Talk:Damage

Does the Damage formula below account for critical hits? I don't see any area in it which does, would it be worth noting it?

Nothinhappened 22:03, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

It's noted in the damage modification section. A CH does 2x damage, after the formula has been applied. —darklordtrom 01:40, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

held Item?

It isn't that clear the part that says that some held Items and Berries increase the damage inflicted in other Pokémon! I did understand the formula at the bottom of the page, but there isn't any clear explanation about it. Would someone, please? Exactly where/when would the "extra 20%" bonus of NeverMeltIce apply? YukitoOoO 22:09, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Move the formula to Modification?

It seems like a good thing to do, because a lot of the stuff here is repeated anyway, and most of what affects the formulas is in the Modification section anyway. Ztobor 03:55, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Mild contridiction in a very specific criteria

--Noltron200 17:28, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Noltron200

In this page, it says this "Critical is 2 for a critical hit, 1 otherwise. For Pokémon with Sniper, it is 3 for a critical hit. " in the series of bullet notes.

In the description of Sniper, in the Sniper(ability) page, it says this "Sniper multiplies the base power of an attack 1.5× during a critical hit. "

Becuase the damage equation goes " ...×base + 2)×Modifier ", the first source would multiply the +2 by two, meanwhile the second source would not, becuase it multiplies the move's base attack, and than is added by two.

Merely 2 points difference, but its something to consider.

Double/Triple Battle?

In the other section of the formula, it states "other counts for things like held items, Abilities, field advantages, and whether the battle is a Double Battle or Triple Battle or not." What effect does being a double or triple battle have on damage? I understand targeting differences, but not damage. Can someone help me with this? (Arcalargo (talk) 15:30, 7 December 2014 (UTC))

Some moves, such as Flame Burst, which affect non-targeted Pokémon with indirect damage. There are also abilities such as Friend Guard that affect damage taken by allies. While it's not the double or triple battle itself that has any effect on damage, there are factors that only apply outside of single battles. --GuyPerfect (talk) 15:39, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

So to confirm, there isn't really anything about the double or triple battle itself. Its just abilities(which are already listed) that effect damage, correct? - unsigned comment from Arcalargo (talk • contribs)

I would imagine the damage part refers to the damage penalty that moves like Surf incur. Tiddlywinks (talk) 18:32, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Derp, I missed that when I was reviewing damage, thank you(Arcalargo (talk) 18:34, 7 December 2014 (UTC))