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;In-battle form changes | ;In-battle form changes | ||
{{MSP|0351|Castform}}{{MSP|0382|Kyogre}}{{MSP|0383|Groudon}}{{MSP|0555|Darmanitan}}{{MSP|0555G|Darmanitan}}{{MSP|0648|Meloetta}}{{MSP|0681|Aegislash}}{{MSP|0746|Wishiwashi}}{{MSP|0778|Mimikyu}}{{MSP|0845|Cramorant}}{{MSP|0875|Eiscue}}{{MSP|0877|Morpeko}}{{MSP|0964|Palafin}} Also all megas and G-Max forms, Complete Zygarde, and Ultra Necrozma | {{MSP|0351|Castform}}{{MSP|0382|Kyogre}}{{MSP|0383|Groudon}}{{MSP|0555|Darmanitan}}{{MSP|0555G|Darmanitan}}{{MSP|0648|Meloetta}}{{MSP|0681|Aegislash}}{{MSP|0746|Wishiwashi}}{{MSP|0778|Mimikyu}}{{MSP|0845|Cramorant}}{{MSP|0875|Eiscue}}{{MSP|0877|Morpeko}}{{MSP|0964|Palafin}}{{MSP|1024|Terapagos}} Also all megas and G-Max forms, Complete Zygarde, and Ultra Necrozma | ||
;Temporary cosmetic in-battle changes | ;Temporary cosmetic in-battle changes | ||
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==Forms debuted in different games: All available forms== | ==Forms debuted in different games: All available forms== | ||
{{MSP|0658|Greninja}}{{MSP|0658|Greninja}} Different debut generations and egg groups | |||
{{MSP|0718|Zygarde}} Different debut generations, don't separate if it first learns the move in a Gen VII game, note "50% Forme" in Gen 6 sections | {{MSP|0718|Zygarde}} Different debut generations, don't separate if it first learns the move in a Gen VII game, note "50% Forme" in Gen 6 sections | ||
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https://i.imgur.com/D1T9Tz7.png{{MSP|0550W|Basculin}} Different debut generations between Red/Blue (count as one) and White. Probably best to have only two entries: Red/Blue and White, since the first two existed for 12 years without the third, an overwhelming majority of the moves they learn will always have separate entries. Combining all three in a few cases is not worth the inconsistency. They could also introduce more forms in the future. | https://i.imgur.com/D1T9Tz7.png{{MSP|0550W|Basculin}} Different debut generations between Red/Blue (count as one) and White. Probably best to have only two entries: Red/Blue and White, since the first two existed for 12 years without the third, an overwhelming majority of the moves they learn will always have separate entries. Combining all three in a few cases is not worth the inconsistency. They could also introduce more forms in the future. | ||
{{MSP|0745|Lycanroc}}{{MSP|0745Mn|Lycanroc}}{{MSP|0745D|Lycanroc}} More drastic movepool differences, different game debuts within a generation | {{MSP|0745|Lycanroc}}{{MSP|0745Mn|Lycanroc}}{{MSP|0745D|Lycanroc}} More drastic movepool differences, different game debuts within a generation | ||
Latest revision as of 13:43, 5 January 2024
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- In-battle form changes
Also all megas and G-Max forms, Complete Zygarde, and Ultra Necrozma
- Temporary cosmetic in-battle changes
- Forms not usable in battle
- Only distinction is the game's code
Always: All forms
- Interchangeable forms
Can be in any of their forms when teaching a move
- Non-interchangeable forms
Forms for Minior only refer to the color
- Gender differences
Siginficant enough aesthetic differences
Pay attention to Gen III tutors
Significant enough movepool differences between genders
Only for Venoshock/Venom Drench, Shift Gear/Magnetic Flux
Except Giga Drain, Solar Beam and Dig (the other forms learn it later on)
Only for Iron Head/Behemoth Blade/Behemoth Bash
Only for Draco Meteor
Rider forms know all the base form's moves, level-up moves remain learnable at the same level, Grassy Terrain and Aromatherapy are exceptions that will need to be noted
Only difference is the level at which they learn the same moves
Forms debuted in different games: All available forms
Different debut generations and egg groups
Different debut generations, don't separate if it first learns the move in a Gen VII game, note "50% Forme" in Gen 6 sections
Different debut generations, don't separate if it first learns the move in LA or SV
Same debut generation, don't separate if the move is first learned in PtHGSS
"All forms" would exclude the Pixie Plate in Gens IV and V (same approach for Draco Meteor as with Silvally)
Same debut generation, don't separate if the move is first learned in B2W2
Same debut generation, don't separate if the move is first learned in ORAS
Same debut generation, don't separate if the move is first learned in USUM
Always separate
Different debut generations between Red/Blue (count as one) and White. Probably best to have only two entries: Red/Blue and White, since the first two existed for 12 years without the third, an overwhelming majority of the moves they learn will always have separate entries. Combining all three in a few cases is not worth the inconsistency. They could also introduce more forms in the future.
More drastic movepool differences, different game debuts within a generation
More drastic type and movepool differences (possible it will receive different sprites in the future)
Different debut generations and drastic movepool differences (It would be good to have a form name for regular Ursaluna)
Only note the form
Only difference is the signature moves they can learn, so regular forms don't need an "All forms" note
Undecided
What to do with the Cosplay and Capped Pikachu?
Should it be listed? Regular Pichu wouldn't have the "All forms" note similarly to Greninja and Ursaluna.
- Possible solution: use "All obtainable forms" for everything (that text would break after "All" so a whitespace parameter would have to specified in the entry templates)
"All forms" would exclude Eternal Flower Floette
