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==No notes==
;In-battle form changes
{{MSP|0351|Castform}}{{MSP|0382|Kyogre}}{{MSP|0383|Groudon}}{{MSP|0555|Darmanitan}}{{MSP|0555G|Darmanitan}}{{MSP|0648|Meloetta}}{{MSP|0681|Aegislash}}{{MSP|0746|Wishiwashi}}{{MSP|0778|Mimikyu}}{{MSP|0845|Cramorant}}{{MSP|0875|Eiscue}}{{MSP|0877|Morpeko}}{{MSP|0964|Palafin}} Also all megas and G-Max forms, Complete Zygarde, and Ultra Necrozma
;Temporary cosmetic in-battle changes
{{MSP|0643|Reshiram}}{{MSP|0644|Zekrom}}{{MSP|0791|Solgaleo}}{{MSP|0792|Lunala}}{{MSP|0802|Marshadow}}
;Forms not usable in battle
{{MSP|0716|Xerneas}}{{MSP|0717|Yveltal}}{{MSP|0890|Eternatus}}{{MSP|0966|Revavroom}}{{MSP|1007|Koraidon}}{{MSP|1008|Miraidon}}
==Always: All forms==
==Always: All forms==


;Interchangeable forms
;Interchangeable forms


{{MSP|0412|Burmy}}{{MSP|0479|Rotom}}{{MSP|0585|Deerling}}{{MSP|0586|Sawsbuck}}{{MSP|0676|Furfrou}}{{MSP|0741|Oricorio}}{{MSP|0774|Minior}}{{MSP|0905|Enamorus}}{{MSP|1017|Ogerpon}} Can be in any of their forms when teaching a move (forms for Minior only refer to the color)
{{MSP|0412|Burmy}}{{MSP|0479|Rotom}}{{MSP|0585|Deerling}}{{MSP|0586|Sawsbuck}}{{MSP|0649|Genesect}}{{MSP|0676|Furfrou}}{{MSP|0741|Oricorio}}{{MSP|0905|Enamorus}}{{MSP|1017|Ogerpon}} Can be in any of their forms when teaching a move


;Non-interchangeable forms
;Non-interchangeable forms


{{MSP|0201|Unown}}{{MSP|0422|Shellos}}{{MSP|0423|Gastrodon}}{{MSP|0666|Vivillon}}{{MSP|0669|Flabébé}}{{MSP|0671|Florges}}{{MSP|0710|Pumpkaboo}}{{MSP|0711|Gourgeist}}{{MSP|0801|Magearna}}{{MSP|0854|Sinistea}}{{MSP|0855|Polteageist}}{{MSP|0869|Alcremie}}{{MSP|0893|Zarude}}{{MSP|0925|Maushold}}{{MSP|0931|Squawkabilly}}{{MSP|0978|Tatsugiri}}{{MSP|0982|Dudunsparce}}{{MSP|0999|Gimmighoul}}{{MSP|1012|Poltchageist}}{{MSP|1013|Sinistcha}}
{{MSP|0201|Unown}}{{MSP|0422|Shellos}}{{MSP|0423|Gastrodon}}{{MSP|0666|Vivillon}}{{MSP|0669|Flabébé}}{{MSP|0671|Florges}}{{MSP|0710|Pumpkaboo}}{{MSP|0711|Gourgeist}}{{MSP|0774|Minior}}{{MSP|0801|Magearna}}{{MSP|0854|Sinistea}}{{MSP|0855|Polteageist}}{{MSP|0869|Alcremie}}{{MSP|0893|Zarude}}{{MSP|0925|Maushold}}{{MSP|0931|Squawkabilly}}{{MSP|0978|Tatsugiri}}{{MSP|0982|Dudunsparce}}{{MSP|0999|Gimmighoul}}{{MSP|1012|Poltchageist}}{{MSP|1013|Sinistcha}} Forms for Minior only refer to the color


;Gender differences
;Gender differences
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==When all forms share the move: All forms; otherwise specify==
==When all forms share the move: All forms; otherwise specify==


{{MSP|0678|Meowstic}}{{MSP|0849|Toxtricity}}{{MSP|0876|Indeedee}} Only a few non-shared moves, otherwise everything is the same
{{MSP|0386|Deoxys}} Pay attention to Gen III tutors
 
{{MSP|0678|Meowstic}}{{MSP|0876|Indeedee}} Significant enough movepool differences between genders
 
{{MSP|0849|Toxtricity}} Only for Venoshock/Venom Drench, Shift Gear/Magnetic Flux


{{MSP|0413|Wormadam}} Except Giga Drain (the other forms learn it later on)
{{MSP|0413|Wormadam}} Except Giga Drain (the other forms learn it later on)
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==Forms debuted in different games: All available forms?==
==Forms debuted in different games: All available forms?==


{{MSP|0483|Dialga}}{{MSP|0484|Palkia}}{{MSP|0718|Zygarde}} Different debut generations, don't separate if it first learns the move in a game where all forms are available
{{MSP|0718|Zygarde}} Different debut generations, don't separate if it first learns the move in a Gen VII game, note "50% Forme" in Gen 6 sections
 
{{MSP|0487|Giratina}}{{MSP|0492|Shaymin}}{{MSP|0641|Tornadus}}{{MSP|0642|Thundurus}}{{MSP|0645|Landorus}}{{MSP|0646|Kyurem}}{{MSP|0647|Keldeo}}{{MSP|0720|Hoopa}}{{MSP|0800|Necrozma}} Same debut generation, don't separate if the tutor is only available in the second version


==Battle forms, no note==
{{MSP|0483|Dialga}}{{MSP|0484|Palkia}} Different debut generations, don't separate if it first learns the move in LA or SV


;Form changes
{{MSP|0487|Giratina}}{{MSP|0492|Shaymin}} Same debut generation, don't separate if the move is first learned in PtHGSS


{{MSP|0351|Castform}}{{MSP|0382|Kyogre}}{{MSP|0383|Groudon}}{{MSP|0555|Darmanitan}}{{MSP|0555G|Darmanitan}}{{MSP|0648|Meloetta}}{{MSP|0681|Aegislash}}{{MSP|0746|Wishiwashi}}{{MSP|0778|Mimikyu}}{{MSP|0845|Cramorant}}{{MSP|0875|Eiscue}}{{MSP|0877|Morpeko}}{{MSP|0964|Palafin}}
{{MSP|0641|Tornadus}}{{MSP|0642|Thundurus}}{{MSP|0645|Landorus}}{{MSP|0646|Kyurem}}{{MSP|0647|Keldeo}} Same debut generation, don't separate if the move is first learned in B2W2


;Temporary cosmetic changes
{{MSP|0720|Hoopa}} Same debut generation, don't separate if the move is first learned in ORAS


{{MSP|0643|Reshiram}}{{MSP|0644|Zekrom}}{{MSP|0791|Solgaleo}}{{MSP|0792|Lunala}}{{MSP|0802|Marshadow}}
{{MSP|0800|Necrozma}} Same debut generation, don't separate if the move is first learned in USUM


==Forms not usable in battle, no note==
{{MSP|0898|Calyrex}} Rider forms know all the base form's moves, level-up moves remain learnable at the same level, Grassy Terrain and Aromatherapy are exceptions that will need to be noted
 
{{MSP|0716|Xerneas}}{{MSP|0717|Yveltal}}{{MSP|0890|Eternatus}}{{MSP|0966|Revavroom}}


==Always separate==
==Always separate==


{{MSP|0658|Greninja}} Different debut generations and egg groups
{{MSP|0658|Greninja}}{{MSP|0658|Greninja}} Different debut generations and egg groups


{{MSP|0745|Lycanroc}} More drastic movepool differences, different game debuts within a generation
{{MSP|0745|Lycanroc}}{{MSP|0745Mn|Lycanroc}}{{MSP|0745D|Lycanroc}} More drastic movepool differences, different game debuts within a generation


{{MSP|0892|Urshifu}} More drastic type and movepool differences
{{MSP|0892|Urshifu}}{{MSP|0892|Urshifu}} More drastic type and movepool differences (possible it will receive different sprites in the future)


{{MSP|0901|Ursaluna}} Different debut generations and drastic movepool differences
{{MSP|0901|Ursaluna}}{{MSP|0901B|Ursaluna}} Different debut generations and drastic movepool differences


==Undecided==
==Undecided==


{{MSP|0386|Deoxys}} Need more research on Gen 3 trade mechanics
{{MSP|0025|Pikachu}} What to do with the Cosplay and Capped Pikachu?
 
[[File:Spr 4h 172N.png|link=Pichu (Pokémon)]] Should it be listed? Regular Pichu wouldn't have the "All forms" note similarly to Greninja and Ursaluna.


{{MSP|0550|Basculin}} Different debut generations between Red/Blue (count as one) and White, don't separate if it first learns the move in a game where all forms are available?
{{MSP|0550|Basculin}} Different debut generations between Red/Blue (count as one) and White, don't separate if it first learns the move in a game where all forms are available?


{{MSP|0670|Floette}}
{{MSP|0670|Floette}} "All forms" would exclude Eternal Flower Floette
 
{{MSP|0898|Calyrex}} Ride forms know all the base form's moves


{{MSP|0493|Arceus}} Pixie Plate (also Draco Meteor)
{{MSP|0493|Arceus}} Pixie Plate (also Draco Meteor)

Revision as of 20:12, 30 September 2023

No notes

In-battle form changes

CastformKyogreGroudonDarmanitanDarmanitanMeloettaAegislashWishiwashiMimikyuCramorantEiscueMorpekoPalafin Also all megas and G-Max forms, Complete Zygarde, and Ultra Necrozma

Temporary cosmetic in-battle changes

ReshiramZekromSolgaleoLunalaMarshadow

Forms not usable in battle

XerneasYveltalEternatusRevavroomKoraidonMiraidon

Always: All forms

Interchangeable forms

BurmyRotomDeerlingSawsbuckGenesectFurfrouOricorioEnamorusOgerpon Can be in any of their forms when teaching a move

Non-interchangeable forms

UnownShellosGastrodonVivillonFlabébéFlorgesPumpkabooGourgeistMiniorMagearnaSinisteaPolteageistAlcremieZarudeMausholdSquawkabillyTatsugiriDudunsparceGimmighoulPoltchageistSinistcha Forms for Minior only refer to the color

Gender differences

UnfezantFrillishJellicentPyroarBasculegion Siginficant enough aesthetic differences

When all forms share the move: All forms; otherwise specify

Deoxys Pay attention to Gen III tutors

MeowsticIndeedee Significant enough movepool differences between genders

Toxtricity Only for Venoshock/Venom Drench, Shift Gear/Magnetic Flux

Wormadam Except Giga Drain (the other forms learn it later on)

ZacianZamazenta Only for Iron Head/Behemoth Blade/Behemoth Bash

Silvally Only for Draco Meteor

Oinkologne Only difference is the level at which they learn the same moves

Forms debuted in different games: All available forms?

Zygarde Different debut generations, don't separate if it first learns the move in a Gen VII game, note "50% Forme" in Gen 6 sections

DialgaPalkia Different debut generations, don't separate if it first learns the move in LA or SV

GiratinaShaymin Same debut generation, don't separate if the move is first learned in PtHGSS

TornadusThundurusLandorusKyuremKeldeo Same debut generation, don't separate if the move is first learned in B2W2

Hoopa Same debut generation, don't separate if the move is first learned in ORAS

Necrozma Same debut generation, don't separate if the move is first learned in USUM

Calyrex Rider forms know all the base form's moves, level-up moves remain learnable at the same level, Grassy Terrain and Aromatherapy are exceptions that will need to be noted

Always separate

GreninjaGreninja Different debut generations and egg groups

LycanrocLycanrocLycanroc More drastic movepool differences, different game debuts within a generation

UrshifuUrshifu More drastic type and movepool differences (possible it will receive different sprites in the future)

UrsalunaUrsaluna Different debut generations and drastic movepool differences

Undecided

Pikachu What to do with the Cosplay and Capped Pikachu?

Spr 4h 172N.png Should it be listed? Regular Pichu wouldn't have the "All forms" note similarly to Greninja and Ursaluna.

Basculin Different debut generations between Red/Blue (count as one) and White, don't separate if it first learns the move in a game where all forms are available?

Floette "All forms" would exclude Eternal Flower Floette

Arceus Pixie Plate (also Draco Meteor)