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::Definitely. Just look at the Pokémon which learn it by level up—all of them are musically-oriented. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 11:53, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | ::Definitely. Just look at the Pokémon which learn it by level up—all of them are musically-oriented. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] 11:53, 7 October 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Difference between Canon and {{m|Echo Voice}} == | == Difference between Canon and {{m|Echoed Voice|Echo Voice}} == | ||
I'm confused as to what the difference is between the moves Canon and Echo Voice, if there is any besides base power. Can someone please clarify this?--[[User:RiverAura|<font color="#00CCFF">River</font>]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|<font color="#00FFCC">Aura</font>]] 02:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC) | I'm confused as to what the difference is between the moves Canon and Echo Voice, if there is any besides base power. Can someone please clarify this?--[[User:RiverAura|<font color="#00CCFF">River</font>]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|<font color="#00FFCC">Aura</font>]] 02:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
:The biggest difference I can find is the turn order clause--if one Pokémon on your team uses Canon and you have your other Pokémon queued up to use it as well, the slower Pokémon will go after the fastest Pokémon on your side regardless of turn order. This means it should ignore statuses like paralysis and Trick Room, which change speed or turn order, respectively. [[User:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:red">Phantom</span>]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:black">Junkie</span>]] 16:29, 24 January 2011 (UTC) | :The biggest difference I can find is the turn order clause--if one Pokémon on your team uses Canon and you have your other Pokémon queued up to use it as well, the slower Pokémon will go after the fastest Pokémon on your side regardless of turn order. This means it should ignore statuses like paralysis and Trick Room, which change speed or turn order, respectively. [[User:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:red">Phantom</span>]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:black">Junkie</span>]] 16:29, 24 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
::The power of Canon only doubles once and when it is used again the next turn its power will start at 60 again, whilst echo voice is more like Fury Cutter and will increase by 40 every turn it is used. [[User:Pikiwyn|<font color="#d0000d" face="chiller">'''Pikiwyn'''</font>]] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt><sup>'''''<font color="black">talk</font>'''''</sup></tt>]] 17:11, 24 January 2011 (UTC) | |||
== So basically == | |||
In a triple battle with three normal type pokemon, you give the fastest one a choice scarf and the other two choice specs, and then have all of them spam this, you can deal 720 power to each enemy per turn? | |||
(120 + (120 * specs) + (120 * specs)) * STAB | |||
--[[User:Pyritie|Pyritie]] 02:03, 8 February 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Which pokemon can learn this? == | |||
I only ask because the picture shows a Mareep and Mareep isn't in the list for Pokemon that can learn it. Also, Swoobat in the anime pictures. And there are none in the TM list [[User:Theviolinkid|Theviolinkid]] 16:24, 7 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
:''"All Pokémon that can learn TMs in Generation V can learn Round."'' [[User:Focus58|<font color="dark blue">Focus</font>]][[User talk:Focus58|<font color="olive">58</font>]] 16:33, 7 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
== This move got retconned you guys == | |||
Just thought I'd mention that Round got retconned to Fairy-type in X and Y. There was a typo in-game that made it appear to be Normal-type, but it's actually Fairy-type.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 01:07, 30 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
:This is incorrect. I just used it against a Roggenrolla to test, and it was not very effective. That means it could be Normal, Flying, Poison, or Fire. But not Fairy. And considering it was Normal last generation, and appears to be Normal this generation...anyway, I'll try to confirm further. --[[User:WyndFox|<span>Wynd</span>]] [[User talk:WyndFox|<span>Fox</span>]] 03:01, 30 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Okay, it also doesn't affect Golett. That means it's Normal, which was probably obvious to everyone from the start. Oh well. --[[User:WyndFox|<span>Wynd</span>]] [[User talk:WyndFox|<span>Fox</span>]] 03:12, 30 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::I swear it did...Oh well, we all make mistakes. There was a voice-based move that had a typo, I'm sure of it...--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 22:48, 30 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::Don't worry about it. {{m|Echo Voice}} is pretty similar, but it sounds even less like a Fairy move than this one. If you figure out which one, make sure to post it on the talk page. Thanks for the heads up, though, even if you were mistaken. --[[User:WyndFox|<span>Wynd</span>]] [[User talk:WyndFox|<span>Fox</span>]] 05:06, 31 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
::::Were you facing Sylveon or Mega Gardevoir? The ability Pixilate will make normal type moves count as fairy type moves when used by that pokemon. Similarly, Amaura's Refrigerate makes normal type moves count as ice. (I was very confused for a moment when Echoed Voice hit my Aegislash in Le Wow...) [[User:Shirum|Shirum]] ([[User talk:Shirum|talk]]) 21:34, 8 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Description is unclear == | |||
As of now the page states that Round's damage "will double in power to 120 if used consecutively by an ally". For starters, shouldn't it be written "simultaneously" if the move must be selected in the same turn? But most importantly, do both pokémon get a 120 power Round or is it only the last one to move that does?--[[User:Tom0027|Tom0027]] ([[User talk:Tom0027|talk]]) 03:58, 22 January 2016 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 03:58, 22 January 2016
You guys sure "Cannon" isn't a better translation...Malake256 06:01, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- I believe it means "canon" as in the musical term - if i may quote dictionary.com: "consistent, note-for-note imitation of one melodic line by another, in which the second line starts after the first." --ZestyCactus 06:26, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- Definitely. Just look at the Pokémon which learn it by level up—all of them are musically-oriented. --AndyPKMN 11:53, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Difference between Canon and Echo Voice
I'm confused as to what the difference is between the moves Canon and Echo Voice, if there is any besides base power. Can someone please clarify this?--RiverAura 02:59, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- The biggest difference I can find is the turn order clause--if one Pokémon on your team uses Canon and you have your other Pokémon queued up to use it as well, the slower Pokémon will go after the fastest Pokémon on your side regardless of turn order. This means it should ignore statuses like paralysis and Trick Room, which change speed or turn order, respectively. Phantom♫Junkie 16:29, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
So basically
In a triple battle with three normal type pokemon, you give the fastest one a choice scarf and the other two choice specs, and then have all of them spam this, you can deal 720 power to each enemy per turn? (120 + (120 * specs) + (120 * specs)) * STAB --Pyritie 02:03, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Which pokemon can learn this?
I only ask because the picture shows a Mareep and Mareep isn't in the list for Pokemon that can learn it. Also, Swoobat in the anime pictures. And there are none in the TM list Theviolinkid 16:24, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
This move got retconned you guys
Just thought I'd mention that Round got retconned to Fairy-type in X and Y. There was a typo in-game that made it appear to be Normal-type, but it's actually Fairy-type.--BigBadBatter (talk) 01:07, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
- This is incorrect. I just used it against a Roggenrolla to test, and it was not very effective. That means it could be Normal, Flying, Poison, or Fire. But not Fairy. And considering it was Normal last generation, and appears to be Normal this generation...anyway, I'll try to confirm further. --Wynd Fox 03:01, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, it also doesn't affect Golett. That means it's Normal, which was probably obvious to everyone from the start. Oh well. --Wynd Fox 03:12, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
- I swear it did...Oh well, we all make mistakes. There was a voice-based move that had a typo, I'm sure of it...--BigBadBatter (talk) 22:48, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
- Don't worry about it. Echo Voice is pretty similar, but it sounds even less like a Fairy move than this one. If you figure out which one, make sure to post it on the talk page. Thanks for the heads up, though, even if you were mistaken. --Wynd Fox 05:06, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
- Were you facing Sylveon or Mega Gardevoir? The ability Pixilate will make normal type moves count as fairy type moves when used by that pokemon. Similarly, Amaura's Refrigerate makes normal type moves count as ice. (I was very confused for a moment when Echoed Voice hit my Aegislash in Le Wow...) Shirum (talk) 21:34, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
- I swear it did...Oh well, we all make mistakes. There was a voice-based move that had a typo, I'm sure of it...--BigBadBatter (talk) 22:48, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, it also doesn't affect Golett. That means it's Normal, which was probably obvious to everyone from the start. Oh well. --Wynd Fox 03:12, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Description is unclear
As of now the page states that Round's damage "will double in power to 120 if used consecutively by an ally". For starters, shouldn't it be written "simultaneously" if the move must be selected in the same turn? But most importantly, do both pokémon get a 120 power Round or is it only the last one to move that does?--Tom0027 (talk) 03:58, 22 January 2016 (UTC)