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Sorry to not be posting this in the forum, as I know you will tell me to do it, or even delete it right away without replying, but if you do, then thanks!
Sorry to not be posting this in the forum, as I know you will tell me to do it, or even delete it right away without replying, but if you do, then thanks!
So, what happens if you Trick an Exp. Share to a Trainer that will eventually want to have another battle with you, but next time to send out a Pomeg'd egg that knows Trick (by egg move, o'course), uses the move (first?) and then, whatever, it faints. When you carry around the egg, will it gain experience if you battle with another living and perfectly healthy Pokémon of yours? Better questions follow: Will the Exp. Share be passed to the target and stay held by it? Can (pomeg'd) eggs hold items if they Trick them? I have yet to try to use Covet, Thief or Trick with a pomeg'd egg. I'll try that and comment back here if it worked or not. If it didn't then, my first question wouldn't be worth the try anyways. Thanks, don't be rude (: [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 03:40, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
So, what happens if you Trick an Exp. Share to a Trainer that will eventually want to have another battle with you, but next time to send out a Pomeg'd egg that knows Trick (by egg move, o'course), uses the move (first?) and then, whatever, it faints. When you carry around the egg, will it gain experience if you battle with another living and perfectly healthy Pokémon of yours? Better questions follow: Will the Exp. Share be passed to the target and stay held by it? Can (pomeg'd) eggs hold items if they Trick them? I have yet to try to use Covet, Thief or Trick with a pomeg'd egg. I'll try that and comment back here if it worked or not. If it didn't then, my first question wouldn't be worth the try anyways. Thanks, don't be rude (: [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 03:40, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
== Red Orb/Blue Orb ==
Orbs aren't mega stones but I believe the holders of the orbs (or maybe just groudon and kyogre) are immune to trick as well. Deserves a mention in the article? {{unsigned|Knuckstrike}} [1/3/15]
== TR vs TM ==
Why does the TR section show older generations? There's no TRs in older gens, and no Trick TM in older gens. -[[User:Sandrew26|Sandrew26]] ([[User talk:Sandrew26|talk]]) 20:08, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
:It's a generic template that's used for HMs, TMs, and TRs. It always shows every generation in which the move existed, even if it wasn't a machine move in some of those generations. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 00:16, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
== Emerald and XD ==
* While it was confirmed that {{m|Thief}} does not permanently steal items in XD (and also Colosseum), is this true for Trick as well? This is so we can confirm if e.g. the two [[Light Ball]]s held by both of [[Eagun]]'s {{p|Pikachu}} in the post-game battle at the [[Pokémon HQ Lab]] can be stolen or not.
* It was confirmed that Trick always fails in the [[Trainer Tower]] in {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}, but does it fail in {{v2|Emerald}}'s [[Trainer Hill]] as well?
--'''''[[User:C.Ezra.M|<font color="turquoise">C.Ezra.M</font>]]'''''<sub>[[User talk:C.Ezra.M|<font color="lime">something to say?</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/C.Ezra.M|<font color="orange">My work documentation</font>]]</sub> 18:15, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
:Trick fails if used in Trainer Hill, even if targeting an ally Pokémon. I just tested it myself, what in the article needs changing (if anything) to reflect this information? --[[User:Lavince|Lavince  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯]] ([[User talk:Lavince|talk]]) 16:56, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
::I tried it [[Special:Diff/3656956|this way]], thanks. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:24, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
== Trick Failed When Used by Opponent in Regular Battle? ==
I was fighting Clown Lee in Platinum and his Alakazam used Trick on my Claydol holding a Lucky Egg, but it failed. While I'm thankful I didn't lose my Lucky Egg, I'm confused as to why it failed. Does it always just fail if used by an opponent in a normal battle? {{unsigned|Booster137}}
:I just tested it again, and it once again failed, this time attempting to use Trick against my Empoleon with an Amulet Coin. Any idea what's happening here? [[User:Booster137|Booster137]] ([[User talk:Booster137|talk]]) 01:25, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
::Well, disregarding any special conditions that the article may currently lack, it's still possible for the move to fail due to accuracy and evasion. Could that be what happened? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 11:20, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
:::Unfortunately no, Trick has 100% accuracy, and no moves were used in the fight to raise evasion or lower accuracy either battle, and neither their Alakazam nor my Claydol or Empoleon have any abilities that would affect the move hitting either. I looked around some more, and another website documenting moves seems to believe that in Gens 3 and 4, the move also fails if used by an opponent in a trainer battle as well. [[User:Booster137|Booster137]] ([[User talk:Booster137|talk]]) 16:32, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
== Incorrect Link ==
Under the "Generations III and IV" section at the very bottom, for the Trick Mail bug hyperlink, it improperly links to the page "List of glitches (Generation III)" instead of "List of battle glitches (Generation III)" (where the Trick Mail bug is under "Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire (all languages)"). --[[User:Beaniebabs|Beaniebabs]] ([[User talk:Beaniebabs|talk]]) 18:34, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 10:09, 26 May 2024

Is there any difference between the success rate of getting the enemy item compared to the Thief_(move)? ----Blablubbb 03:58, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. This happens 100%.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 04:15, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Doesn't even need to have its own item! TTEchidna 06:41, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Thief happens 100% of the time, too, L o v e. Just saying.
ShinjiLover 21:08, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
he(r) name is Urutapu...--The Kkllnnator サンタクロース 21:09, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


Trick fails if used by Transformed Ditto?

The Trick should be 100% if at least one pokémon have any item. But. I'am catching Dittos in english Pearl using Smeargle knowing Trick. Sometimes the Ditto (after Transforming) use the move Trick, but they always fails, altrought they have items themselves (I checked after catching them) ----Glurak 05:34, 13 Jan 2009 (UTC)

Trick Item Return?

If I get tricked or use in the wild, and I get the wild Pokémon's item, and they get mine, if they/I die/I/they run, do I get my item back? And if I catch them do they have my original and they have mine or returned? Machamp ion 19:40, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Well I remember flinging my soothe bell at a wild pokemon on accident and did not get it back. I would assume the principle is the same and your item would not come back to you. Dexington 20:55, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Sticky Hold

What if the user has Sticky Hold? and what if the one with Sticky Hold doesn't have its own held item? Bbbbbbbbba 09:56, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

I'd guess that it would fail if the Pokémon with Sticky Hold had an Item, but would succeed if it didn't, since it only prevents it from having an item stolen. I would also imagine that if you were trying to steal a wild Grimer's Nugget with a Keckleon which had used Skill Swap that it would still work, provided Keckleon didn't have an item. Werdnae (talk) 10:10, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Level up wrong for Kadabra

In Generation IV, Kadabra doesn't learn Trick at 43, but at 46. Maybe this is just in HeartGold/SoulSilver though. Amrykid 14:31, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

According to everywhere else I looked it's definitely level 46 for all gen IV, not just HGSS. I've changed the page. Werdnae (talk) 20:35, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Really long Pomeg Egg trick... Trick?

Sorry to not be posting this in the forum, as I know you will tell me to do it, or even delete it right away without replying, but if you do, then thanks! So, what happens if you Trick an Exp. Share to a Trainer that will eventually want to have another battle with you, but next time to send out a Pomeg'd egg that knows Trick (by egg move, o'course), uses the move (first?) and then, whatever, it faints. When you carry around the egg, will it gain experience if you battle with another living and perfectly healthy Pokémon of yours? Better questions follow: Will the Exp. Share be passed to the target and stay held by it? Can (pomeg'd) eggs hold items if they Trick them? I have yet to try to use Covet, Thief or Trick with a pomeg'd egg. I'll try that and comment back here if it worked or not. If it didn't then, my first question wouldn't be worth the try anyways. Thanks, don't be rude (: YukitoOoO 03:40, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

Red Orb/Blue Orb

Orbs aren't mega stones but I believe the holders of the orbs (or maybe just groudon and kyogre) are immune to trick as well. Deserves a mention in the article? - unsigned comment from Knuckstrike (talkcontribs) [1/3/15]

TR vs TM

Why does the TR section show older generations? There's no TRs in older gens, and no Trick TM in older gens. -Sandrew26 (talk) 20:08, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

It's a generic template that's used for HMs, TMs, and TRs. It always shows every generation in which the move existed, even if it wasn't a machine move in some of those generations. --SnorlaxMonster 00:16, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Emerald and XD

--C.Ezra.Msomething to say? · My work documentation 18:15, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Trick fails if used in Trainer Hill, even if targeting an ally Pokémon. I just tested it myself, what in the article needs changing (if anything) to reflect this information? --Lavince ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (talk) 16:56, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
I tried it this way, thanks. Nescientist (talk) 16:24, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Trick Failed When Used by Opponent in Regular Battle?

I was fighting Clown Lee in Platinum and his Alakazam used Trick on my Claydol holding a Lucky Egg, but it failed. While I'm thankful I didn't lose my Lucky Egg, I'm confused as to why it failed. Does it always just fail if used by an opponent in a normal battle? - unsigned comment from Booster137 (talkcontribs)

I just tested it again, and it once again failed, this time attempting to use Trick against my Empoleon with an Amulet Coin. Any idea what's happening here? Booster137 (talk) 01:25, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
Well, disregarding any special conditions that the article may currently lack, it's still possible for the move to fail due to accuracy and evasion. Could that be what happened? Nescientist (talk) 11:20, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
Unfortunately no, Trick has 100% accuracy, and no moves were used in the fight to raise evasion or lower accuracy either battle, and neither their Alakazam nor my Claydol or Empoleon have any abilities that would affect the move hitting either. I looked around some more, and another website documenting moves seems to believe that in Gens 3 and 4, the move also fails if used by an opponent in a trainer battle as well. Booster137 (talk) 16:32, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect Link

Under the "Generations III and IV" section at the very bottom, for the Trick Mail bug hyperlink, it improperly links to the page "List of glitches (Generation III)" instead of "List of battle glitches (Generation III)" (where the Trick Mail bug is under "Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire (all languages)"). --Beaniebabs (talk) 18:34, 6 November 2023 (UTC)