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--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:40, 21 January 2020 (UTC) | --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:40, 21 January 2020 (UTC) | ||
== Contact Effects? == | |||
Are Max moves considered contact moves? And if so what moves are. Im asking this because a friend asked me if protective pads would protect his pokemon from a max dragon attack drop if the max move used was a physical attack. [[User:HappyDuckJJ|HappyDuckJJ]] ([[User talk:HappyDuckJJ|talk]]) 20:55, 19 February 2020 (UTC) | |||
== Missing Moves under the Power list == | |||
The following usable non-status moves are not present on the list of power: Dragon Energy, Earie Spell, Expanding Force, Fiery Wrath, Flip Turn, Freezing Glare, Glacial Lance, Grassy Glide, Meteor Beam, Misty Explosion, Scale Shot, Scorching Sands, Shell Side Arm, Skitter Smack, Steel Roller, Surging Strikes, Terrain Pulse, Thunder Cage, Thunderous Kick, Triple Axel, and Wicked Blow. Any reason towards this, or is it an oversight? [[User:WOLKsite|WOLKsite]] ([[User talk:WOLKsite|talk]]) 01:05, 3 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
:Those all appear to be moves added in DLC. I assume they are missing simply because the list was never updated after the DLC was released. Excluding them is not intentional. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 02:26, 3 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Eternabeam == | |||
As we all know, Eternabeam is not a Max Move in the main series games. However, in Pokémon Masters EX, Eternabeam is classified as one, even to the point of the game marketing SS Leon and Eternatus as the first sync pair with a Max Move. Should we add it to the list of Max Moves in the Pokémon Masters EX section, or should we leave it out, only putting moves on that list that are Max Moves both in the main series games and in Masters? This same question also applies to G-Max moves, which are also classified as Max Moves in Masters. '''[[User:Dougbro1|<span style="color:blue">Dougbro1</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Dougbro1|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]]) 22:30, 20 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 22:31, 20 May 2023
New Max Moves
There's a water-type move called Max Geyser, you should add that. Salamence1993 (talk) 18:29, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
Ice-type Max Move
Well, I created an article about ダイアイス, an Ice-type Max Move. It should be linked on this list. --TheICTLiker4piszże do mnie 19:36, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Add regular move power column
Maybe add a column that displays the moves regular power, would be nice to compare the before and after max boost.
No conversion formula?
Is there no conversion formula (even piecewise/stepwise/doesn't have to be a simple function) between the base move power and the Max move power, like there is for Z-Moves? The current table is very long and feels like it doesn't need to be. Blueapple128 (talk) 17:45, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- Well, have you tried to find one yourself?
- I don't think there's an easy one. Fighting type moves are particularly "weak", for example, and Counter's Max Move has a different power than Mirror Coat or Final Gambit, so the list is probably easiest. Nescientist (talk) 18:10, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- Fighting and Poison (and Multi-Attack, because it can be those types) are less powerful than other types. Otherwise, the formula is roughly as follows (credit to SadisticMystic), although I've removed all of the exceptions (and there are a lot).
| Original Power | Max Move Power | |
|---|---|---|
| Most types | Fighting & Poison | |
| 150+ | 150 | 100 |
| 110-140 | 140 | 95 |
| 75-100 | 130 | 90 |
| 65-70 | 120 | 85 |
| 55-60 | 110 | 80 |
| 45-50 | 100 | 75 |
| 10-40 | 90 | 70 |
--SnorlaxMonster 10:40, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Contact Effects?
Are Max moves considered contact moves? And if so what moves are. Im asking this because a friend asked me if protective pads would protect his pokemon from a max dragon attack drop if the max move used was a physical attack. HappyDuckJJ (talk) 20:55, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
Missing Moves under the Power list
The following usable non-status moves are not present on the list of power: Dragon Energy, Earie Spell, Expanding Force, Fiery Wrath, Flip Turn, Freezing Glare, Glacial Lance, Grassy Glide, Meteor Beam, Misty Explosion, Scale Shot, Scorching Sands, Shell Side Arm, Skitter Smack, Steel Roller, Surging Strikes, Terrain Pulse, Thunder Cage, Thunderous Kick, Triple Axel, and Wicked Blow. Any reason towards this, or is it an oversight? WOLKsite (talk) 01:05, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- Those all appear to be moves added in DLC. I assume they are missing simply because the list was never updated after the DLC was released. Excluding them is not intentional. --SnorlaxMonster 02:26, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Eternabeam
As we all know, Eternabeam is not a Max Move in the main series games. However, in Pokémon Masters EX, Eternabeam is classified as one, even to the point of the game marketing SS Leon and Eternatus as the first sync pair with a Max Move. Should we add it to the list of Max Moves in the Pokémon Masters EX section, or should we leave it out, only putting moves on that list that are Max Moves both in the main series games and in Masters? This same question also applies to G-Max moves, which are also classified as Max Moves in Masters. Dougbro1 (Talk) 22:30, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
