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:I'm actually rather angry that it as yet to be released on DVD. The movie's site seems to be in the works of being taken down, seeing as how the links around Arceus all say "name button" and they don't direct you to anywhere. --'''[[User:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CC99CC">いぬ</span>]][[User talk:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">みみ</span>]]''' 01:55, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
:I'm actually rather angry that it as yet to be released on DVD. The movie's site seems to be in the works of being taken down, seeing as how the links around Arceus all say "name button" and they don't direct you to anywhere. --'''[[User:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CC99CC">いぬ</span>]][[User talk:InuMimi|<span style="color:#CCCCCC">みみ</span>]]''' 01:55, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's looking as if they don't plan on releasing the dvd in North America. They took "Spring 2010" off the movie site and says nothing about a DVD release - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">'''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#00027F">1992</b>]]'''</span> 20:19, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


== Australian DVD ==
== Australian DVD ==


Does anyone here happen to have the Australian DVD of this movie? I wonder if it has any bonus features (the Movie 11 DVD didn't, AFAIK). --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Does anyone here happen to have the Australian DVD of this movie? I wonder if it has any bonus features (the Movie 11 DVD didn't, AFAIK). --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
:No special features, but it does have a menu with scene selection and audio/subtitle options, which the DVDs for movies 9, 10 and 11 didn't have. [[User:Thingamajig257|Thingamajig257]] 23:30, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
== release date for the North American DVD? ==
If you do a google search for "Arceus and the jewel of life fall 2010", the first two results (Wikipedia and a Facebook page) say it is to be released in North America in Fall 2010. What do you guys think. Should we add it or wait for a more clear source? - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">'''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#00027F">1992</b>]]'''</span> 23:38, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's Wikipedia and Facebook.  I'm pretty damn sure we should wait for more reliable sources.  <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 23:41, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
::I was thinking the same. I might go over to Wikipedia and question where they got this and why it has not been removed (if there is no source for it that is). - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">'''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#00027F">1992</b>]]'''</span> 23:53, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
== Swedish and Danish DVD Release ==
Egmont Kärnan AB that makes the Official Pokémon Magazines in Denmark & Sweden stated that Pokémon Movie 12 would be released in Sweden and Denmark on DVD in 2010. But it still remains unreleased. Myself has the bought swedish versions of Pokémon Movie 1 up to 7 and has never heard about anyone that owns Movie 8 to 13 in swedish on rather VHS or DVD. Movie 10 & 11 has been aired on Disney XD.
There have been many times Egmont Kärnan AB has told us untrue things ...
--TB 16:22, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
== Possible Error ==
In the opening, the narrator says that Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina are at war, and there is a shot that shows Palkia and Dialga battling. But then, later in the movie, Palkia appears to save Dialga from the water funnel without the need for Sheena to summon it. Is this a possible error in the movie? ([[User:Charizard101|Charizard101]] 16:58, 12 February 2012 (UTC))
== Feedback on possible error ==
This is a bit of a stretch and it could be a bit of misunderstanding on my part, but is something that just came to mind. On the Poké Ball article, it says,<blockquote>"Other wireless capabilities of Poké Balls are shown in Destiny Deoxys, as when the electricity of the city is down, Audrey could not release her Masquerain from the Poké Ball, claiming that the "Poké Ball Management System" was no longer working without power."</blockquote>
Well, when the main characters go back in time, the Poké Ball Management System does not exist which implies that there is no way that any of the characters should be able to release any of their Pokémon. Would any of your consider this an error if this is actually correct? - <span style="background:#96EAFF;border: 1px solid#0000FF">''[[User:Vhayes1992|<b style="color:#FF0000">Vhayes</b>]]<small><sup style="color:#00027F">1992</sup></small>''</span> 23:44, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
:Eehh...personally, I call it a plot device. It's something that is neither confirmed, or unconfirmed that is just tweaked so it goes along with the story. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 23:55, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
== One last crop of VA errors ==
"Evelyn Lantto" is amongst the names credited for this movie. It has since become common knowledge that "Evelyn Lanto" is the same person as Carrie Keranen. What's more, Keranen regularly cites having played this character on her profile for various con appearances (such as [https://guidebook.com/guide/28755/poi/2517771/ this] one for Ikkicon 2015. Furthermore, the name "Evelyn Lanto" has caused confusion with Rebecca Soler (the actress currently attached to Sheena) in the past in ''Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's'' if edpen's comment on [http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Rebecca-Soler/ this] page is anything to go by. Irregardless Lanto is credited for the movie, not Soler, as seen below.
Additionally, it should be noted that of all the names credited, "Bella Hudson" is not one of them. Whereas Kato has been personally stated by Tom Wayland to be played by him, looking through Kiko's revision history reveals no such confirmation. I am inclined to say that this role was also performed by Lantto, but I cannot confirm this until I hear back from her (I also asked her about Julie and Nancy, so hopefully we get some closure on those, too).
http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w680/rosebr13/M12-2_zps7062ebb8.jpg<br>
"Featuring" (M12 credits [part 2/2]) [NOTE: "Starring" [part 1/2] is the core cast of Sarah Natochenny, Michele Knotz, Emily Jenness, Billy Beach, Kayzie Rogers, Bill Rogers, Rodger Parsons, Ikue Ohtani (Pikachu)] [[User:Rosebr10|Rosebr10]] ([[User talk:Rosebr10|talk]]) 20:41, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
:Whilst I won't argue you argument over Kiko's VA or your edit to the page (since you did use a acceptable source), but it still appears you are relying on credits. Take a look at the credits, does it say [Voice Actor] as [name]? No it doesn't. And process of elimination is still playing by ear. So if you were to ever return here again, do not cite credits as source, ever. Thank you.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 04:04, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

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Previous discussion

  • Archive 1: 14 December 2008 - 7 December 2009

Arceus Types?

Hello, I'm new here and I was just wondering why did the movie say there were only 15/16 plates, when there are 18 (including the ???-Type) types. Is it a mistake. If it is, shouldn't be in the Trivia section? Thanks for clearing this up. --Flying 03:51, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

There are only 16 plates total because there is no ??? plate or normal plate. the ??? type doesnt actually have anything in it except the move curse which affects ghost and other types differently which is why it is a ??? type.Darkcloud1111 16:35, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, than, what happen to the 17th plate? Flying 04:45, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

there isn't a 17th plate, there are only 16 plates. there isnt a normal type plate because Arceus is a normal type when not holding a plate, thus extinguishing the need for a normal plate. ??? isnt an actual type so it doesnt have a plate. look at the page on plates and see for yourself - unsigned comment from Darkcloud1111 (talkcontribs)

dedicated to maddie?

Just want to make sure if it's true or not because I saw on a site saying Arceus and the Jewel of Life was dedicated to her. Don't know why they would dedicate it to her if it was true. here's the link http://www.instantcast.com/AllStars/Maddie_Blaustein/Article/ --Midnight Blue 04:46, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

At the bottom of the site, they say that they copied and pasted from here, and everyone knows that anyone can edit wikipedia. Also, there is no source for that statement so... It's up to you, I guess, to decide it's validity. - Vhayes1992 20:41, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
The DVD'll probably tell all anyway...--Shiningpikablu252 20:47, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
On that note, don't you think at least they would put it in small white text at the end of the movie "Dedicated to Maddie Blaustein 1960 - 2008" or put it on the DVD cover. There is nothing out there that says this (other than wikipedia) - Vhayes1992 20:55, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Well, i was just asking to see if anyone else knew about it. But it's most likely not ture, unless I'm wrong.--Midnight Blue 02:03, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Arceus misquotes?

When Arceus first appears in the present, it says "Not even Magical Creatures should be forgiven for siding with the humans." However, once everyone returns from the past, it says that the land was made better by "people and Pokemon alike". Sure, a lot of stuff happened in the past, like Ash and Dawn explaining to Damos that Magical Creatures are called Pokemon in the future, but Arceus never heard that. There's no way it could know that Pokemon are called Pokemon, when just a few moments ago, it called them Magical Creatures. Should this be added to the errors? --Skulblaka Shurtugal 03:53, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

I think Ash said it to Arceus once... CuboneKing 03:47, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
AFAIR, Damos was informed about it by the heroes and Arceus saw into his heart. So he knows. Tenno Seremel 08:07, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I haven't seen the movie but

They seriously call it silver water? It steams and hardens on impact and it's "silver water," not some kind of molten metal?—Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 09:08, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Yep, Marcus calls it Silver Water. My guess is that it is called that in an attempt to remind the audience they are in the past - people in ancient times probably wouldn't have called it molten silver, they would have called it silver water, as it is silver which acts like water. Werdnae (talk) 09:26, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

DVD release date

Okay, so it's been released in Australia aleady, but when is it coming to the US? There's nothing anywhere about it, except on the Pokémon website, where it says "Spring 2010". Spring has come and gone. Is it possible the DVD just won't be released?--Skulblaka Shurtugal 20:11, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm actually rather angry that it as yet to be released on DVD. The movie's site seems to be in the works of being taken down, seeing as how the links around Arceus all say "name button" and they don't direct you to anywhere. --いぬみみ 01:55, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
It's looking as if they don't plan on releasing the dvd in North America. They took "Spring 2010" off the movie site and says nothing about a DVD release - Vhayes1992 20:19, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Australian DVD

Does anyone here happen to have the Australian DVD of this movie? I wonder if it has any bonus features (the Movie 11 DVD didn't, AFAIK). --Maxim 11:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

No special features, but it does have a menu with scene selection and audio/subtitle options, which the DVDs for movies 9, 10 and 11 didn't have. Thingamajig257 23:30, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

release date for the North American DVD?

If you do a google search for "Arceus and the jewel of life fall 2010", the first two results (Wikipedia and a Facebook page) say it is to be released in North America in Fall 2010. What do you guys think. Should we add it or wait for a more clear source? - Vhayes1992 23:38, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

It's Wikipedia and Facebook. I'm pretty damn sure we should wait for more reliable sources. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 23:41, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
I was thinking the same. I might go over to Wikipedia and question where they got this and why it has not been removed (if there is no source for it that is). - Vhayes1992 23:53, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Swedish and Danish DVD Release

Egmont Kärnan AB that makes the Official Pokémon Magazines in Denmark & Sweden stated that Pokémon Movie 12 would be released in Sweden and Denmark on DVD in 2010. But it still remains unreleased. Myself has the bought swedish versions of Pokémon Movie 1 up to 7 and has never heard about anyone that owns Movie 8 to 13 in swedish on rather VHS or DVD. Movie 10 & 11 has been aired on Disney XD.

There have been many times Egmont Kärnan AB has told us untrue things ... --TB 16:22, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Possible Error

In the opening, the narrator says that Palkia, Dialga, and Giratina are at war, and there is a shot that shows Palkia and Dialga battling. But then, later in the movie, Palkia appears to save Dialga from the water funnel without the need for Sheena to summon it. Is this a possible error in the movie? (Charizard101 16:58, 12 February 2012 (UTC))

Feedback on possible error

This is a bit of a stretch and it could be a bit of misunderstanding on my part, but is something that just came to mind. On the Poké Ball article, it says,

"Other wireless capabilities of Poké Balls are shown in Destiny Deoxys, as when the electricity of the city is down, Audrey could not release her Masquerain from the Poké Ball, claiming that the "Poké Ball Management System" was no longer working without power."

Well, when the main characters go back in time, the Poké Ball Management System does not exist which implies that there is no way that any of the characters should be able to release any of their Pokémon. Would any of your consider this an error if this is actually correct? - Vhayes1992 23:44, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Eehh...personally, I call it a plot device. It's something that is neither confirmed, or unconfirmed that is just tweaked so it goes along with the story. Jo the Marten ಠ_ಠ 23:55, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

One last crop of VA errors

"Evelyn Lantto" is amongst the names credited for this movie. It has since become common knowledge that "Evelyn Lanto" is the same person as Carrie Keranen. What's more, Keranen regularly cites having played this character on her profile for various con appearances (such as this one for Ikkicon 2015. Furthermore, the name "Evelyn Lanto" has caused confusion with Rebecca Soler (the actress currently attached to Sheena) in the past in Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's if edpen's comment on this page is anything to go by. Irregardless Lanto is credited for the movie, not Soler, as seen below.

Additionally, it should be noted that of all the names credited, "Bella Hudson" is not one of them. Whereas Kato has been personally stated by Tom Wayland to be played by him, looking through Kiko's revision history reveals no such confirmation. I am inclined to say that this role was also performed by Lantto, but I cannot confirm this until I hear back from her (I also asked her about Julie and Nancy, so hopefully we get some closure on those, too).

M12-2_zps7062ebb8.jpg
"Featuring" (M12 credits [part 2/2]) [NOTE: "Starring" [part 1/2] is the core cast of Sarah Natochenny, Michele Knotz, Emily Jenness, Billy Beach, Kayzie Rogers, Bill Rogers, Rodger Parsons, Ikue Ohtani (Pikachu)] Rosebr10 (talk) 20:41, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Whilst I won't argue you argument over Kiko's VA or your edit to the page (since you did use a acceptable source), but it still appears you are relying on credits. Take a look at the credits, does it say [Voice Actor] as [name]? No it doesn't. And process of elimination is still playing by ear. So if you were to ever return here again, do not cite credits as source, ever. Thank you.--ForceFire 04:04, 17 February 2015 (UTC)