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I know it's a little bit obvious but maybe we should use this name like we did with Reparudasu/Leopardas. --[[User:Shining Latios|Shining Latios]] 02:55, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
I know it's a little bit obvious but maybe we should use this name like we did with Reparudasu/Leopardas. --[[User:Shining Latios|Shining Latios]] 02:55, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
: Isn't Leopardas the official romanization? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:06, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
: Isn't Leopardas the official romanization? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:06, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
:: *facepalm* Thanks for the confirmation but I wonder now why we have Meloetta and Genesect when  their names (and existence) have not been revealed to public.--[[User:Shining Latios|Shining Latios]] 03:11, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
::: the same way we knew Tsutarja's official romanization name before it was put on products, the official japanese site took the names and registered them [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:18, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
:::: And why would it be Vaivanila? That's just as awkward. Wouldn't it look better as Vivanilla? --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 06:07, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
::::: I guess because it's the way the Kana goes? Ba-i-ba-ni-ra > Va-i-va-ni-la?
::::::It is obviously {{wp|Number prefix|'''Bi'''}}vanilla.--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#C11B17">でんのう</font>]] <font color="#347C2C">☢</font>  [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#151B8D">'''Z'''えんし</font>]] 10:11, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Or Babanana? *awkward crummy joke silence*--[[User talk:444Zekrom|<span style="color:brown">444</span>]][[User:444Zekrom|<span style="color:black">Z</span>]][[Zekrom|<span style="color:blue">ekrom</span>]] 10:47, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::It could possibly be Baivanilla, where 倍''bai'' is a Japanese word for 'double', for example in 倍速''baisoku'', 'double-speed'. Either way they're all guesses I guess. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 08:42, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
==Egg Moves==
There are a number of egg moves for Baibanira which say they need to be chain-bred from another Pokémon from its evolution family. Is this because nothing else from the Mineral egg group can have these moves? And would this even count as chain-breeding in that case? It's quite confusing. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 17:54, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
: I don´t know if it is considered chain breeding, but i think the moves it has to breed from itself are from the dream world.--[[User:Jespoke|Jespoke]] 21:12, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
:: To be honest, saying they're from chain breeding is misleading. They are not. Not exactly. They require you to breed Baibanira with a Pokemon that learned the move from a Generation IV game, like Glalie. [[User:RiverShock|RiverShock]] 15:35, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
==Trivia==
Is it worth noting that it has a smiley-face-like pattern on its back? &rarr;'''[[User:Axxonn|<span style="color:#000000">&Alpha;&Chi;&Chi;&Omicron;&Nu;&Nu;</span>]][[User talk:Axxonn|<span style="color:#A64B19"><sub>fi</sub></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|<span style="color:#A64B19"><sub>re</sub></span>]]''' 23:59, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
:It's already mentioned in the article near the beginning. [[User:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">--Pokemaster</span>]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|<span style="color:Blue;">97</span>]] 00:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
::Right. &rarr;'''[[User:Axxonn|<span style="color:#000000">&Alpha;&Chi;&Chi;&Omicron;&Nu;&Nu;</span>]][[User talk:Axxonn|<span style="color:#A64B19"><sub>fi</sub></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|<span style="color:#A64B19"><sub>re</sub></span>]]''' 00:02, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Is it worth noting that it's the only 3-stage pure ice type pokemon? {{unsigned|Myzou}}
:No. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:51, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
::Why not? '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#00693E">Toon Ganondorf</span> ]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#D4AF37">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:#D4AF37">c)</span>]]''' 12:04, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
:::"Three-stage" "pure" "Ice-type". The trivia is overly specific. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:17, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Vanilluxe is tied with Lapras for the highest base stat total of all non-legendary Ice-type Pokémon. - TIED, non-legendary, Ice-type. - Yet this isn't overly specific? Vanilluxe being the ONLY 3-stage pure-ice is notable. If it was a mixed type, it wouldn't be. I don't see how you can say it's not notable, but being TIED for the highest base stat total of NON LEGENDARY ICE TYPES is. If that's the case, you might as well remove all the mentions of highest base stats for a specific type for NON LEGENDARYs, as it's overly specific. [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] 14:02, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::Just throwing in my two cents here. Aside from being overly-specific, I don't think the whole "three-stage" thing is notable. There are very few pure Ice-type Pokémon, and three is typical of an evolutionary line. Being the only three-stage line out of four pure Ice-type lines is . . . just not worth mentioning. As a side note, I'm not at all against removing base stat trivia . . . though I don't think this is the place for that type of discussion. [[User:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#9F00C5">Crystal</span>]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|<span style="color:#FF00FF">Talian</span>]] 14:23, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
== Anime debut ==
Vanilluxe will debut in BW081: [http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org2880694.jpg] {{unsigned|Gilgamesh37}}
== A question about a trivia. ==
How is James Turner any more notable than other people who created Pokémon? I don't get it.
Most of the rest of the pages don't have a trivia that states who created that certain Pokémon. I would remove this trivia, but I wanna discuss it first since I don't like being in revert wars. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 14:05, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
:Because he's the only one who isn't Japanese.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 14:25, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
== Stay Puft??? Pillsbury Doughboy??? ==
can someone find me an interview where [[James Turner]] actually said that he designed Vanilluxe after food mascots like Stay Puft and Pillsbury Doughboy? all i can find were [https://twitter.com/DrLavaYT/status/1207327425387888640 these] [https://twitter.com/DrLavaYT/status/1235222907871084544 Dr. Lava] [https://twitter.com/DrLavaYT/status/1346864766376001536 tweets], and he didn't cite any sources.
(edit: i forgot to sign) [[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 14:47, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
:update: i did more digging and found [https://twitter.com/DrLavaYT/status/1346879667404345350 this] tweet where Dr. Lava quotes a now deleted James Turner tweet. unfortunately, the original tweet doesn't seem to have been archived anywhere; i tried searching the full quote on Google and nothing came up. (also note that the quote didn't mention anything about Pillsbury doughboy, only Stay Puft.) [[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 18:36, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 18:37, 17 February 2022

Move to Vaivanila?

I know it's a little bit obvious but maybe we should use this name like we did with Reparudasu/Leopardas. --Shining Latios 02:55, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Isn't Leopardas the official romanization? Ataro 03:06, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
*facepalm* Thanks for the confirmation but I wonder now why we have Meloetta and Genesect when their names (and existence) have not been revealed to public.--Shining Latios 03:11, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
the same way we knew Tsutarja's official romanization name before it was put on products, the official japanese site took the names and registered them Ataro 03:18, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
And why would it be Vaivanila? That's just as awkward. Wouldn't it look better as Vivanilla? --ケンジガール 06:07, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
I guess because it's the way the Kana goes? Ba-i-ba-ni-ra > Va-i-va-ni-la?
It is obviously Bivanilla.--でんのう Zえんし 10:11, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
Or Babanana? *awkward crummy joke silence*--444Zekrom 10:47, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
It could possibly be Baivanilla, where 倍bai is a Japanese word for 'double', for example in 倍速baisoku, 'double-speed'. Either way they're all guesses I guess. Bluesun 08:42, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Egg Moves

There are a number of egg moves for Baibanira which say they need to be chain-bred from another Pokémon from its evolution family. Is this because nothing else from the Mineral egg group can have these moves? And would this even count as chain-breeding in that case? It's quite confusing. --AndyPKMN 17:54, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

I don´t know if it is considered chain breeding, but i think the moves it has to breed from itself are from the dream world.--Jespoke 21:12, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
To be honest, saying they're from chain breeding is misleading. They are not. Not exactly. They require you to breed Baibanira with a Pokemon that learned the move from a Generation IV game, like Glalie. RiverShock 15:35, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Trivia

Is it worth noting that it has a smiley-face-like pattern on its back? →ΑΧΧΟΝΝfire 23:59, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

It's already mentioned in the article near the beginning. --Pokemaster97 00:01, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
Right. →ΑΧΧΟΝΝfire 00:02, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Is it worth noting that it's the only 3-stage pure ice type pokemon? - unsigned comment from Myzou (talkcontribs)

No. --SnorlaxMonster 11:51, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Why not? Toon Ganondorf (t c) 12:04, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
"Three-stage" "pure" "Ice-type". The trivia is overly specific. --SnorlaxMonster 12:17, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Vanilluxe is tied with Lapras for the highest base stat total of all non-legendary Ice-type Pokémon. - TIED, non-legendary, Ice-type. - Yet this isn't overly specific? Vanilluxe being the ONLY 3-stage pure-ice is notable. If it was a mixed type, it wouldn't be. I don't see how you can say it's not notable, but being TIED for the highest base stat total of NON LEGENDARY ICE TYPES is. If that's the case, you might as well remove all the mentions of highest base stats for a specific type for NON LEGENDARYs, as it's overly specific. Myzou 14:02, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Just throwing in my two cents here. Aside from being overly-specific, I don't think the whole "three-stage" thing is notable. There are very few pure Ice-type Pokémon, and three is typical of an evolutionary line. Being the only three-stage line out of four pure Ice-type lines is . . . just not worth mentioning. As a side note, I'm not at all against removing base stat trivia . . . though I don't think this is the place for that type of discussion. Crystal Talian 14:23, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Anime debut

Vanilluxe will debut in BW081: [1] - unsigned comment from Gilgamesh37 (talkcontribs)

A question about a trivia.

How is James Turner any more notable than other people who created Pokémon? I don't get it.

Most of the rest of the pages don't have a trivia that states who created that certain Pokémon. I would remove this trivia, but I wanna discuss it first since I don't like being in revert wars. TheBlazikenMaster (talk) 14:05, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Because he's the only one who isn't Japanese.--Den Zen 14:25, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Stay Puft??? Pillsbury Doughboy???

can someone find me an interview where James Turner actually said that he designed Vanilluxe after food mascots like Stay Puft and Pillsbury Doughboy? all i can find were these Dr. Lava tweets, and he didn't cite any sources.

(edit: i forgot to sign) Anzasquiddles (talk) 14:47, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

update: i did more digging and found this tweet where Dr. Lava quotes a now deleted James Turner tweet. unfortunately, the original tweet doesn't seem to have been archived anywhere; i tried searching the full quote on Google and nothing came up. (also note that the quote didn't mention anything about Pillsbury doughboy, only Stay Puft.) Anzasquiddles (talk) 18:36, 17 February 2022 (UTC)