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That sentence is certainly ambiguous. I know Jolteon is not immune to Elec. type attack both in Gen. I and II (when there's no abilities at all) and when Skill Swap or Gastro Acid is used or the opponent has Mold Breaker (when the effect of its ability is canceled). But one might think BOTH conditions must be satisfied... {{Unsigned|Bbbbbbbbba}}
That sentence is certainly ambiguous. I know Jolteon is not immune to Elec. type attack both in Gen. I and II (when there's no abilities at all) and when Skill Swap or Gastro Acid is used or the opponent has Mold Breaker (when the effect of its ability is canceled). But one might think BOTH conditions must be satisfied... {{Unsigned|Bbbbbbbbba}}
:The comma is used to list things, with the "or" at the start of the third alternative showing that they are alternative cases. If more than one condition needed to be satisfied then either the "or" would need to be replaced by "and" (if all three needed to be satisfied), an "and" would need to be inserted into the sentence somewhere (If just two), or at least one comma would need to be removed (if one and either of the other two). As it is the sentence is both gramatically correct and unambiguous. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|<small>(talk)</small>]] 08:42, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
:The comma is used to list things, with the "or" at the start of the third alternative showing that they are alternative cases. If more than one condition needed to be satisfied then either the "or" would need to be replaced by "and" (if all three needed to be satisfied), an "and" would need to be inserted into the sentence somewhere (If just two), or at least one comma would need to be removed (if one and either of the other two). As it is the sentence is both gramatically correct and unambiguous. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|<small>(talk)</small>]] 08:42, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
::But the first condition reads "In...", and I think that can be a modifier that modifies the whole sentence. If it begins with "If it's in..." then certainly there's nothing ambiguous. Also, I just found out how to sign my comments:) --[[User:Bbbbbbbbba|Bbbbbbbbba]] 10:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

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Perhaps it is worth mentioning in the trivia section that, for Generation I, Jolteon was the only Pokémon who could inflict substantial super-effective damage on a pure Psychic-type while not being weak to the Psychic type itself? This comes from its ability to use Pin Missile. -Timothy

There was Beedrill and Twin Needle. tc26 13:21, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Given that only it and Beedrill could learn it, though... really the point is that Psychic was far too powerful in Gen I. But if you want to mention it (also take care to note how little damage Pin Missile does even when all five hit) go right ahead. And learn to use tildes correctly! Also, TC, Beedrill was weak to Psychic. TTEchidna 13:22, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh yeah, I forgot about the its other type. tc26 13:23, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
You know, Jolteon and Zapdos share almost similar Japanese names. Just thought I'd point that out. User:DarkGiratina 18:19, 31 January, 2009 (UTC)

Ambiguous Sentence

In Generations I and II, if Skill Swap or Gastro Acid is used, or if the opponent has Mold Breaker, the effectiveness of Electric-type moves is ½×.

That sentence is certainly ambiguous. I know Jolteon is not immune to Elec. type attack both in Gen. I and II (when there's no abilities at all) and when Skill Swap or Gastro Acid is used or the opponent has Mold Breaker (when the effect of its ability is canceled). But one might think BOTH conditions must be satisfied... - unsigned comment from Bbbbbbbbba (talkcontribs)

The comma is used to list things, with the "or" at the start of the third alternative showing that they are alternative cases. If more than one condition needed to be satisfied then either the "or" would need to be replaced by "and" (if all three needed to be satisfied), an "and" would need to be inserted into the sentence somewhere (If just two), or at least one comma would need to be removed (if one and either of the other two). As it is the sentence is both gramatically correct and unambiguous. Werdnae (talk) 08:42, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
But the first condition reads "In...", and I think that can be a modifier that modifies the whole sentence. If it begins with "If it's in..." then certainly there's nothing ambiguous. Also, I just found out how to sign my comments:) --Bbbbbbbbba 10:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)