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==Great Marsh and fainted==
Does Synchronize's effect on the natures of wild Pokémon apply in the Great Marsh or if the Pokémon with Synchronize is fainted? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 02:04, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Does Synchronize's effect on the natures of wild Pokémon apply in the Great Marsh or if the Pokémon with Synchronize is fainted? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<font color="black"><small>S</small><sup>h</sup><small>i</small><sub>n</sub><small>y</small> <sup>N</sup><small>o</small><sub>c</sub><small>t</small><sup>o</sup><small>w</small><sub>l</sub></font>]] 02:04, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:Since other natures apply when the Pokémon's first but fainted, I'd say yes. Also, Great Marsh, yes too. Just has to be first in line, not sent out. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:24, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
:Since other natures apply when the Pokémon's first but fainted, I'd say yes. Also, Great Marsh, yes too. Just has to be first in line, not sent out. '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#FF0000">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:24, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Apparently Synchronize will only pass on a NORMAL Poison effect if the Pokémon is Badly Poisoned by Toxic or Poison Fang. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Apparently Synchronize will only pass on a NORMAL Poison effect if the Pokémon is Badly Poisoned by Toxic or Poison Fang. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


==Fainted==
Does Synchronize work if the poké is dead but at the front of the party? <small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Camzoman}} ([[User talk:Camzoman|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Camzoman|contribs]]) ''</small>
Does Synchronize work if the poké is dead but at the front of the party? <small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Camzoman}} ([[User talk:Camzoman|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Camzoman|contribs]]) ''</small>
:No it doesn't. Also, the correct term is ''fainted'' and not dead. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 13:56, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
:No it doesn't. Also, the correct term is ''fainted'' and not dead. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 13:56, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
::Wait, this contradicts other info right on this talk page. I think I'll check a little later. I have 50 of nearly every ball on my Diamind, along with a lot of Sychronizers, so I should be able to get a good sample size. Would 250 non synched, 250 synched, and 250 with a fainted syncher be good? [[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] 17:56, 26 August 2010 (UTC)   
::Wait, this contradicts other info right on this talk page. I think I'll check a little later. I have 50 of nearly every ball on my Diamind, along with a lot of Sychronizers, so I should be able to get a good sample size. Would 250 non synched, 250 synched, and 250 with a fainted syncher be good? [[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] 17:56, 26 August 2010 (UTC)   


==Not working==
I'm not entirely sure that this is correct... Although there may be mitigating circumstances that I'm not aware of. In my Platinum gamee I've been trying to capture a female Scyther with an Adamant nature so that I can breed an adamant technician, after catching five Scyther while having an Adamant Kirlia with Synchronize leading my party, none of them have had an adamant nature. Although, I realize that the Syncronize ability only infers a 50% probability to encountering a Pokémon with the same nature and it is more than possible to flip a coin to the same side five times in a row... But it seemed strange to me. Does anyone have any suggestions as to why this might be happening? If not I guess I'll just keep trying and I'll gather more data on the situation as I go... --[[User:Ender Phoenix|Ender Phoenix]] 01:44, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm not entirely sure that this is correct... Although there may be mitigating circumstances that I'm not aware of. In my Platinum gamee I've been trying to capture a female Scyther with an Adamant nature so that I can breed an adamant technician, after catching five Scyther while having an Adamant Kirlia with Synchronize leading my party, none of them have had an adamant nature. Although, I realize that the Syncronize ability only infers a 50% probability to encountering a Pokémon with the same nature and it is more than possible to flip a coin to the same side five times in a row... But it seemed strange to me. Does anyone have any suggestions as to why this might be happening? If not I guess I'll just keep trying and I'll gather more data on the situation as I go... --[[User:Ender Phoenix|Ender Phoenix]] 01:44, 27 December 2009 (UTC)


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I'm trying to write something trivial, but look at the section.
I'm trying to write something trivial, but look at the section.
None was made before me, so I didn't delete anything, but can you give me some help? [[User:VictoryStar|VictoryStar]] 22:25, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
None was made before me, so I didn't delete anything, but can you give me some help? [[User:VictoryStar|VictoryStar]] 22:25, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
== Twistedspoon ==
I think it should be mentioned that if a Pokémon with Synchronize ability is holding the item Twistedspoon, its secondary effect gets inverted. So if you have a Modest Alakazam (-Attack, +Sp.Attack), and give it a Twistedspoon, you'll mostly get Adamant Pokémon (-Sp.Attack, +Attack). [[User:Krisi|Krisi]] ([[User talk:Krisi|talk]]) 17:33, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
*Okay, I just read a topic on this on GameFAQs, and I just tested it out, and didn't really work for me... [[User:Krisi|Krisi]] ([[User talk:Krisi|talk]]) 06:08, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
== Double Synchronize ==
So I was watching some [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhbBAGfCXXg&t=12m37s Metronome battles with Mew], and few times one of the Mew inflicted status on the other one, which activated the hit Mew's Synchronize, which in turn activated the Synchronize of Mew that afflicted the status (though it did nothing, since it targeted the Mew that Sychronized ailment on it). However, when I tried that in G3 on wild Abra, only the text stating that Abra's Synchronize activated has appeared. Can someone check G4 and G5 on this matter? [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 12:00, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
== ORAS Event Synchronizing ==
Are we sure we can synchronize Event natures? Either I'm having terrible luck, or we can't. Event in question is the UK GAME Darkrai. {{unsigned|Golui}}
:It doesn't say anything about {{pkmn2|event}}s, only in-game {{pkmn2|gift}}s. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 13:00, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
== Kecleon ==
It's mentioned that, in Emerald, Synchronize has no effect on stationary Pokémon like "Regirock or Rayquaza". I'd be led to believe that this primarily affects legendaries only, but does it affect the invisible Kecleon around the region? And if so, should this be mentioned in the article to emphasize that it's not exclusive to legendary Pokémon?
The entry earlier on the page regarding "Method 1 generation" makes me think that it doesn't affect the invisible Kecleon. --[[User:Linneus|Linneus]] ([[User talk:Linneus|talk]]) 09:32, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
== S.O.S. Battles ==
If a Pokemon with synchronize is leading the party, and an SOS battle initiates, do all ally Pokemon called also have a 50% chance of having the same nature? {{unsigned|Yater31|17:07, 14 January 2017‎}}
:I believe it's only if a Pokémon with Synchronize is currently the active Pokémon when the ally Pokémon is called, but I could be wrong.
:Also, in the future, if you forget to sign a post, please use the <nowiki>{{unsigned|name|time}} template--going back and signing it afterward with ~~~~</nowiki> causes the timestamp to be wrong. [[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 17:16, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
==Probability==
In my Pokemon Omega Ruby I catched 90 pokemons with wanted nature out of 208 pokemons.
Let's denote 90/208 = 43.27% as p. If Synchronize forces specific nature with probability of p<sub>0</sub> and uniformly random nature in other case then p<sub>0</sub> = (25 * p - 1) / 24 ≈ 40.9%
If p<sub>0</sub> is really equal to 50%, then the probability that out of 208 cases I will get no more than 90 successes is less than 1%. So may be 40%, not 50%? {{unsigned|Undef}}
== Hidden Grottos ==
Does Synchronize work on hidden grotto mons or am I just really unlucky? I’ve been trying to get a specific nature on this Pokémon for a while and it’s only had it once in 40+ attempts. [[User:PanPan 23|PanPan 23]] ([[User talk:PanPan 23|talk]]) 17:55, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

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Great Marsh and fainted

Does Synchronize's effect on the natures of wild Pokémon apply in the Great Marsh or if the Pokémon with Synchronize is fainted? --Shiny Noctowl 02:04, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Since other natures apply when the Pokémon's first but fainted, I'd say yes. Also, Great Marsh, yes too. Just has to be first in line, not sent out. TTEchidna 02:24, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Apparently Synchronize will only pass on a NORMAL Poison effect if the Pokémon is Badly Poisoned by Toxic or Poison Fang. Diachronos 16:41, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Fainted

Does Synchronize work if the poké is dead but at the front of the party? - unsigned comment from Camzoman (talkcontribs)

No it doesn't. Also, the correct term is fainted and not dead. Turtwig A (talk | contribs) 13:56, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Wait, this contradicts other info right on this talk page. I think I'll check a little later. I have 50 of nearly every ball on my Diamind, along with a lot of Sychronizers, so I should be able to get a good sample size. Would 250 non synched, 250 synched, and 250 with a fainted syncher be good? Shadowater 17:56, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Not working

I'm not entirely sure that this is correct... Although there may be mitigating circumstances that I'm not aware of. In my Platinum gamee I've been trying to capture a female Scyther with an Adamant nature so that I can breed an adamant technician, after catching five Scyther while having an Adamant Kirlia with Synchronize leading my party, none of them have had an adamant nature. Although, I realize that the Syncronize ability only infers a 50% probability to encountering a Pokémon with the same nature and it is more than possible to flip a coin to the same side five times in a row... But it seemed strange to me. Does anyone have any suggestions as to why this might be happening? If not I guess I'll just keep trying and I'll gather more data on the situation as I go... --Ender Phoenix 01:44, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

RNG

"However, this does not apply to any Pokémon created with Method 1 of the random number generator."

That makes no sense out of context. It should be wikilinked to the appropriate article, but we don't seem to HAVE an appropriate article - the psuedorandom number generator article mentions nothing about any "method 1". Help? Yamikuronue 00:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

It says right there in the article. "This includes Emerald's 'one-off' Pokémon such as legendaries, Castform and Beldum as well as Diamond, Pearl and Platinum's roaming legendaries and the non-legendary one-offs such as Bebe's Eevee and the Porygon in Veilstone City." ▫▪Ťïňắ 00:38, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

The wording still remains confusing and should likely be fixed. It claims that it includes those pokemon, but does not give a general outlook of the pokemon that are in that list, it does not say all legendaries, it simply says the list includes those. It could be better worded and the entire "Method 1 of the random number generator" bit should either be removed or the psuedorandom number generator article should include information on these methods. Oxylepy 18:50, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Badly Poison

Does it now stop passing bad poison altogether, or does it pass it as bad poison now? TorchicBlaziken (talkedits) 18:01, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Inverse effect with twisted spoon

Can someone comprobe this? http://fypblog.com/post/4942918974/interesting-pokemon-fact#disqus_thread It says that if a pokemon have synchronize and twisted spoon is 50% chance of encounter a pokémon with the opposite nature. Sorry for my english--Virus bass 02:07, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Drifloon/Lapras

Does Synchronize work on the Drifloon at Valley Windworks and the Lapras at Union Cave? PkmnChmp5 04:26, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Like any other wild Pokémon, yes. MetalMetroid997 07:19, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit help

I'm trying to write something trivial, but look at the section. None was made before me, so I didn't delete anything, but can you give me some help? VictoryStar 22:25, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Twistedspoon

I think it should be mentioned that if a Pokémon with Synchronize ability is holding the item Twistedspoon, its secondary effect gets inverted. So if you have a Modest Alakazam (-Attack, +Sp.Attack), and give it a Twistedspoon, you'll mostly get Adamant Pokémon (-Sp.Attack, +Attack). Krisi (talk) 17:33, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

  • Okay, I just read a topic on this on GameFAQs, and I just tested it out, and didn't really work for me... Krisi (talk) 06:08, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Double Synchronize

So I was watching some Metronome battles with Mew, and few times one of the Mew inflicted status on the other one, which activated the hit Mew's Synchronize, which in turn activated the Synchronize of Mew that afflicted the status (though it did nothing, since it targeted the Mew that Sychronized ailment on it). However, when I tried that in G3 on wild Abra, only the text stating that Abra's Synchronize activated has appeared. Can someone check G4 and G5 on this matter? Eridanus (talk) 12:00, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

ORAS Event Synchronizing

Are we sure we can synchronize Event natures? Either I'm having terrible luck, or we can't. Event in question is the UK GAME Darkrai. - unsigned comment from Golui (talkcontribs)

It doesn't say anything about events, only in-game gifts. --Abcboy (talk) 13:00, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Kecleon

It's mentioned that, in Emerald, Synchronize has no effect on stationary Pokémon like "Regirock or Rayquaza". I'd be led to believe that this primarily affects legendaries only, but does it affect the invisible Kecleon around the region? And if so, should this be mentioned in the article to emphasize that it's not exclusive to legendary Pokémon? The entry earlier on the page regarding "Method 1 generation" makes me think that it doesn't affect the invisible Kecleon. --Linneus (talk) 09:32, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

S.O.S. Battles

If a Pokemon with synchronize is leading the party, and an SOS battle initiates, do all ally Pokemon called also have a 50% chance of having the same nature? - unsigned comment from Yater31 (talkcontribs) 17:07, 14 January 2017‎

I believe it's only if a Pokémon with Synchronize is currently the active Pokémon when the ally Pokémon is called, but I could be wrong.
Also, in the future, if you forget to sign a post, please use the {{unsigned|name|time}} template--going back and signing it afterward with ~~~~ causes the timestamp to be wrong. Xolroc (talk) 17:16, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Probability

In my Pokemon Omega Ruby I catched 90 pokemons with wanted nature out of 208 pokemons. Let's denote 90/208 = 43.27% as p. If Synchronize forces specific nature with probability of p0 and uniformly random nature in other case then p0 = (25 * p - 1) / 24 ≈ 40.9% If p0 is really equal to 50%, then the probability that out of 208 cases I will get no more than 90 successes is less than 1%. So may be 40%, not 50%? - unsigned comment from Undef (talkcontribs)

Hidden Grottos

Does Synchronize work on hidden grotto mons or am I just really unlucky? I’ve been trying to get a specific nature on this Pokémon for a while and it’s only had it once in 40+ attempts. PanPan 23 (talk) 17:55, 29 July 2022 (UTC)