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::The hair in Sprigatito's cheekbones is similar to the one of the lynx, can look like a cat but a cat doesn't usually have that much hair in that zone, this hair are usually found in lynxs and you can see it [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_lynx here] --[[User:Xyruux|Xyruux]] ([[User talk:Xyruux|talk]]) 10:17, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
::The hair in Sprigatito's cheekbones is similar to the one of the lynx, can look like a cat but a cat doesn't usually have that much hair in that zone, this hair are usually found in lynxs and you can see it [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_lynx here] --[[User:Xyruux|Xyruux]] ([[User talk:Xyruux|talk]]) 10:17, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
:::I'm inclined to agree with Xyruux. I believe when we the evolutionary family of Sprigatito is revealed, we will find more references to the Iberian Lynx (among other things).--[[User:Kodakami|Kodakami]] ([[User talk:Kodakami|talk]]) 19:30, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
:::I'm inclined to agree with Xyruux. I believe when we the evolutionary family of Sprigatito is revealed, we will find more references to the Iberian Lynx (among other things).--[[User:Kodakami|Kodakami]] ([[User talk:Kodakami|talk]]) 19:30, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
:::: If you look at images of long-haired cats, you can see the similarities Sprigatito has with them. They do have long fur at the cheeks, as well as manes and long fur on their tails, similar to tails of foxes, and some fox pokemon have similar tails to Sprigatito's. Besides, just because Sprigatito is from a region that's based on Spain doesn't mean it will evolve into a pokemon based on an animal native to the country. In the last generation, two of the starter pokemon are based on a monkey and a chameleon, animals that aren't native to the UK.[[User:Robbie|Robbie]] ([[User talk:Robbie|talk]]) 00:34, 5 June 2022 (UTC)


==Face symbol==
==Face symbol==
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:1) i believe you should have probably made a new headline for a new conversation instead of putting it directly below the old conversation headline; 2) nah, i don't really see it. the {{wp|fleur-de-lis}} has three leaf blades instead of four, and its sides are more curly too. look at something like {{p|Serperior}} for Pokémon who actually have the fleur-de-lis as a motif.[[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 20:27, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
:1) i believe you should have probably made a new headline for a new conversation instead of putting it directly below the old conversation headline; 2) nah, i don't really see it. the {{wp|fleur-de-lis}} has three leaf blades instead of four, and its sides are more curly too. look at something like {{p|Serperior}} for Pokémon who actually have the fleur-de-lis as a motif.[[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 20:27, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
::Actually now that you mentioned it, its whiskers does look sorta like the fleur-de-lis...[[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 20:29, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
::Actually now that you mentioned it, its whiskers does look sorta like the fleur-de-lis...[[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 20:29, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
:::I was going to say the same thing about the whiskers. Not sure if it's clear enough of a reference to mention tho. Seems a bit random too. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="orangered">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="darkviolet">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 00:11, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
==national dex==
sprigatito's national dex number is '''906'''. {{Unsigned|AxewBowser2022}}
:While it's unlikely, the numbers ''could'' change by release, so I believe we're waiting until the game is out. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><font color="F34134">'''Land'''</font>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma"><small><font color="8334B7">'''fish7'''</font></small></span></span>]] 20:26, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
this may or may not be true, they could always pull a victini and make a legendary come before the starter, thus making sprigatito 907 [[User:Cewkie|Cewkie]] ([[User talk:Cewkie|talk]]) 05:21, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
==Lynx Point==
Given its dark ears, "mask," and evolutions that may draw inspiration from lynxes, I suspect that Sprigatito may be based on lynx point cat/kitten. (I know it lacks the "boots" and dark tail, but so does Persian despite literally being classified as a Siamese cat in the Japanese games.) [[User:Icycatelf|Icycatelf]] ([[User talk:Icycatelf|talk]]) 02:39, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
:This post caused me to go and look up pictures of lynx point cats. And while the pictures i found are all really adorable, none of them really match Sprigatito in appearance? esp. since the face and ear colorations on the lynx point is fainter than that on a regular Siamese (the face pattern is also more stripe-y than anything). [[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 04:20, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
::Some individuals have darker markings than others, and the jagged edge of Sprigatito's leaf-like "mask" to me invokes the lynx point stripes. It may have no connection at all, but given that Gen. VII gave us a tabby (also called a tiger cat) that evolved into a literal tiger, I wouldn't be surprised if Game Freak created a lynx point that evolved into a lynx. [[User:Icycatelf|Icycatelf]] ([[User talk:Icycatelf|talk]]) 19:53, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
== English name origin (my thoughts) ==
(tbh I prolly should've done this before editing, but I didn't know that this section of the site existed so yeah, my bad :V)
Anyway, if you're wondering why I was thinking the name was supposed to be a portmanteau involving either Spriggan or Sprite specifically, that's less to do because of the appearance, and more so because they're basically meant to be fairies, and normally fairies have an reputation to be around forests, so it makes sense due to the kind of typing Sprigatito has, which is, y'know, Grass-type lol
Tbh tho I mainly did that haphazard edit mainly cuz I was kind of annoyed that all that there was when it came to the name origin was just... Sprig, and nothing else; like I know it's meant to be a placeholder, but it just didn't make any sense to me to leave the name like that lmao [[User:Ultima|Ultima]] ([[User talk:Ultima|talk]]) 22:47, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
:That argument ''sorta'' makes sense, but at the same time, none of the Sprig families are Fairy types lmao (and they only learn like what, 2 Fairy type moves?). Plus its Japanese name is just as simple as its English name (just "meow" + Spanish for leaf).
:Simple names aren't inherently bad or incomplete, sometimes names can have so many words and etymologies put into it, while sometimes the naming team can also just slap "Sprig" and "Spanish for kitten" together and call it a day. [[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 02:12, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, that's probably the one thing that wouldn't make as much sense tbh, if they were meant to be based around something like that then why aren't they Fairy-type? lol
I still find the whole "Sprig" thing to be kinda weird tho, mainly cuz I'm not too sure what it really is supposed to mean (unless it just is something that they thought would be something cool to name it, I dunno); maybe it's meant to be the word "Spring" but just the first four letters so it fits the "Gatito" part better? If not that, then I guess there's no point in arguing it any further I guess [[User:Ultima|Ultima]] ([[User talk:Ultima|talk]]) 02:27, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
:https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sprig Noun: '''sprig''' (''plural'' '''sprigs'''): A small shoot or twig of a tree or other plant. [[User:Anzasquiddles|Anzasquiddles]] ([[User talk:Anzasquiddles|talk]]) 03:23, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

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Name origin

I believe hoja (Spanish for leaf, pronounced like the oha part of it's name) may be part of Sprigatito's Japanese name as well.- unsigned comment from 831x10 (talkcontribs)

It might be part of the origin, but that's not what the katakana says. The romanized name, based on just the katakana posted by others is "Nyaoha." Please editors, update this. To be "ja" it would need to add an extra small "ya" to a "Ji" (looks like ジャ) and at that point it would be "nyaojya" and would look like "ニャオジャ." I do understand that "ja" in Spanish is "ha" but that's not what the romanization would look like.
Also, since I saw an edit mention it, it is "NyaOHa" based on the katakana. オ is Oh. ホ is Ho. -Casidesia (talk) 02:50, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
The Spanish word "hoja" is pronounced exactly like what the kana imply: o-ha, not o-jya. so no, the kana isn't wrong, and neither is the officially trademarked romanization of Nyahoja. see wiktionary:hoja for more info. Anzasquiddles (talk) 03:16, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
That isn't how katakana to Romanji works thought. I'm not disputing the Spanish origin for what they're trying to say, I'm just saying that the Romanji under it's name in the title is incorrect. -Casidesia (talk) 03:22, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
The romaji and the trademarked romanizations aren't always the same. So yes, it's exactly how it works for pokemon. The katakana reflects the phonetic pronunciation, and the trademarked name is the intended roman spelling. Also, please don't constantly edit your posts. Kai * the Arc Toraph 03:33, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
Addendum: official trademark filing for "Nyahoja" (someone accidentally deleted this while they're posting their reply, so i'm re-adding it back in.) Anzasquiddles (talk) 04:39, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

Origin

Sprigatito can be a reference of the iberic linx, a typical spanish animal that is in danger of extinction - unsigned comment from Xyruux (talkcontribs)

Looks more like a domestic cat than a lynx.Robbie (talk) 03:33, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
The hair in Sprigatito's cheekbones is similar to the one of the lynx, can look like a cat but a cat doesn't usually have that much hair in that zone, this hair are usually found in lynxs and you can see it here --Xyruux (talk) 10:17, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
I'm inclined to agree with Xyruux. I believe when we the evolutionary family of Sprigatito is revealed, we will find more references to the Iberian Lynx (among other things).--Kodakami (talk) 19:30, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
If you look at images of long-haired cats, you can see the similarities Sprigatito has with them. They do have long fur at the cheeks, as well as manes and long fur on their tails, similar to tails of foxes, and some fox pokemon have similar tails to Sprigatito's. Besides, just because Sprigatito is from a region that's based on Spain doesn't mean it will evolve into a pokemon based on an animal native to the country. In the last generation, two of the starter pokemon are based on a monkey and a chameleon, animals that aren't native to the UK.Robbie (talk) 00:34, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Face symbol

The symbol on its face looks like a fleur-de-lis.--Pokenerd776 (talk) 3:39, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

1) i believe you should have probably made a new headline for a new conversation instead of putting it directly below the old conversation headline; 2) nah, i don't really see it. the fleur-de-lis has three leaf blades instead of four, and its sides are more curly too. look at something like Serperior for Pokémon who actually have the fleur-de-lis as a motif.Anzasquiddles (talk) 20:27, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Actually now that you mentioned it, its whiskers does look sorta like the fleur-de-lis...Anzasquiddles (talk) 20:29, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
I was going to say the same thing about the whiskers. Not sure if it's clear enough of a reference to mention tho. Seems a bit random too. Landfish7 00:11, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

national dex

sprigatito's national dex number is 906. - unsigned comment from AxewBowser2022 (talkcontribs)

While it's unlikely, the numbers could change by release, so I believe we're waiting until the game is out. Landfish7 20:26, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

this may or may not be true, they could always pull a victini and make a legendary come before the starter, thus making sprigatito 907 Cewkie (talk) 05:21, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Lynx Point

Given its dark ears, "mask," and evolutions that may draw inspiration from lynxes, I suspect that Sprigatito may be based on lynx point cat/kitten. (I know it lacks the "boots" and dark tail, but so does Persian despite literally being classified as a Siamese cat in the Japanese games.) Icycatelf (talk) 02:39, 9 January 2023 (UTC)

This post caused me to go and look up pictures of lynx point cats. And while the pictures i found are all really adorable, none of them really match Sprigatito in appearance? esp. since the face and ear colorations on the lynx point is fainter than that on a regular Siamese (the face pattern is also more stripe-y than anything). Anzasquiddles (talk) 04:20, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Some individuals have darker markings than others, and the jagged edge of Sprigatito's leaf-like "mask" to me invokes the lynx point stripes. It may have no connection at all, but given that Gen. VII gave us a tabby (also called a tiger cat) that evolved into a literal tiger, I wouldn't be surprised if Game Freak created a lynx point that evolved into a lynx. Icycatelf (talk) 19:53, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

English name origin (my thoughts)

(tbh I prolly should've done this before editing, but I didn't know that this section of the site existed so yeah, my bad :V)

Anyway, if you're wondering why I was thinking the name was supposed to be a portmanteau involving either Spriggan or Sprite specifically, that's less to do because of the appearance, and more so because they're basically meant to be fairies, and normally fairies have an reputation to be around forests, so it makes sense due to the kind of typing Sprigatito has, which is, y'know, Grass-type lol

Tbh tho I mainly did that haphazard edit mainly cuz I was kind of annoyed that all that there was when it came to the name origin was just... Sprig, and nothing else; like I know it's meant to be a placeholder, but it just didn't make any sense to me to leave the name like that lmao Ultima (talk) 22:47, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

That argument sorta makes sense, but at the same time, none of the Sprig families are Fairy types lmao (and they only learn like what, 2 Fairy type moves?). Plus its Japanese name is just as simple as its English name (just "meow" + Spanish for leaf).
Simple names aren't inherently bad or incomplete, sometimes names can have so many words and etymologies put into it, while sometimes the naming team can also just slap "Sprig" and "Spanish for kitten" together and call it a day. Anzasquiddles (talk) 02:12, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, that's probably the one thing that wouldn't make as much sense tbh, if they were meant to be based around something like that then why aren't they Fairy-type? lol

I still find the whole "Sprig" thing to be kinda weird tho, mainly cuz I'm not too sure what it really is supposed to mean (unless it just is something that they thought would be something cool to name it, I dunno); maybe it's meant to be the word "Spring" but just the first four letters so it fits the "Gatito" part better? If not that, then I guess there's no point in arguing it any further I guess Ultima (talk) 02:27, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sprig Noun: sprig (plural sprigs): A small shoot or twig of a tree or other plant. Anzasquiddles (talk) 03:23, 15 April 2023 (UTC)