sign your comments with four ~~~~. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 05:10, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

What about literary present?

Why? - unsigned comment from BurgundyUnicorn (talkcontribs)

It can make things complicated/confusing if you think about it for a second. -tc²₆tc26- 05:31, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Dewott

Now, since Dewott has appeared in Donamite, does it deserves it's own page?--Omojuzeforever 13:40, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

It has only appeared twice, and both times all it did was battle (and lose). I say no, not yet. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 23:36, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

I think it should get it's own page, it's box is starting to get a little big.RBK 06:18, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

No. It needs to do more than just battle and, like Jo said, it only has appeared in two episodes. Far from being notable.--ForceFire 06:24, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I was thinking Dewott should have a page. Pressthebutton 16:05, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I know it's just battled, but so has Conkeldurr. Yes he appeared in three and like a half episodes. But other then evolving(which Dewott has too), he hasn't done anything of note either. The only time he appeared outside of battle was at the start of the Donamite for like a minute.RBK 06:32, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Conkeldurr's battle against Oshawott as a Timburr revealed a fault in Oshawott's Aqua Jet, a plot impact. Dewott hasn't a had an impact yet.--ForceFire 06:45, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Um the whole basis of Burgundy's and Dento's rivalry started with Dewott(Mijumaru) remember?? Without that loss there would be no rivalry.RBK 06:49, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

In my opinion, Dewott just battled Cilan and lost. Cilan then evaluated it and Burgundy got mad. In short, Burgundy started the rivalry herself not Dewott.--ForceFire 06:58, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes but she got mad at the words Dento said about Dewott, again, no Dewott, no rivalry. Also Timburr had nothing to do with that devolopement, it was all Trip. As you said, Timburr just battled and lost, same as Dewott, you can't just use that for one pokemon and not the other.RBK 07:04, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Conkeldurr still did more than Dewott. Heck, it has more appearances than Servine now. Appeared in five episodes while Dewott appeared in three, one at the very end of the episode. Not to mention the status of the characters. Trip appears more often than Burgundy and is also Ash's first rival if the region. It be wiser to wait to see if Burgundy appears more outside of the arc episodes, discounting the debut appearance, and use Dewott in said episodes. --ケンジガール 07:21, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Antagonistic rival

Isn't Burgundy considered more of an antagonistic rival? Here is why (excluding her constant losses onscreen), most of her actions were related to Team Rocket prior to Best Wishes series such as the blasting off that happened in her recent appearance and getting revenge on a main character (in this case, Cilan, instead of Ash). She even had a disguise on to get into a mansion and would do the same bad things that lead to her defeat. PattyMan 05:19, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

No way! Even Krokorok blasted off a few times, but now he's part of Ash's team. Burgundy has never done anything even remotely nefarious. She will whine, cry, scream all she likes, but she's never tried to sabotage anything. She just has a habit of biting off more than she can chew, and a case of narcissism. She wants to be included among the big-dogs, but she can't accept that she's still a rookie. So no, I don't consider Burgundy to be an antagonist by any means. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 05:35, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Oh well. PattyMan 14:31, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Losing Streak

Hi; i was just wondering if it was suitable trivia to mention (probably as a branch to the Tournament Trivia) that Burgundy is the only rival so far not seen winning a battle? Trip and Stephan won (or are going to win) tournaments, Georgia beat Iris on her debut and Bianca beat Georgia in the Clubsplosion. Is it good trivia or just useless? Azure/ChromeVoid42 (talk) 18:03, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Trivia

Is it trivia worth to state that, Burgundy's hair is similar to that off Illumise?LeafeonEspeon 01:36, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

No. That's nothing more than an opinion. She doesn't even have one. Ataro (talk) 01:49, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Just one small thing

The second trivia point states that, "She is the first rival to be defeated by Ash and both of his traveling companions while in a region." However, isn't she the only one? If that's the case, we could just say only and leave it at that until the same happens to another rival. GamerGeek 03:28, 19 November 2012 (UTC)