Talk:Anabel

Sprite resemblance?

Look at this, this is so much like Anabel. We should include this on the page. --1-Up 20:47, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

...not really. Sure, there's a possibility her design came from the female Psychic... but eh, I dunno. TTEchidna 20:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Leader of the Frontier Brains

I don't recall the game ever pointing out a leader amongst the Frontier Brains. Where exactly does it say it? For all I know, Brandon could be the leader just like in the anime. Each facility in the game is a domain to its own; it doesn't require having beaten the others. So how exactly is she the leader? Satosuke 03:06, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I honestly don't know. It might be due to the fact that the Battle Tower was there first, but I'm sure that there's an in-canon reference. We usually don't leave fanwank here unless we don't notice it, and given that several of the admins have edited this page, it'd be hard to miss. TTEchidna 04:23, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I'm pretty sure there must be an in-game reference too. I just wonder, since I don't recall ever reading that in the game, nor does the article mention where it got that reference. It makes me want to pull out my old Emerald and spend a couple hours searching for it, but not tonight. Satosuke 04:29, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

So where's the reference? Or we're supposed to just accept anything the admins say as official? - Spideym 14:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

She's their leader in the manga, but in-game I don't think it's been stated. And she definately isn't in the anime, that's Brandon. Reign 08:56, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Clothes

Her clothes look different every where she's portrayed, her artwork, sprites and anime clothes are all different. I'm putting that on the page.--DRAGONBEAST^X 10:20, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Espeon

Can`t Espeon read the air currents? so why did the blackout disturbed him?- unsigned comment from Ferreronis (talk • contribs)

Espeon isn't stated to be male. The blackout was more of a distraction for Anabel so Ash could break their focus, per se. WATERWarrior67 23:11, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Anabel's sex in one of the manga

In the Battle Frontier manga there's a rumor that she was changed into a boy. Is that true? I've seen screenshots, and she still seems female. Dia Sprite 06:06, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Alakazam's VA

In her debut episode, Anabel is first seen with an Alakazam. However, I think that there is a mistake regarding Alakazam's voice actor. Maddie Blaustein's voice is last heard in the AG series episode Pasta La Vista!, twenty-four episodes earlier. Unless this was recorded while she was still alive, I think that Alakazam's English voice actor should be changed. WATERWarrior67 23:16, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Emerald Universe

As her SM battle theme (which uses the same GBA trumpets despite there already being a revamped version), as well as her passing through a UB wormhole, heavily implies that she is from the universe of the original games, should it that be stated in the Trivia section? --Geektreecko (talk) 04:02, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

That's currently just speculation at this point. It's not even certain that the original games were in a separate universe. TechSkylander1518 (talk) 04:05, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

All of the old games' Battle Tree contenders use their original themes. Even Cynthia, who (like Anabel) has already had revamped versions of her theme in the past. So I wouldn't consider that to be evidence that SM's Anabel came from the original games' universe. A more compelling point might be that Looker says Anabel used to protect a tower (obviously implied to be the Battle Tower), which doesn't exist yet in ORAS... but we're not sure of the timeline between SM and ORAS, so it's fully possible that construction of ORAS's Battle Tower was completed before the events of Sun and Moon. Castformrain (talk) 00:52, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Actually, Blue, Red, Cynthia... all use updated versions of their original team, and I do believe that Looker mentoined Anabel sympathised with the UBs because they too were hurdled into another world, all of which does very strongly imply that Anabel came from "the original universe" mentoined by Zinnia in ORAS. Even so I will admit that this is all based on speculation and never outright stated, so it shouldn't make it into the trivia section. Lastly, the official timeline does in fact place ORAS at the same time as th original RSE, and SM take place two years after XY/B2W2.(talk) 18:18, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

She did also mention that battling in the Battle Tree made her feel nostalgic as well, which would only make sense if she was a Frontier Brain at the time she was caught in the Ultra Wormhole. All that aside, there is one concrete thing we can use. Looker mentioned Anabel was found ten years before the events of SM- if we can figure out exactly how much time elapsed between ORAS and SM, we should be able to deduce whether or not she came from the "original universe".--UB00 (talk) 02:43, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Page title

Since Anabel now appears in a context very much separate from the Battle Frontier, is it still appropriate to keep her Trainer class in the page title? (For that matter, is it appropriate to have the Trainer classes in any of the Frontier Brains' page titles? We don't use Trainer classes for virtually any other characters' page titles.) Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 05:43, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

I would personally say no, but who knows. The Great Butler (talk) 06:17, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

The overarching issue appears to be mentioned here. I agree that Anabel's page title (and by extension, any Frontier Brain's) should not unnecessarily include the Trainer class at all. Nescientist (talk) 11:38, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

None of the other Frontier Brains have been part of the games outside of the Frontier. Also I am sure that there have been ordinary trainers who share a name with a Frontier Brain. Wouldn't keeping the Trainer Class in the name help distinguish the character? RedTheGuy (talk) 02:18, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

The thing is that we can distinguish them just as easily with a parenthetical, such as Anabel (Battle Frontier). That's what we do with virtually all other pages on this wiki... as far as I know, it's just the Frontier Brains and a tiny handful of other isolated cases that use Trainer classes to disambiguate instead of parentheticals. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 15:21, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm ok with Nescientist and Pumpkinking0192's proposals.--Mr. Guye (talk) 01:53, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

There isn't another notable Anabel. Everyone who types "Anabel" is expected to be looking for this one, and that's part of why its title should be that. For example, we also have Joey (i.e., neither "Youngster Joey" nor "Joey (Youngster)"), although it is even mentioned at his article that there are many more (unnotable) Joeys. If another (equally) notable Joey/Anabel/whoever pops up, the article can still be moved. Nescientist (talk) 15:52, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

I wouldn't really have an opinion, but the fact that Joey, if anything a less notable character who has always appeared under the same title, has a page just called Joey, tells me that Anabel should be moved. --Celadonkey 17:09, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

I support a hypothetical move. Anabel has now established herself in a role that is completely outside the Battle Frontier. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 03:04, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Can we call this one concluded? The Great Butler (talk) 20:35, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Not until a staff ruling is made, no --Celadonkey 14:48, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Well, yeah, that's pretty much what I'm asking for here. The Great Butler (talk) 06:43, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

I think it honestly depends on Anabel's potential role in future games. If she's back on the Battle Frontier when new games come out, then no, the page should not be moved. If new games still have her as an independent character, then yes, by all means, move it. My final opinion is that we should probably wait until we get more concrete information. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 10:32, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

But then what's the standard for trainer classes in page titles? That part I don't understand. The Great Butler (talk) 03:44, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps, maybe she comes back in Sun & Moon series then we will see how Admin going to decided want to separate and create another page to represent the title or not? Singaporean (talk) 10:39, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

I concur with this. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 21:11, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

I think it could be moved in the future, her look in Emerald and the Sun and Moon series is 10 years apart as evidenced by her faded and far longer hair and her new attire. Frozen Fennec 02:33, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Why are the Battle Facilty Leader all given a new table?

It looks horrible and confusing, the old one was simple and gave you all the information you needed easily so if it ain't broke don't fix it - unsigned comment from Strawhatroger (talk • contribs)

This template allows the Pokémon's EVs to be displayed, which is important for battle facility Pokémon. --FinnishPokéFan92 (talk) 21:04, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

Some people don't care about EV's so how about a compromise to be able to switch between the new and old versions and save your preferences. - unsigned comment from Strawhatroger (talk • contribs)

The previous template is not really suited for battle facilities, considering certain things are not predefined, such as Ability or gender (and in this case level). In later games, the normal Pokémon template starts falling apart for Pokémon that have 3 different Abilities. Eridanus (talk) 23:44, 27 February 2022 (UTC)