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:Please feel free to edit the section yourself :) —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 06:34, 21 June 2011 (UTC) | :Please feel free to edit the section yourself :) —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 06:34, 21 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
:: while on the subject of generation V, what is the ??? Category for, and why doesn't this article say anything about it? Is there a way to add phrases to it?[[User:Zorakirby|Zorakirby]] 06:54, 5 June 2012 (UTC) | :: while on the subject of generation V, what is the ??? Category for, and why doesn't this article say anything about it? Is there a way to add phrases to it?[[User:Zorakirby|Zorakirby]] 06:54, 5 June 2012 (UTC) | ||
== List of words? == | |||
Does anyone have a list of words? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 19:51, 17 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Split == | |||
I think the gigantic lists of words would be much easier to navigate if they were their own separate pages, rather than collapsed gigantic lists on this page. I'm unsure whether it would be better to split the sentences to separate pages or the same page as the words for that Generation. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 08:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, splitting would be a good idea. This long page is hard to navigate properly. I think good names would be: | |||
:* [[Easy chat system (Generation II)]] | |||
:* [[Easy chat system (Generation III)]] | |||
:* [[Easy chat system (Generation IV)]] | |||
:* [[Easy chat system (Generation V)]] | |||
:It would probably be OK to keep words and sentences for each generation together. Maybe also use a different layout with proper headings for each group (those titles such as "Greetings" and "People"). --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 10:26, 20 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
::I don't particularly like those titles, because I don't think those pages should be content pages that describe the function of the easy chat system in each generation—rather, I think that kind of information should remain on this page. Instead, I think explicitly titling them "List of easy chat system words in Generation X" or "List of easy chat system words and sentences in Generation X" makes it much clearer that those pages should only be words and sentences, not descriptions of the system as a whole. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:30, 20 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::I see what you mean, but "List of easy chat system words in Generation X" looks pretty long. It's a bit hard to type it completely, so I assume most people will either have to search for it or use a separate link from other articles. | |||
:::In each gen, the ECS works in different ways, and in different places. The full explanation about what the ECS does in each gen is a very short text, so I think it would be helpful to add it together with the list of words. If we keep the list and the explanation in separate articles, we are asking people to visit two articles to get the full picture for a given generation. | |||
:::If the ECS worked basically the same way in all generations (like the basic {{i|Poké Ball}}), then it would probably be nice to have a simple ECS article and explain everything there. | |||
:::If the ECS needed a very long text to explain all the functions (like the [[Pokédex]]), then it would probably be nice to keep it in a single ECS article as well. | |||
:::But in this case, I don't think that splitting the explanation and list for each generations helps a lot. I would still suggest using "Easy chat system (Generation V)" if it's alright. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 11:42, 20 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::I'm with SnorlaxMonster here. I believe this page should have all the technical details and stuff, having separate headers for separate generations is no problem imo. (That's how articles like [[Mystery Gift]] work too.) With Daniel's proposal, I believe this very page (with the title most would type in) would merely be a disambiguation-style collection of articles!? And that's not preferable imo. | |||
::::Also, it is my understanding that "List of" type of articles aren't typically typed in into the search bar (by casual readers) anyway. | |||
::::I think I'd actually slightly prefer one page "List of easy chat words" (with generation headers) over the by generation version of that (and/but I also believe the current page is fine). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:54, 20 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::::Due to the sheer length of the lists, I think a separate page for each generation would be ideal. Mixing generations within a single page would mean you would have to scroll a very long way to figure out which generation you're even looking at (if you use Ctrl+F to find a particular word, for example). | |||
:::::The point is only to split the gigantic lists of words/sentences but leave the discussion of how the feature works on this page. You don't need to full list of words to understand the mechanics behind them (which is why I imagine most users would just leave them collapsed on this page, or possibly even not notice they're even there). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 15:09, 20 March 2021 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 15:09, 20 March 2021
Generation V Easy Chat
Generation V's typing system is basically the same general concept as Generation IV's. Why not just say so and state the minute differences? Puppy of Doom and Destruction 14:50, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
- Please feel free to edit the section yourself :) —darklordtrom 06:34, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
- while on the subject of generation V, what is the ??? Category for, and why doesn't this article say anything about it? Is there a way to add phrases to it?Zorakirby 06:54, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
List of words?
Does anyone have a list of words? --Abcboy (talk) 19:51, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
Split
I think the gigantic lists of words would be much easier to navigate if they were their own separate pages, rather than collapsed gigantic lists on this page. I'm unsure whether it would be better to split the sentences to separate pages or the same page as the words for that Generation. --SnorlaxMonster 08:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, splitting would be a good idea. This long page is hard to navigate properly. I think good names would be:
- It would probably be OK to keep words and sentences for each generation together. Maybe also use a different layout with proper headings for each group (those titles such as "Greetings" and "People"). --Daniel Carrero (talk) 10:26, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- I don't particularly like those titles, because I don't think those pages should be content pages that describe the function of the easy chat system in each generation—rather, I think that kind of information should remain on this page. Instead, I think explicitly titling them "List of easy chat system words in Generation X" or "List of easy chat system words and sentences in Generation X" makes it much clearer that those pages should only be words and sentences, not descriptions of the system as a whole. --SnorlaxMonster 10:30, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- I see what you mean, but "List of easy chat system words in Generation X" looks pretty long. It's a bit hard to type it completely, so I assume most people will either have to search for it or use a separate link from other articles.
- In each gen, the ECS works in different ways, and in different places. The full explanation about what the ECS does in each gen is a very short text, so I think it would be helpful to add it together with the list of words. If we keep the list and the explanation in separate articles, we are asking people to visit two articles to get the full picture for a given generation.
- If the ECS worked basically the same way in all generations (like the basic Poké Ball), then it would probably be nice to have a simple ECS article and explain everything there.
- If the ECS needed a very long text to explain all the functions (like the Pokédex), then it would probably be nice to keep it in a single ECS article as well.
- But in this case, I don't think that splitting the explanation and list for each generations helps a lot. I would still suggest using "Easy chat system (Generation V)" if it's alright. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 11:42, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm with SnorlaxMonster here. I believe this page should have all the technical details and stuff, having separate headers for separate generations is no problem imo. (That's how articles like Mystery Gift work too.) With Daniel's proposal, I believe this very page (with the title most would type in) would merely be a disambiguation-style collection of articles!? And that's not preferable imo.
- Also, it is my understanding that "List of" type of articles aren't typically typed in into the search bar (by casual readers) anyway.
- I think I'd actually slightly prefer one page "List of easy chat words" (with generation headers) over the by generation version of that (and/but I also believe the current page is fine). Nescientist (talk) 12:54, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Due to the sheer length of the lists, I think a separate page for each generation would be ideal. Mixing generations within a single page would mean you would have to scroll a very long way to figure out which generation you're even looking at (if you use Ctrl+F to find a particular word, for example).
- The point is only to split the gigantic lists of words/sentences but leave the discussion of how the feature works on this page. You don't need to full list of words to understand the mechanics behind them (which is why I imagine most users would just leave them collapsed on this page, or possibly even not notice they're even there). --SnorlaxMonster 15:09, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- I don't particularly like those titles, because I don't think those pages should be content pages that describe the function of the easy chat system in each generation—rather, I think that kind of information should remain on this page. Instead, I think explicitly titling them "List of easy chat system words in Generation X" or "List of easy chat system words and sentences in Generation X" makes it much clearer that those pages should only be words and sentences, not descriptions of the system as a whole. --SnorlaxMonster 10:30, 20 March 2021 (UTC)