Talk:Costume event

Suggesting split

There seems to be plenty of info about each costume event to justify its own page, and presently it's kind of a hassle to scroll between them. --Boblers (talk) 19:27, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Agreed. I have a mostly-complete draft for Super Tour Guide Rosa already made up, since it's literally identical to story events in structure. (While I haven't brought it up there yet, for the same reason I think Neo Champions should be split.)

On the topic of this split, though, I'm not sure how to structure the pages for Poké War Games and Curious Tea Party, with all the sub-areas (and the completely different format for the rerun). And I kinda feel like Solve the Case part 1 and part 2 should have separate pages. Storm Aurora (talk) 01:23, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

It's been a while since this was suggested, but with the last SC event rerunning and potentially a new one on the way, it seems to be a good time start splitting up this page. The draft of Super Tour Guide Rosa I linked above is complete and ready for mainspacing, as well as Solve the Case! (Part 1). My draft for Solve the Case! (Part 2) is almost complete, I just need to double-check some of the rerun info. As long as people don't mind Solve the Case getting split into two pages, I'd like to mainspace them quickly. Poké War Games and Curious Tea Party are a different beast to all the other event pages I've made so far, so I don't know how long they'll take to get ready, but I don't think that should stop us from reducing the current bloat on the page. Storm Aurora (talk) 06:25, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

The drafts look great! The scope of each half of the 2-parter seems to be about as large as other event pages, so I think splitting the two parts like this makes sense. --Boblers (talk) 06:44, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Alright, I've been putting it off for a while, but I finally took a stab at splitting Poké War Games. I tried putting everything on one page at first, but it still felt awfully bloated, and either I'd have to repeat a lot of the same information in each sub-story section or you'd have to scroll a long way to get from the prose to the corresponding battle/shop tables. So, I tried splitting Diantha's Battle Prep, Hilda's Battle Prep, Guzma's Battle Prep, Jasmine's Battle Prep and Battle Prep into separate pages that link back to the main Poké War Games article. I like how this format turned out, but I'd love to hear what other people think.

Also, the Japanese name translations I put on those articles are all machine translations, so if someone who actually knows Japanese wants to double-check those for me, that'd be great ^^; Storm Aurora (talk) 07:17, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Made drafts for Curious Tea Party, Lillie's Party Prep, Sonia's Party Prep, Ingo's Party Prep, Emmet's Party Prep, and Solving Wonderful Mysteries using the same format. They're mostly structured the same as the Poké War Games ones, but I had to get a little creative with how I handled the riddle missions. It's implemented slightly differently on the individual sub-story pages than it is on the Solving Wonderful Mysteries page, so if anyone has any feedback on which format they prefer (or if you think it's OK for them to be different), I'd appreciate it!

Another problem that I ran into with these events is how to name the pages of the individual sub-stories. Unlike the Poké War Games sub-stories, Curious Tea Party's sub-story titles consist of two phrases: one is "[X]'s Party Prep" and the other is a unique name for that story. This page currently titles the sections with the two phrases with no breaks (ex. "Lillie's Party Prep An Eye for Beauty"), but sync pair pages format the titles with a colon separating the two phrases (ex. "Lillie's Party Prep: An Eye for Beauty"), and you'll notice that my drafts only use the first phrase as the title. After looking at the names in other languages and finding out they all localized it it differently (French and Spanish don't include the second phrase at all; German and Italian use the character's name and then the second phrase), I decided to do some research to figure out what the proper title for them would be. I discovered that in the event announcement, there's no punctuation at all, not even between Costume Event and the title. In the event menu, the phrases are separated by line breaks. In the game file titled "event_name", there's a colon between the event type and an emdash between the phrases (Costume Event: Lillie’s Party Prep—An Eye for Beauty; Costume Event: Sonia’s Party Prep—The Finest Tea; Costume Event: Ingo’s Party Prep—Way of the Butler; and Costume Event: Emmet’s Party Prep—Heart and Soul). So, I'm not really sure what the proper title for these pages would be. Any thoughts? Storm Aurora (talk) 21:20, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

(resetting indent) Apologies for not commenting on the format for Poké War Games - those and the newly-proposed drafts look great! Splitting up the battles and shops by sub-story makes it much easier to parse the data for each.

Since several of these events are referencing other events/sub-events, etc, I think it might be helpful to bold the links to other events in prose. That could help catch the eye of readers who who are skimming through.

For the naming issue, I think the colon + emdash is probably the cleanest way to do it - these English titles are essentially in pieces, and that format divides up the pieces cleanly. Masters does seem to have a consistency issue with how they name things (stuff capitalized in one place but not another, etc), so I think we have some flexibility in choosing which of their formats to use. --Boblers (talk) 00:56, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

For the naming issue, I don't see a problem with the page being a just "Lillie's Party Prep" and the full name of "Lillie's Party Prep: An Eye for Beauty" being mentioned in the infobox. However even if the full title is selected for the page location, I don't think there's a point to have "Costume Party:" in the title. As for the colon vs emdash, it should be the one which will be used in prose more, so there is no need to change the display text everytime. Since the in-game menu has just line breaks and the internal data has a emdash, i think it makes sense to go with the emdash. → PikaTepig999 19:06, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Okie-dokey, articles have been split and all the relinking is done! I was originally planning to convert the page into a table like story event, villain event, etc. once I finished relinking, but I'm too tired to do it now. Also, one last question—what do we do with the costume event script page? I forget how we handled it for story events. Storm Aurora (talk) 03:16, 23 April 2024 (UTC)