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Between 2004 and 2008, the '''PokéPlus''' fansite reached out to Centauro (the studio behind the Brazilian dub back then) and became involved with official Pokémon media and products, offering consultancy and having an active part on the adaptation of English terms (not only of moves and Abilities, but also items and episode titles) into something the Brazilian audience could resonate with, as revealed in [https://twitter.com/leegusta_/status/1294346640741076993 a tweet] by prior site coordinator LeeGusta. Two moves have localized names used to this day that can be officially traced back to this fan intervention: {{m|Follow Me}}, known as ''[https://twitter.com/sir_pedroh/status/1304466527031308288 Isca-viva]''; and, most popularly, {{m|Volt Tackle}}, known as ''[https://twitter.com/leegusta_/status/1187717181255176192 Investida Trovão]''.
Between 2004 and 2008, the '''PokéPlus''' fansite reached out to Centauro (the studio behind the Brazilian dub back then) and became involved with official Pokémon media and products, offering consultancy and having an active part on the adaptation of English terms (not only of moves and Abilities, but also items and episode titles) into something the Brazilian audience could resonate with, as revealed in [https://twitter.com/leegusta_/status/1294346640741076993 a tweet] by prior site coordinator LeeGusta. Two moves have localized names used to this day that can be officially traced back to this fan intervention: {{m|Follow Me}}, known as ''[https://twitter.com/sir_pedroh/status/1304466527031308288 Isca-viva]''; and, most popularly, {{m|Volt Tackle}}, known as ''[https://twitter.com/leegusta_/status/1187717181255176192 Investida Trovão]''.


After this, a notable change could be seen starting on the [[S10|tenth season]]. Localized names of moves that were commonly used in the ''[[Pokémon the Series: Diamond and Pearl|Diamond and Pearl series]]'' became streamlined: for example, Swift was always ''Estrela Cadente'', and Double Team was always ''Multiplicar''. However, other moves, such as {{m|Iron Head}} and {{m|Whirlwind}}, and Abilities apparently didn't receive the same treatment, with even Blaze, a major driving force in [[Ash's Infernape]]'s development, being referred to by four different names throughout the series, none of which matching the current one.
After this, a notable change regarding the way the Brazilian dub tackled translations could be seen starting around the middle point of the [[S09|ninth season]] and really taking off in the [[S10|tenth season]]. Localized names of moves that were commonly used in ''[[Pokémon the Series: Diamond and Pearl]]'' became streamlined: for example, Swift was always ''Estrela Cadente'', and Double Team was always ''Multiplicar''. However, other moves, such as {{m|Iron Head}} and {{m|Whirlwind}}, and Abilities apparently didn't receive the same treatment, with even Blaze, a major driving force in [[Ash's Infernape]]'s development, being referred to by four different names throughout the series, none of which matching the current one.


The most recent major change in regards to translation and adaptation of terms in the anime spans the [[S16|sixteenth]] and [[S18|eighteenth]] seasons. Even moves known by the same name since the original series weren't safe, as {{m|Hydro Pump}} went from ''Hidro Bomba'' to ''Jato d'Água'', the same name another move was known as, {{m|Water Gun}}, which, subsequently, had to change to ''Revólver d'Água''.
The most recent major change in regards to translation and adaptation of terms in the anime came during ''[[Pokémon the Series: Black & White]]''. Starting in the [[S16|sixteenth season]], the glossary of moves and similars used in the anime was slowly replaced by the one used in the TCG.{{fact}} With this, even staples in the Brazilian dub, such as {{m|Water Gun}} and {{m|Hydro Pump}}, had their names altered: Hydro Pump went from ''Hidro Bomba'' to ''Jato d'Água'', which was the same name Water Gun was known as in previous series. Subsequently, it too had to change, becoming known in Brazil as ''Revólver d'Água''.
 
====Names in the Brazilian dub====
=====Humans=====
In early series, personal names were rarely translated. The biggest examples of characters whose names differ between English and Portuguese are [[Gary Oak]] and {{an|Professor Oak|Samuel Oak}}, whom are known in Brazil as ''Gary Carvalho'' and ''Samuel Carvalho''.
 
In ''[[Pokémon the Series: XY]]'', characters began to have their names slightly adapted, probably to facilitate pronunciation and promote better understanding from the audience. For example, {{an|Clemont}} was known as ''Clément'', [[Professor Sycamore]] was known as ''Professor Sicômoro'', and [[Valerie]] was known as ''Valéria''. For unknown reasons, Valerie retained her English name during ''[[S19|XYZ]]''.
 
It was with ''[[Pokémon the Series: Sun & Moon]]'' that things really changed. Of all new main characters, only {{an|Kiawe}} retained his English name. Even side characters, like [[Oluolu]] and [[Tupp]], had their names localized, but kept a similar structure and the same number of syllables.
 
=====Pokémon=====
 
=====Cities=====
 
====Genders in the Brazilian dub====
Unlike English, the Portuguese language has male and female variations for articles, adjectives, and nouns. Thus, it becomes a necessity to know the gender of a subject to use words that better suit it.
 
While it is unknown when this truly started, the voice actor for [[Goh]] and previous voice director for ''[[Pokémon Journeys: The Series|Pokémon Jornadas: A Série]]'', Renan Vidal, has confirmed that the studio behind the Brazilian dub receives a list containing the genders (male, female, or gender unknown) for every revelant Pokémon in a said episode directly from [[The Pokémon Company International]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hg1KznPZiU</ref> This piece of information was revealed shortly after the release of ''[[JN010|Um teste no paraíso!]]'' on Brazilian television.
 
The following has been confirmed through the Brazilian dub:
* The gender of all of {{Ash}}'s captures in this series almost two years prior to them being distributed in {{g|Sword and Shield}}.
* The gender of all of Goh's [[List of Goh's Pokémon|Pokémon]].
* That [[James's Morpeko]] is a female.
* The first same-sex romantic relationship in the anime, as both the {{p|Frogadier}} and the {{p|Vanillite}} that star in the blue candy commercial in ''[[JN081|Apaixonados por azul!]]'' are referred to as females:
:: ''"Depois de percorrer um longo caminho, <u>a</u> Vanillite se apaixonou à primeira vista por <u>uma</u> Frogadier <u>calma</u>..."''


===In the manga===
===In the manga===
When [[Pokémon Adventures]] began to be localized into Brazilian Portuguese in 2014, [[The Pokémon Company International]] sent to the editor Bruno Zago a list with the translations of all moves that appeared in that chapter.<ref>https://www.poke-blast-news.net/2014/05/entrevista-pbn-bruno-zago_26.html</ref> While the team behind the localization didn't adapt anything from that list, they were responsible for the change that happened with the move {{m|Razor Leaf}}, as it became officially listed as ''Folha Navalha'' instead of ''Folha Gilete'' (which contains the "portuguesified" version of a {{wp|Gillette|brand name}}).
When [[Pokémon Adventures]] began to be localized into Brazilian Portuguese in 2014, [[The Pokémon Company International]] sent to the editor Bruno Zago a list with the translations of all moves that appeared in that chapter.<ref>https://www.poke-blast-news.net/2014/05/entrevista-pbn-bruno-zago_26.html</ref> While the team behind the localization didn't adapt anything from that list, they were responsible for the change that happened with the move {{m|Razor Leaf}}, as it became officially listed as ''Folha Navalha'' instead of ''Folha Gilete'' (which contains a {{wp|Gillette|brand name}}).

Revision as of 21:48, 15 September 2022

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Brazilian voice actors

Main cast

Recurring supporting characters and rivals

Voice directors

Official translation and adaptation

In the games

No core series games have been localized to Brazilian Portuguese, but some side games have, namely Pokémon GO and Pokémon UNITE.

In the anime

The Brazilian dub of the anime has a lot of history in regards to the translation and adaptation of English nomenclature.

Early on, the translations used in the anime were very disorganized and seemingly weren't catalogued in any way, sometimes varying between or even in the very same episode. Major examples of this can be seen in the moves Swift and Double Team, both of which have been used in the anime since the original series and have a long list of adaptations used in the anime. Even Quick Attack, present in Pikachu's moveset since A Exibição do Choque Elétrico, has been referred to as names other than Ataque Rápido (the direct translation of its English name), such as Supervelocidade and Hipervelocidade ("Super Speed" and "Hyper Speed", respectively).

When Abilities came to be, things weren't any better: Swift Swim was somehow translated to Salamandra Aquática ("Aquatic Salamander") in its debut episode, and Blaze's name was mixed with Blaze Kick's when it debuted in Mais Uma Vez Cambaleando.

Between 2004 and 2008, the PokéPlus fansite reached out to Centauro (the studio behind the Brazilian dub back then) and became involved with official Pokémon media and products, offering consultancy and having an active part on the adaptation of English terms (not only of moves and Abilities, but also items and episode titles) into something the Brazilian audience could resonate with, as revealed in a tweet by prior site coordinator LeeGusta. Two moves have localized names used to this day that can be officially traced back to this fan intervention: Follow Me, known as Isca-viva; and, most popularly, Volt Tackle, known as Investida Trovão.

After this, a notable change regarding the way the Brazilian dub tackled translations could be seen starting around the middle point of the ninth season and really taking off in the tenth season. Localized names of moves that were commonly used in Pokémon the Series: Diamond and Pearl became streamlined: for example, Swift was always Estrela Cadente, and Double Team was always Multiplicar. However, other moves, such as Iron Head and Whirlwind, and Abilities apparently didn't receive the same treatment, with even Blaze, a major driving force in Ash's Infernape's development, being referred to by four different names throughout the series, none of which matching the current one.

The most recent major change in regards to translation and adaptation of terms in the anime came during Pokémon the Series: Black & White. Starting in the sixteenth season, the glossary of moves and similars used in the anime was slowly replaced by the one used in the TCG.[citation needed] With this, even staples in the Brazilian dub, such as Water Gun and Hydro Pump, had their names altered: Hydro Pump went from Hidro Bomba to Jato d'Água, which was the same name Water Gun was known as in previous series. Subsequently, it too had to change, becoming known in Brazil as Revólver d'Água.

Names in the Brazilian dub

Humans

In early series, personal names were rarely translated. The biggest examples of characters whose names differ between English and Portuguese are Gary Oak and Samuel Oak, whom are known in Brazil as Gary Carvalho and Samuel Carvalho.

In Pokémon the Series: XY, characters began to have their names slightly adapted, probably to facilitate pronunciation and promote better understanding from the audience. For example, Clemont was known as Clément, Professor Sycamore was known as Professor Sicômoro, and Valerie was known as Valéria. For unknown reasons, Valerie retained her English name during XYZ.

It was with Pokémon the Series: Sun & Moon that things really changed. Of all new main characters, only Kiawe retained his English name. Even side characters, like Oluolu and Tupp, had their names localized, but kept a similar structure and the same number of syllables.

Pokémon
Cities

Genders in the Brazilian dub

Unlike English, the Portuguese language has male and female variations for articles, adjectives, and nouns. Thus, it becomes a necessity to know the gender of a subject to use words that better suit it.

While it is unknown when this truly started, the voice actor for Goh and previous voice director for Pokémon Jornadas: A Série, Renan Vidal, has confirmed that the studio behind the Brazilian dub receives a list containing the genders (male, female, or gender unknown) for every revelant Pokémon in a said episode directly from The Pokémon Company International.[1] This piece of information was revealed shortly after the release of Um teste no paraíso! on Brazilian television.

The following has been confirmed through the Brazilian dub:

"Depois de percorrer um longo caminho, a Vanillite se apaixonou à primeira vista por uma Frogadier calma..."

In the manga

When Pokémon Adventures began to be localized into Brazilian Portuguese in 2014, The Pokémon Company International sent to the editor Bruno Zago a list with the translations of all moves that appeared in that chapter.[2] While the team behind the localization didn't adapt anything from that list, they were responsible for the change that happened with the move Razor Leaf, as it became officially listed as Folha Navalha instead of Folha Gilete (which contains a brand name).

  1. ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Hg1KznPZiU
  2. ↑ https://www.poke-blast-news.net/2014/05/entrevista-pbn-bruno-zago_26.html
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