Talk:Sneasel (Pokémon)

Kneazel

Doesn't anyone know about that book called "Magical Creatures and Where to Find Them"? The reason I ask is that one of the creatures mentioned is named Kneazel. I think Kneazel is supposed to be cat-like, but do you think that the name comes from Sneasel or was just a coincidence?-Pokencyclopedia. - unsigned comment from Pokencyclopedia (talk • contribs)

A Google search tells me that a Kneazel is something in Harry Potter... But I am not familiar with those books. --Argy 12:31, 27 August 2005 (CDT)

I read this and also did some research and I found this picture with some info:

thumb|left| This very intelligent cat-like creature can detect the equivocal or not very advisable people. However when a Kneazle sticks to a wizard or a witch, it becomes an excellent pet. Kneazle has a provided fur, large ears, and the tail of a lion. So make out what you want from it... Tesh 15:57, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I think you're kinda reaching if you think that Sneasel and Kneazel are related. Coincidences happen sometimes; hell, look at Jo's Harry Potter and Neil Gaiman's Timothy Hunter. Damn near identical looking teenage boy wizards, published almost on top of each other. So close together that it's impossible for either to have drawn the idea from the other. It's just a simple, happy coincidence. LostDrewid 06:59, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Learnset

Anyone who is more comfortable with Bulbapedia's Manual of Style interested in updating Sneasel's learnset to the current standard? I'd do it, but I'm bad with wiki tables. If no one else does it, I'll give it a shot. LostDrewid 06:59, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Sneasel cannot learn Icy Wind?

Oddly enought, Serebbi stated that Sneasel cannot learn Icy Wind via Platinum move tutor. Is that true? I need to know this before entering Platinum tutors for Sneasel/Weavile. --Gorebyss 16:23, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

not sure, but it learns Icy Wind via level-up anyway. -- Umbee 19:21, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Crystal Backsprite

As you can see, Sneasel's normal Crystal backsprite differs from the Gold and Silver one. The most striking difference is the color but it's been redone slightly apart from that. Think there'd be any way to get that onto Sneasel's sprite table? Darkeiya 10:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Not that I know of... I just think its a little... impossible...--DRAGONBEAST^X 03:43, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

We're going to eventually have to handle it, seeing as FRLG sprites for some are different, such as Wartortle and Venusaur. ^ht14 03:36, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

I like how It's been over a year and we still haven't added a column. Are we ever going to add that 2nd backsprite column or have we abandoned the thought? Malake256 04:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit Request

In the anime Pokedex section. 'Sneasel can retract or extend its claws' - 'Sneasel can extend of retract its claws'. Littlmiget123 14:43, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Grip Claw

Just caught a Sneasel that was holding a Grip Claw. I have no idea what the rate is, but it happened. Someone explore further? Anaphysik 02:53, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

So, several other sites list it as 50%... added. Anaphysik 02:55, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Rare in Platinum?

Judging by the encounter rates, Sneasel only seems rare in Platinum in Lake Acuity and Snowpoint Temple, which is only two of the places it is available in. In the other three, it is equal or greater to its rate in Diamond and Pearl, with the exception of Route 217 at night. I think labeling it as common seems more appropriate.--Grammernatzi 09:28, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Mangaman13 (talk) 22:35, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Icicle Crash egg move

I don't know if Icicle Crash was a possible egg move in XY, but I'm breeding a Sneasel in ORAS with a Beartic and Icicle Crash is DEFINITELY not an egg move in ORAS. Someone should check to see if it is an egg move in XY and fix the list accordingly. Mangaman13 (talk) 22:35, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

It's definitely an Egg move in XY, I've bred Sneasel with Icicle Crash before. But it should also be an Egg move in ORAS, there's no reason for it not to be. Are you positive that the Beartic you're breeding Sneasel with actually knows Icicle Crash? AGGRON989 04:04, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I took it out of the daycare, and it still knew icicle crash. Mangaman13 (talk) 13:09, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

I just tried breeding the Icicle Crash on in XY, and it still didn't work Mangaman13 (talk) 17:09, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Check this, maybe it will help explain why the move isn't getting passed down. I guarantee you that it's an Egg move in XY, so I'm not sure what the problem might be. AGGRON989 17:17, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

I figured it out. The mother already knew four egg moves, so those took precedence over the Icicle Crash egg move from Beartic. Mangaman13 (talk) 21:42, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Good deal. I only saw this now, and I know I traded a Sneasel with Icicle Crash bred on it that later bred a Shiny offspring, so I could confirm it's definitely in XY. I think OR/AS only added a few Egg Moves, not take any away. CycloneGU (talk) 22:10, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Japanese sprite differences?

Not sure if that should remain there; I can't visually see any differences between Gold and Silver localized vs. Japanese. --SneaselSawashiro (talk) 05:35, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Actually, the iris is different.--電禅Den Zen 06:43, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Beta Sneasel color palette

I don't know where things stand on the most recent beta leak, but it stuck out to me that the beta Sneasel's sprite [1] has the exact same color palette as the weird Gold/Silver sprites. If this stuff is confirmed in some way and cleared to be added to articles, that should be added to the Trivia section or something. -- EnosShayrem_talk 08:37, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Cat Kamaitachi

Just learned that there's a Yokai Watch character—Kaibyou Kamaitachi—that's also part cat and part kamaitachi. Does anyone know if there are any legends of cats transforming into kamaitachi, or is this just a coincidence? Icycatelf (talk) 16:09, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Quadruple weakness

Phrasing it as 'quadruple' simply doesn't make sense. 1x is normal damage, 2x is weakness once, 4x weakness twice, i.e. dual. You are adding weakness (multiplying by 2) twice. The value of the weakness multipler is not relevant, what is linguistically being referred to is the number of times a multipler is added (the exponent), not the total damage multiplier. If it was quadruple, that would mean either that you consider 1x to be weakness, 2x would be dual weakness, 1/2x would be half weakness or dual resistance, etc. which doesn't sound right, or it would mean that you are adding weakness four times, resulting in 16x damage, which obviously isn't the case. WOLKsite (talk) 12:54, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

To try and phrase this more coherently:

What applying weakness means is to add the weakness multiplier (in this case x2), and the same applies to resistance (x½). This multiplier could be anything however; the sentence structure would remain the same. What having a weakness, double weakness, or quadruple weakness implies, linguistically, is how many times this multiplier is added. What this phrasing does not entail is the total effectiveness multiplier that is yielded after adding resistances and weaknesses.

In mathematical terms, this refers to the exponent of the weakness, weakness², where weakness just so happens to also be 2 - these are two functionally seperate values and should not be confused for one another. The exponent denotes how many times the multiplier is added.

If we have a mono-type Fire Pokémon, such as Flareon, though the total effectiveness of water would be x2, I think we can all agree that we would phrase it as Flareon having a (singular) weakness, not double weakness.

Basically, there are two main ways to phrase this effectiveness:

Double resistance (¼x), resistance (½x), normal (1x), weakness (2x), and double weakness (4x)

or

¼x effectiveness, ½x effectiveness, 1x effectivness, 2x effectiveness, and 4x effectiveness

The first refers to the number of times the weakness/resistance multiplier is added, the latter refers to the total effectiveness multiplier. Quadruple weakness would be a multipler of 2⁴ = 16. I hope this explaination makes sense. WOLKsite (talk) 16:24, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Referring to the total effectiveness also doesn't hold true due to Legends: Arceus, there double weakness is instead 2.5 and double resistance is 0.4. WOLKsite (talk) 16:35, 28 June 2022 (UTC)