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==Suggested Section== | |||
''Note: This applies for all abilities.'' | ''Note: This applies for all abilities.'' | ||
I think it would be a good idea if we had an extra section like: '''Out of Battle''' or something similar that is reworded. Then we could seperate the text instead of having a large block to read. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 17:43, 21 September 2007 (UTC) | I think it would be a good idea if we had an extra section like: '''Out of Battle''' or something similar that is reworded. Then we could seperate the text instead of having a large block to read. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 17:43, 21 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
==Shadow Force== | |||
No Guard eliminates the immunity granted by Shadow Force. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:04, 29 September 2008 (UTC) | No Guard eliminates the immunity granted by Shadow Force. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:04, 29 September 2008 (UTC) | ||
Does this ability eliminate {{t|Ghost|immunities}}? | ==Immunities== | ||
Does this ability eliminate {{t|Ghost|immunities}}? {{unsigned|Sk8torchic}} | |||
==OHKO== | |||
Does no Guard allow OHKO attacks to hit the opponent every time? Obviously there's currently no way to have this happen, but if a Machamp with no guard knew sheer cold, could it theoretically always hit the opponent?--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 21:51, 14 September 2009 (UTC) | Does no Guard allow OHKO attacks to hit the opponent every time? Obviously there's currently no way to have this happen, but if a Machamp with no guard knew sheer cold, could it theoretically always hit the opponent?--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 21:51, 14 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Provided the other conditions are met (levels or speed or whatever), then I see no theoretical problem. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 21:59, 14 September 2009 (UTC) | :Provided the other conditions are met (levels or speed or whatever), then I see no theoretical problem. —'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 21:59, 14 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Yeah, it does. (provided that the user's level is equal to or higher than the target's) Remember, No Guard works oppositely, too—Moves used by the opponent will always hit as well.--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|<font color="black">'''ICE'''</font>]] <small>(User:Cold)<sup>([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])</sup></small> 17:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC) | ::Yeah, it does. (provided that the user's level is equal to or higher than the target's) Remember, No Guard works oppositely, too—Moves used by the opponent will always hit as well.--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|<font color="black">'''ICE'''</font>]] <small>(User:Cold)<sup>([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]])</sup></small> 17:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
== In-Battle Effects post-Diamond/Pearl == | ==In-Battle Effects post-Diamond/Pearl== | ||
''This does not happen anymore in Platinum or HeartGold/SoulSilver. '' | ''This does not happen anymore in Platinum or HeartGold/SoulSilver. '' | ||
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I'm not sure if it was intended or not, but in D/P in Battle Tower double battles, No Guard Earthquake will hit semi-invulnerable partners, but not levitating partners. I noticed it and would like someone to experiment with that for confirmation WeavilePwns 02:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC) | I'm not sure if it was intended or not, but in D/P in Battle Tower double battles, No Guard Earthquake will hit semi-invulnerable partners, but not levitating partners. I noticed it and would like someone to experiment with that for confirmation WeavilePwns 02:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Evasion Moves == | ==Evasion Moves== | ||
Will a Pokemon with No Guard always hit a Pokemon who has used Double Team or Sand-Attack? {{unsigned|Jdthebud}} | Will a Pokemon with No Guard always hit a Pokemon who has used Double Team or Sand-Attack? {{unsigned|Jdthebud}} | ||
:Always hit means always hit this ability doesn't change accuracy it simply makes the moves always hit —[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] <small>([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])</small>— 09:55, 19 January 2011 (UTC) | :Always hit means always hit this ability doesn't change accuracy it simply makes the moves always hit —[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] <small>([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])</small>— 09:55, 19 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
== Trivia? == | ==Trivia?== | ||
How about some trivia for this ability? | How about some trivia for this ability? | ||
Here's my contribution: If No Guard is in effect, an odd paradoxical scenario emerges in which a Pokémon can use Dig to hit a Pokémon that is currently Flying. (Video proof [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yc74oLM10o here]) [[User:Daltonlaffs|Daltonlaffs]] 23:28, 25 January 2011 (UTC) | Here's my contribution: If No Guard is in effect, an odd paradoxical scenario emerges in which a Pokémon can use Dig to hit a Pokémon that is currently Flying. (Video proof [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yc74oLM10o here]) [[User:Daltonlaffs|Daltonlaffs]] 23:28, 25 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
==Focus Punch?== | |||
Will this ability always ensure that Focus Punch will hit, even if the Pokemon was hit before using it? {{unsigned|ipodboqi}} | |||
:Don't know when exactly this question is from since it's unsigned, but: I would assume not. Being hit before Focus Punch doesn't make the move miss; it makes the user flinch. A Pokémon with No Guard can still flinch no matter what causes it. —[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 21:09, 10 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
== No Guard check for OHKO moves == | |||
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/31517964/ | |||
According to 4chan, No Guard no longer effects OHKO moves, can anyone check this for Gen VII? [[User:Trainer Yusuf|Trainer Yusuf]] ([[User talk:Trainer Yusuf|talk]]) 02:16, 25 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 02:31, 25 January 2017
Suggested Section
Note: This applies for all abilities. I think it would be a good idea if we had an extra section like: Out of Battle or something similar that is reworded. Then we could seperate the text instead of having a large block to read. Tesh 17:43, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Shadow Force
No Guard eliminates the immunity granted by Shadow Force. Diachronos 16:04, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Immunities
Does this ability eliminate immunities? - unsigned comment from Sk8torchic (talk • contribs)
OHKO
Does no Guard allow OHKO attacks to hit the opponent every time? Obviously there's currently no way to have this happen, but if a Machamp with no guard knew sheer cold, could it theoretically always hit the opponent?--Skaisdead 21:51, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
- Provided the other conditions are met (levels or speed or whatever), then I see no theoretical problem. —darklordtrom 21:59, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
In-Battle Effects post-Diamond/Pearl
This does not happen anymore in Platinum or HeartGold/SoulSilver.
What, exactly, doesn't happen anymore? Does No Guard always break through Protect/Detect, or does it never do so? Starscream 18:42, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
- No Guard moves will not bypass protect post-D/P, unless it's Feint
Glitch?
I'm not sure if it was intended or not, but in D/P in Battle Tower double battles, No Guard Earthquake will hit semi-invulnerable partners, but not levitating partners. I noticed it and would like someone to experiment with that for confirmation WeavilePwns 02:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Evasion Moves
Will a Pokemon with No Guard always hit a Pokemon who has used Double Team or Sand-Attack? - unsigned comment from Jdthebud (talk • contribs)
- Always hit means always hit this ability doesn't change accuracy it simply makes the moves always hit —Mada-sama (Talk to me!)— 09:55, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Trivia?
How about some trivia for this ability?
Here's my contribution: If No Guard is in effect, an odd paradoxical scenario emerges in which a Pokémon can use Dig to hit a Pokémon that is currently Flying. (Video proof here) Daltonlaffs 23:28, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Focus Punch?
Will this ability always ensure that Focus Punch will hit, even if the Pokemon was hit before using it? - unsigned comment from ipodboqi (talk • contribs)
- Don't know when exactly this question is from since it's unsigned, but: I would assume not. Being hit before Focus Punch doesn't make the move miss; it makes the user flinch. A Pokémon with No Guard can still flinch no matter what causes it. —AndyPKMN (talk) 21:09, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
No Guard check for OHKO moves
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/31517964/
According to 4chan, No Guard no longer effects OHKO moves, can anyone check this for Gen VII? Trainer Yusuf (talk) 02:16, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
