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I don't really see the point of this trivia- Shedinja can't learn Extreme Risk? [[User:Juzey|<span style="color:purple">Juzey</span>]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|<span style="color:purple">!!</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Juzey|<span style="color:orange">Talk</span>]])''</small> 13:31, 27 February 2011 (UTC) | I don't really see the point of this trivia- Shedinja can't learn Extreme Risk? [[User:Juzey|<span style="color:purple">Juzey</span>]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|<span style="color:purple">!!</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Juzey|<span style="color:orange">Talk</span>]])''</small> 13:31, 27 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
:Yes it can. Nincada can learn it through breeding, and when it evolves, you'll get a Shedinja with Extreme Risk. [[User:TyraniThrone|<span style="color:green">Tyrani</span>]][[User talk:TyraniThrone|<span style="color:brown">Throne</span>]] 13:33, 27 February 2011 (UTC) | :Yes it can. Nincada can learn it through breeding, and when it evolves, you'll get a Shedinja with Extreme Risk. [[User:TyraniThrone|<span style="color:green">Tyrani</span>]][[User talk:TyraniThrone|<span style="color:brown">Throne</span>]] 13:33, 27 February 2011 (UTC) | ||
::Oops, didn't see that. I need to pay more attention to the article before questioning it!! [[User:Juzey|<span style="color:purple">Juzey</span>]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|<span style="color:purple">!!</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Juzey|<span style="color:orange">Talk</span>]])''</small> 13:47, 27 February 2011 (UTC) | |||
It is SOOO luck Blissey doesn't know this. Otherwise if someone made a quick Blissey, and had this move, it would one-shot every enemy [[User:Chrisirhc|Chrisirhc]] 20:25, 12 March 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Effect? == | |||
I think I stumbled on the wording of the move's effect, reading "lost HP" in the sense of (max HP - current HP) instead of (current HP). This was probably just me, but a tweak to the phrasing can't hurt. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]] 07:07, 13 April 2011 (UTC)'' | |||
==Sturdy== | |||
Sturdy has no special effect on Final Gambit so why does Sturdy get mentioned here, but not on every other move's article. [[User:Pikiwyn|<font color="#d0000d" face="chiller">'''Pikiwyn'''</font>]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt><sup>'''''<font color="black">talk</font>'''''</sup></tt>]] 18:48, 16 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
:While moves do not normally faint a Pokémon with Sturdy, a move that has a potential effect of a OHKO should be noted that it doesn't affect a Pokémon with Sturdy. --[[User:PsychicRider|<span style="color:#78C850;">'''P S Y'''</span>]][[User talk:PsychicRider|<sub style="color:#F85888;">'''ライダー'''</sub>]]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|<span style="color:#C4E673;">'''☮'''</span>]]'' 19:43, 17 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
::I don't really agree, but okay. [[User:Pikiwyn|<font color="#d0000d" face="chiller">'''Pikiwyn'''</font>]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt><sup>'''''<font color="black">talk</font>'''''</sup></tt>]] 09:49, 18 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
:::I'm pretty sure the sentence is referring to the Pokemon USING Final Gambit having the ability Sturdy, which of course is worth mentioning. If this isn't the case, I think it needs rewording. And if it is the case, does the move completely fail or will the user go down to 1HP (and do damage equivalent to that loss)? That might need clarification. [[User:Nytik|Nytik]] 18:40, 18 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
The sentence does not explain if the user or target of Final Gambit is meant. And the result is great confusion... But it is very simple: Final Gambit is an offensive attack which causes the user to faint. So Sturdy of the target will work, Sturdy of the user will not. --- Pokémon [[User:Pokémon|<sub>Questions?</sub>]] -- 13:11, 25 February 2012 (UTC) | |||
== info == | |||
How does it work? Is it based on the actual number of HP (i.e. 300 HP) or the percentage of the HP that the Pokémon has when using this move (i.e. 100% of its HP will deal more damage, than a Pokémon with 75%, however Pokémon with different number of HP will do the same damage if they are both at 100%) ? --[[User:SamuStar|SamuStar]] 09:43, 6 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
:Actually, it's the former. If a Pokémon has 145 HP left (regardless of whether this is the maximum or not), using Final Gambit will knock out the user and inflict 145 HP of damage on the target. Hope I helped! Cheers, [[User:Haxorus|<span style="color:#968428">'''Hax'''</span>]][[User talk:Haxorus|<span style="color:#4C4646">'''or'''</span>]][[Special:MyContributions|<span style="color:#800517">'''us'''</span>]] 07:19, 3 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Contact == | |||
I have information that this move has its contact flag set in Generation V only. Even if that's the case: Does it matter? Can you test it? (Can you test it as of Gen VII?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:35, 17 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
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Shedinja trivia
I don't really see the point of this trivia- Shedinja can't learn Extreme Risk? Juzey!! (Talk) 13:31, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
- Yes it can. Nincada can learn it through breeding, and when it evolves, you'll get a Shedinja with Extreme Risk. TyraniThrone 13:33, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
It is SOOO luck Blissey doesn't know this. Otherwise if someone made a quick Blissey, and had this move, it would one-shot every enemy Chrisirhc 20:25, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Effect?
I think I stumbled on the wording of the move's effect, reading "lost HP" in the sense of (max HP - current HP) instead of (current HP). This was probably just me, but a tweak to the phrasing can't hurt. --Stratelier 07:07, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Sturdy
Sturdy has no special effect on Final Gambit so why does Sturdy get mentioned here, but not on every other move's article. Pikiwyn talk 18:48, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
- While moves do not normally faint a Pokémon with Sturdy, a move that has a potential effect of a OHKO should be noted that it doesn't affect a Pokémon with Sturdy. --P S Yライダー☮ 19:43, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- I don't really agree, but okay. Pikiwyn talk 09:49, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure the sentence is referring to the Pokemon USING Final Gambit having the ability Sturdy, which of course is worth mentioning. If this isn't the case, I think it needs rewording. And if it is the case, does the move completely fail or will the user go down to 1HP (and do damage equivalent to that loss)? That might need clarification. Nytik 18:40, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- I don't really agree, but okay. Pikiwyn talk 09:49, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
The sentence does not explain if the user or target of Final Gambit is meant. And the result is great confusion... But it is very simple: Final Gambit is an offensive attack which causes the user to faint. So Sturdy of the target will work, Sturdy of the user will not. --- Pokémon Questions? -- 13:11, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
info
How does it work? Is it based on the actual number of HP (i.e. 300 HP) or the percentage of the HP that the Pokémon has when using this move (i.e. 100% of its HP will deal more damage, than a Pokémon with 75%, however Pokémon with different number of HP will do the same damage if they are both at 100%) ? --SamuStar 09:43, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, it's the former. If a Pokémon has 145 HP left (regardless of whether this is the maximum or not), using Final Gambit will knock out the user and inflict 145 HP of damage on the target. Hope I helped! Cheers, Haxorus 07:19, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
Contact
I have information that this move has its contact flag set in Generation V only. Even if that's the case: Does it matter? Can you test it? (Can you test it as of Gen VII?) Nescientist (talk) 10:35, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
