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::::::Have you tried rebattling the Elite Four or Red? Events have a "reset" sort of function on some game events. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 03:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC) | ::::::Have you tried rebattling the Elite Four or Red? Events have a "reset" sort of function on some game events. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 03:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
==Wild Dratini's Level== | |||
I've found wild Dratini in here (surfing) ranging from levels 7-15 in HeartGold, English version. I'm still kind of a newbie to editing around here, so I don't want to push the actual update and risk stepping on toes. -- [[User:MaoDaAmargura|MaoDaAmargura]] 03:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC) | |||
I have found this to be false as i used a Super Rod and the 1st Dratini i caught was a level 40. Can someone please fix this or somehow mention it on the page? I wouldn't doubt that the levels from Crystal were the same in HG/SS again. [[User:Yourlilemogirl|Yourlilemogirl]] 04:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC) | |||
:I've added that. I'd be surprised if the whole list isn't ''actually'' the same as GSC, but I don't actually know. I went through there as fast as I could and haven't got around to going back yet (not even for the gift Dratini). <sc>[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</sc> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 05:49, 23 May 2010 (UTC) | |||
I just updated the page with Dratini levels as well has magikarp levels. I went fishing then remembered that Old Rods give level 10 pokemon, Good Rods give level 20 pokemon, and Super Rods give level 40 pokemon. After about 3 fishing attempts I figured out that the only time you can't catch a Dratini with a rod is the Old Rod. I've changed the pokemon available table to reflect this. [[User:boriater|boriater]] 02:04, 25 May 2010 (UTC) | |||
== The dratini == | == The dratini == | ||
is there really an dratini that is given on hg/ss? im playing soulsilver but ive come so many times in the den but when i talk to the master he always talks about the whirl islands,, | is there really an dratini that is given on hg/ss? im playing soulsilver but ive come so many times in the den but when i talk to the master he always talks about the whirl islands,, {{unsigned|Wisp82}} | ||
:I did receive a Dratini at Dragon's Den... the article says you have to leave the Den and re-enter and then you can get Dratini, have you tried that? --[[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 13:54, 25 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
::yeah i did that.. and even i re-entered after beating red i didn't receive anything {{Unsigned|Wisp82}} | |||
You need to go back to the gym and get your Dragon Pulse TM from Clair before the Elder will give you the Dratini. [[User:Quadropheneom|Quadropheneom]] 14:58, 11 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
:I've just done this and can confirm returning to Clair for the TM is needed before the elder will give the dratini. I also tried this twice, with different answers each time, and he gave me the dratini both times. It could be worth investigating if the answers matter at all. [[User:Object In Space|Object In Space]] 14:35, 30 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Maps == | |||
Would it be possible to get HG/SS Maps? You can find several on the internet, but I don't know how to go about getting permission or making my own to upload. [[User:Yleron|Yleron]] 09:12, 27 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Items == | |||
== | Should the location and type of items available to be found in the den be added to the page? I know there's at least a Max Elixer and a Dragon Fang. [[User:GuestHD|GuestHD]] 00:19, 15 March 2012 (UTC) | ||
:New sections to the bottom please. And please [[Dragon's Den#Items|read the page]] before asking about adding stuff. There's a lot of info there already. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 02:47, 15 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Dratini w/ ExtremeSpeed == | |||
For the master's quiz, are you sure that "Anyone" on the question about what kind of trainers you wish to fight is the ''only'' right answer? Because on Lucahjin's Pokemon HG LP, she answered that she would only fight strong trainers (https://youtu.be/Kyt2trnhGu8?t=780) and she still got the Dratini with ExtremeSpeed (https://youtu.be/OQwkYmW4HIQ?t=246). | |||
== Super Rod Encounter Rates in HG/SS == | |||
Using Spiky's DS Map Editor (a rom hacking tool for gen IV games), you can see that the encounter rates are: | |||
- Magikarp: 66% | |||
- Dratini: 30% | |||
- Dragonair: 4% | |||
I don't know how reliable that tool is, but what really caught my attention is that before the "March 31, 2022" edit, those were the encounter rates the article said, and then it changed to: | |||
- Magikarp: 65% | |||
- Dratini: 32% | |||
- Dragonair: 3% | |||
My question is: does anyone know why it was changed? What's the evidence towards the new encounter rates shown in the article? {{unsigned|Qubincy}} | |||
:And now {{u|Michael Myers2002}} changed it again to 60% Magikarp, 30% Dratini, and 10% Dragonair. We really need an authoritative source to put this to rest; would [https://github.com/pret/pokeheartgold the decompilation] be useful? [[User:Rjd1922|Rjd1922]] ([[User talk:Rjd1922|talk]]) 21:06, 6 January 2024 (UTC) | |||
I | ::I used data directly dumped from the game in early December to fix all the encounter rate issues with the Gen4 games. -[[User:Minibug|Minibug]] ([[User talk:Minibug|talk]]) 22:49, 8 January 2024 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 22:49, 8 January 2024
Now, this double battle with Lance and Clair. The article says this occasionally happens, but it seems to me it's a one time thing. So, which is it? --Ryuutakeshi 03:37, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
- I want to bring this back up. Does it really happen multiple times? CuboneKing 01:35, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- I read elsewhere that doing the double battle resets Silver appearing at the Indigo League (or vice versa). Of course, I'm only at Goldenrod... —darklordtrom 01:38, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- Silver appears at the Indigo League once every Monday and Wednesday... So I don't think that's the case... I just finished a league rematch, so if it's vice versa, I'll go check... CuboneKing 01:42, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- It isn't the case... CuboneKing 01:44, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- I've been checking the Dragon's Den every day since reading about the "occasional" happening of the tag battle, but to no avail. I'm afraid it may very well be a one-time deal, as Ryuutakeshi stated. Anhsieh 22:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- Have you tried rebattling the Elite Four or Red? Events have a "reset" sort of function on some game events. —darklordtrom 03:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
- I've been checking the Dragon's Den every day since reading about the "occasional" happening of the tag battle, but to no avail. I'm afraid it may very well be a one-time deal, as Ryuutakeshi stated. Anhsieh 22:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- It isn't the case... CuboneKing 01:44, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- Silver appears at the Indigo League once every Monday and Wednesday... So I don't think that's the case... I just finished a league rematch, so if it's vice versa, I'll go check... CuboneKing 01:42, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- I read elsewhere that doing the double battle resets Silver appearing at the Indigo League (or vice versa). Of course, I'm only at Goldenrod... —darklordtrom 01:38, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Wild Dratini's Level
I've found wild Dratini in here (surfing) ranging from levels 7-15 in HeartGold, English version. I'm still kind of a newbie to editing around here, so I don't want to push the actual update and risk stepping on toes. -- MaoDaAmargura 03:35, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
I have found this to be false as i used a Super Rod and the 1st Dratini i caught was a level 40. Can someone please fix this or somehow mention it on the page? I wouldn't doubt that the levels from Crystal were the same in HG/SS again. Yourlilemogirl 04:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
- I've added that. I'd be surprised if the whole list isn't actually the same as GSC, but I don't actually know. I went through there as fast as I could and haven't got around to going back yet (not even for the gift Dratini). Werdnae (talk) 05:49, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
I just updated the page with Dratini levels as well has magikarp levels. I went fishing then remembered that Old Rods give level 10 pokemon, Good Rods give level 20 pokemon, and Super Rods give level 40 pokemon. After about 3 fishing attempts I figured out that the only time you can't catch a Dratini with a rod is the Old Rod. I've changed the pokemon available table to reflect this. boriater 02:04, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
The dratini
is there really an dratini that is given on hg/ss? im playing soulsilver but ive come so many times in the den but when i talk to the master he always talks about the whirl islands,, - unsigned comment from Wisp82 (talk • contribs)
- I did receive a Dratini at Dragon's Den... the article says you have to leave the Den and re-enter and then you can get Dratini, have you tried that? --ZestyCactus 13:54, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
You need to go back to the gym and get your Dragon Pulse TM from Clair before the Elder will give you the Dratini. Quadropheneom 14:58, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've just done this and can confirm returning to Clair for the TM is needed before the elder will give the dratini. I also tried this twice, with different answers each time, and he gave me the dratini both times. It could be worth investigating if the answers matter at all. Object In Space 14:35, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
Maps
Would it be possible to get HG/SS Maps? You can find several on the internet, but I don't know how to go about getting permission or making my own to upload. Yleron 09:12, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Items
Should the location and type of items available to be found in the den be added to the page? I know there's at least a Max Elixer and a Dragon Fang. GuestHD 00:19, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
- New sections to the bottom please. And please read the page before asking about adding stuff. There's a lot of info there already. Werdnae (talk) 02:47, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Dratini w/ ExtremeSpeed
For the master's quiz, are you sure that "Anyone" on the question about what kind of trainers you wish to fight is the only right answer? Because on Lucahjin's Pokemon HG LP, she answered that she would only fight strong trainers (https://youtu.be/Kyt2trnhGu8?t=780) and she still got the Dratini with ExtremeSpeed (https://youtu.be/OQwkYmW4HIQ?t=246).
Super Rod Encounter Rates in HG/SS
Using Spiky's DS Map Editor (a rom hacking tool for gen IV games), you can see that the encounter rates are:
- Magikarp: 66% - Dratini: 30% - Dragonair: 4%
I don't know how reliable that tool is, but what really caught my attention is that before the "March 31, 2022" edit, those were the encounter rates the article said, and then it changed to:
- Magikarp: 65% - Dratini: 32% - Dragonair: 3%
My question is: does anyone know why it was changed? What's the evidence towards the new encounter rates shown in the article? - unsigned comment from Qubincy (talk • contribs)
- And now Michael Myers2002 changed it again to 60% Magikarp, 30% Dratini, and 10% Dragonair. We really need an authoritative source to put this to rest; would the decompilation be useful? Rjd1922 (talk) 21:06, 6 January 2024 (UTC)