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To [[EP006]]? Munna and Clefairy both evolve by Moon Stone, Seymour could be similar to Makomo... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:51, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | To [[EP006]]? Munna and Clefairy both evolve by Moon Stone, Seymour could be similar to Makomo... '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:51, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
: | :Has it been confirmed that a main character's Pokémon that they randomly catch off-screen appears, because that happened in Clefairy and the Moon Stone? It's [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 21:52, 11 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
== What happenened with the Gym Battle? == | |||
I watched BW005 yesterday and the gym battle wasn't over. Does that mean that the battle is just going to be assumed to be won by Ash? This is a serious talking point. What happens to the battle? --[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 04:05, 17 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:It should be ending in this episode, but we need to wait for it to air. :V '''<span style="font-family: Verdana;">~ [[User:Sol|<span style="color:#0080ff;">sol</span>]][[User talk:Sol|<span style="color:#4090ff;">ar</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|<span style="color:#a8d3ff;">is</span>]]</span>''' 04:08, 17 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Missing Poké Ball == | |||
In the shots where Ash was giving his Pokémon to Nurse Joy to be healed, he was missing a Poké Ball, as there was only two in the tray. Did he just decide to keep what I am thinking has to be Mamepato's Poké Ball, since it did not battle, and thus did not need to be healed? Or is this a true error? I added it to the errors section, but you are free to remove it, if it is not. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|<span style="color:blue">JediKnight</span>]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|<span style="color:green">DTV</span>]] 14:08, 21 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:He probably didn't heal Mamepato, like you said. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 19:24, 21 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::AFAIK, isn't that the first time that Ash has healed only part of his party, rather than everybody? Other than when just Pikachu needed to be healed, I mean. Is that notable trivia? Just curious. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|<span style="color:blue">JediKnight</span>]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|<span style="color:green">DTV</span>]] 19:27, 21 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Kibago's Dream == | |||
I think that Kibago's dream revealing that it wants to evolve to its final form is a very major event, and it was wrong to remove it from the major events section. I could be wrong, but I do not think so. It deals with the future evolution of a Pokémon that belongs to a main character, someone who is a member of Ash's party (Iris). What about that is not a major event? I fail to understand. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|<span style="color:blue">JediKnight</span>]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|<span style="color:green">DTV</span>]] 23:28, 22 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Having a dream about evolving is not a major event. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:58, 22 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Not to mention it doesn't confirm Kibago evolve at all. --[[User:HoennMaster|<font color="blue">Hoenn</font>]][[User talk:HoennMaster|<font color="green">Master</font>]] 00:26, 23 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
: I fail to see how a Pokemon refusing to evolve is more notable than this, since they're along same lines. [[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 00:07, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:: Oops I forgot this part: And by that any argument for noting a Pokemon's refusal to evolve can be applied to this situation just as equally. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 00:10, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::It comes down to this, essentially (I had to have this explained to me by {{u|Kenji-girl|KG}} the other day). Kibago's dream does not really indicate anything about whether or not Kibago is '''''actually''''' going to evolve or not. The difference between this event and a Pokémon, such as {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}} or {{AP|Pikachu}}, refusing to evolve, is that that is an actual conscious choice, on the part of the Pokémon, and often on the part of the trainer, not to evolve. Here, Kibago is saying that it '''''wants''''' to evolve, but that is not necessarily saying that it '''''will''''' ever evolve. See the difference? That is how the argument applies here. Feel free to ask me on my talkpage if you are still confused. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|<span style="color:blue">JediKnight</span>]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|<span style="color:green">DTV</span>]] 00:20, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::: I can see that argument, the only problem is, Kibago is the first one to say that it wants to evolve. This is the first situation of this particular kind. Will there be a chance it won't evolve? Sure why not, but are the Pokemon saying they don't want to evolve, is their decision permanent? Could they possibly change their minds later and say "Hey, sure, why not, before I just wasn't ready, but I think I want to take that leap." But still if that's the argument then I guess I'm fine with it, even though I don't see much of a difference between the two situations since neither situation/decision is exactly permanent unlike evolution. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 00:34, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::: Oh right, I forgot Ash's Caterpie wanted to evolve and that one Bagon in Hoenn that wanted to fly and evolving into Salamence was going to do that and ended up evolving to Shelgon. Well then what I truly meant is, Pokemon usually evolve without any actual say on whether or not they want to. I mean obviously they do want to since they do evolve, but it should still be notable when a Pokemon wants to evolve, since like refusing to evolve, it doesn't happen often enough for it not to be notable. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 00:41, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Kibago's Dream and Game Evolution == | |||
I have had instances where I have cancelled a Pokemon's evolution and a couple levels later, it wants to evolve. Maybe Kibago is like that. Kibago wants to evolve, it just needs to be fully ready for it.--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 15:57, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Do you mean that it starts to evolve again or literally '''wants''' to evolve?----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">DENNOU</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ZENSHI</font>]] 16:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
It starts to evolve again.--[[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 21:04, 27 October 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Games =/= Anime. Pokémon in games are programmed to evolve when the reach their level. If you delay it, then they'll just attempt to evolve again at the next level unless they are holding an Everstone. It's not that they want to do it. They are programed that way. Evolution in anime is mainly the Pokémon's choice in contrast to the games where it is the Trainer's choice. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 21:15, 27 October 2010 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 21:15, 27 October 2010
Similarities
To EP006? Munna and Clefairy both evolve by Moon Stone, Seymour could be similar to Makomo... TTEchidna 19:51, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
- Has it been confirmed that a main character's Pokémon that they randomly catch off-screen appears, because that happened in Clefairy and the Moon Stone? It's Turtwig A! My talk or wiki edits 21:52, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
What happenened with the Gym Battle?
I watched BW005 yesterday and the gym battle wasn't over. Does that mean that the battle is just going to be assumed to be won by Ash? This is a serious talking point. What happens to the battle? --Pokemon26 04:05, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- It should be ending in this episode, but we need to wait for it to air. :V ~ solaris 04:08, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
Missing Poké Ball
In the shots where Ash was giving his Pokémon to Nurse Joy to be healed, he was missing a Poké Ball, as there was only two in the tray. Did he just decide to keep what I am thinking has to be Mamepato's Poké Ball, since it did not battle, and thus did not need to be healed? Or is this a true error? I added it to the errors section, but you are free to remove it, if it is not. --JediKnightDTV 14:08, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- He probably didn't heal Mamepato, like you said. --ケンジのガール 19:24, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
- AFAIK, isn't that the first time that Ash has healed only part of his party, rather than everybody? Other than when just Pikachu needed to be healed, I mean. Is that notable trivia? Just curious. --JediKnightDTV 19:27, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Kibago's Dream
I think that Kibago's dream revealing that it wants to evolve to its final form is a very major event, and it was wrong to remove it from the major events section. I could be wrong, but I do not think so. It deals with the future evolution of a Pokémon that belongs to a main character, someone who is a member of Ash's party (Iris). What about that is not a major event? I fail to understand. --JediKnightDTV 23:28, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- Having a dream about evolving is not a major event. --ケンジのガール 23:58, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
- I fail to see how a Pokemon refusing to evolve is more notable than this, since they're along same lines. Dman dustin 00:07, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Oops I forgot this part: And by that any argument for noting a Pokemon's refusal to evolve can be applied to this situation just as equally. --Dman dustin 00:10, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- It comes down to this, essentially (I had to have this explained to me by KG the other day). Kibago's dream does not really indicate anything about whether or not Kibago is actually going to evolve or not. The difference between this event and a Pokémon, such as Piplup or Pikachu, refusing to evolve, is that that is an actual conscious choice, on the part of the Pokémon, and often on the part of the trainer, not to evolve. Here, Kibago is saying that it wants to evolve, but that is not necessarily saying that it will ever evolve. See the difference? That is how the argument applies here. Feel free to ask me on my talkpage if you are still confused. --JediKnightDTV 00:20, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- I can see that argument, the only problem is, Kibago is the first one to say that it wants to evolve. This is the first situation of this particular kind. Will there be a chance it won't evolve? Sure why not, but are the Pokemon saying they don't want to evolve, is their decision permanent? Could they possibly change their minds later and say "Hey, sure, why not, before I just wasn't ready, but I think I want to take that leap." But still if that's the argument then I guess I'm fine with it, even though I don't see much of a difference between the two situations since neither situation/decision is exactly permanent unlike evolution. --Dman dustin 00:34, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Oh right, I forgot Ash's Caterpie wanted to evolve and that one Bagon in Hoenn that wanted to fly and evolving into Salamence was going to do that and ended up evolving to Shelgon. Well then what I truly meant is, Pokemon usually evolve without any actual say on whether or not they want to. I mean obviously they do want to since they do evolve, but it should still be notable when a Pokemon wants to evolve, since like refusing to evolve, it doesn't happen often enough for it not to be notable. --Dman dustin 00:41, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- I can see that argument, the only problem is, Kibago is the first one to say that it wants to evolve. This is the first situation of this particular kind. Will there be a chance it won't evolve? Sure why not, but are the Pokemon saying they don't want to evolve, is their decision permanent? Could they possibly change their minds later and say "Hey, sure, why not, before I just wasn't ready, but I think I want to take that leap." But still if that's the argument then I guess I'm fine with it, even though I don't see much of a difference between the two situations since neither situation/decision is exactly permanent unlike evolution. --Dman dustin 00:34, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- It comes down to this, essentially (I had to have this explained to me by KG the other day). Kibago's dream does not really indicate anything about whether or not Kibago is actually going to evolve or not. The difference between this event and a Pokémon, such as Piplup or Pikachu, refusing to evolve, is that that is an actual conscious choice, on the part of the Pokémon, and often on the part of the trainer, not to evolve. Here, Kibago is saying that it wants to evolve, but that is not necessarily saying that it will ever evolve. See the difference? That is how the argument applies here. Feel free to ask me on my talkpage if you are still confused. --JediKnightDTV 00:20, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Oops I forgot this part: And by that any argument for noting a Pokemon's refusal to evolve can be applied to this situation just as equally. --Dman dustin 00:10, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Kibago's Dream and Game Evolution
I have had instances where I have cancelled a Pokemon's evolution and a couple levels later, it wants to evolve. Maybe Kibago is like that. Kibago wants to evolve, it just needs to be fully ready for it.--Pokemon26 15:57, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Do you mean that it starts to evolve again or literally wants to evolve?----無限の知性 ◎ DENNOU◆ZENSHI 16:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
It starts to evolve again.--Pokemon26 21:04, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
- Games =/= Anime. Pokémon in games are programmed to evolve when the reach their level. If you delay it, then they'll just attempt to evolve again at the next level unless they are holding an Everstone. It's not that they want to do it. They are programed that way. Evolution in anime is mainly the Pokémon's choice in contrast to the games where it is the Trainer's choice. --ケンジのガール 21:15, 27 October 2010 (UTC)